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Nagelfar
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Fused tropane-derivatives as neurotransmitter reuptake inhibitors US PATENT 5998405 A
^the last one has picomolar affinity for SERT, the others have 1.6 & 2.3, respectively (cf. cocaine's 155)
^many of these have picomolar affinity at DAT, NET *and* SERT
"Receptor binding profiles and quantitative structure–affinity relationships of some 5-substituted-N,N-diallyltryptamines"
Nicholas V. Cozzia, b, Paul F. Dale
Bioorganic & Medicinal Chemistry Letters
Volume 26, Issue 3, 1 February 2016, Pages 959–964
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960894X1530367X ($paying$ article) enjoy the read!Nagelfar
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I love my cubism:
protonate it, and be able to front and back bridge the tropane from the same nitrogen starting point (don't have to split off from one methylene unit away and possibly skew the optimum factors constraining the nitrogen)
i.e. (Scheel-Krüger et al. U.S. Patent 5,998,405 compound #1 + S. Singh's cocaine antagonist paper's compound # 131a)
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Nagelfar
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Raihiar
Greenlighter
"Receptor binding profiles and quantitative structure–affinity relationships of some 5-substituted-N,N-diallyltryptamines"
Nicholas V. Cozzia, b, Paul F. Dale
Bioorganic & Medicinal Chemistry Letters
Volume 26, Issue 3, 1 February 2016, Pages 959–964
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960894X1530367X ($paying$ article) enjoy the read!
oh yaaaaay!
I LOVE you for this since i've been a huge fan of 5-meo-dalt (when it was still quasi-legal and relatively easly acquired here
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binged on it - the only chemical i've ever vaped and generally had an amazing time with it, and all that in spite of the fact that many 'normal' psychedelics seem to overwhelm me and turn bad eventually.
maybe some promising ones hit the market, and i might try my luck once again ![]()
And since i dont have anything picture-wise to show: behold the 1-minute-paint cyclomethane
Nagelfar
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phenmetrazine inspired.
(You know its unnatural, when the structure is small, and it's name gets rendered like: 6-phenyl-1λ⁶,2λ⁶-dithia-4-azacyclohexa-1(6),2,4-trien-1-yne ;-j )
(3-phenylpyridine, there we go... Normalcy.)
And because what's a contribution of mine if there isn't a cocaine derivative in it?:
Dresden
Bluelighter
MEPHEDRONE
and
MXE.
aPVP would have made the cut, except other stimulants work just as well as it and therefore it represented no real improvement over what was already available.
WILL ALL THE CHEMISTS GO BACK TO FLOODING THE MARKET WITH MDMA LIKE IT IS FLOODED WITH METH RIGHT NOW; LET'S KEEP THE METH TOO! NOBODY WANTS RCS ANYMORE
MDMA
On the subject of meth (my favorite), I just want to thank God that that the subversive Mexican cartels are giving America a middle finger by flooding our street markets with good meth. WAKE UP PEOPLE. (literally)
METHAMPHETAMINE
And Nagelfar, I'm not trying to be rude, but that thing you drew right there is absurd to the point of fatuity from a chemical or pharmacological viewpoint and looks like an impossible train wreck.aced126
Bluelighter
Here are a few rigidified molecules which would help to uncover the binding roles of the alkyl esters in the methylphenidate series:
First, we consider this rigidified molecule:
Then:
Acetal hydrolysis is obviously a concern with the second molecule (the first one also has N-C-O which could act like an acetal), however this shouldn't be a problem if evaluated in vitro. The more potent molecule should suggest to which angle the alkyl group in methylphenidate is oriented.
The following molecule is simply rigidified methylphenidate but the pyridine ring is flipped (I doubt this compound would act effectively because I don't think the nitrogen is in the right place, but just to confirm anyway):
Now, look at some compounds with the ester switched for an amide. The non-basic nitrogen can't really function as a H-bond acceptor like the oxygen (amide double bond character). The carbonyl oxygen is now a better H-bond acceptor though, so we can see where the H-bond acceptor regions are:
Flipped amide:
Once the optimal position for the carbonyl oxygen and alkyl ester has been determined, the ester can be changed to a ketone derivative, and the alkyl chain can be expanded:
These molecules corresponds to ethylphenidate, depending on where the alkyl chain seems to fit best (which would be determined from the above molecules)
I understand the first of these molecules would result in the basic nitrogen possibly being quite hindered from binding to its residue.
The next one corresponds to isopropylphenidate, and they also block the labile carbon from metabolism:
Finally one to push the possible limits of this pocket:
Nagelfar
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The MPH analogs too, don't forget. I did ethylphenidate, it was viable.
Compliment accepted.
phenmetrazine inspired.
(You know its unnatural, when the structure is small, and it's name gets rendered like: 6-phenyl-1λ⁶,2λ⁶-dithia-4-azacyclohexa-1(6),2,4-trien-1-yne ;-j )
(3-phenylpyridine, there we go... Normalcy.)
And because what's a contribution of mine if there isn't a cocaine derivative in it?:
what do you call that last tropane?.. does it smell??? not sure about those
But I like pyridines
about twice as potent as cocaine as DAT reuptake inhibitor.. pure and clean DRI no SERT or NET.. now add a Nitrogen like this
20x Cocaine (my bet!) nice and clean DRI nice logP .. one more N like this:
200x cocaine? (my bet) but logP start becoming shitty (1.8 still decent..)
Or change 1 phenyl with an indole like this:
nice clogP= 3.3 too bulky for DAT but SERT might like it.. now append a dimethylaminoethyl like this ..et voila
1DP-DMT ("Fat Mao"
isn't thiophene isostere closer to naphthalene than indole? 2-naphthyl isopropyl amine is empathogen with binding profile very much similar to MDMAs (but 10x more potent).