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i'm not going to lie -- deciphering your posts is quite confusing. that is no fault of mine, though.

i already have pointed out several of your contradictions to you. i could point out more, but if your past responses are any indicator of what your future responses will be, you will just backpedal and say you meant something other than what you actually said.

like i said, though, shaggy -- i admire your zeal and drive. i really think you need to go a lot slower, though. you are approaching dangerous territory if you are talking about starting up your own lab within a few months.

part of me thinks that you might just be an internet troll. that's how nonsensical you are being, dude.
 
thenightwatch said:
i'm not going to lie -- deciphering your posts is quite confusing. that is no fault of mine, though.

i already have pointed out several of your contradictions to you. i could point out more, but if your past responses are any indicator of what your future responses will be, you will just backpedal and say you meant something other than what you actually said.

like i said, though, shaggy -- i admire your zeal and drive. i really think you need to go a lot slower, though. you are approaching dangerous territory if you are talking about starting up your own lab within a few months.

part of me thinks that you might just be an internet troll. that's how nonsensical you are being, dude.
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Honestly, I have had the thought that you are just trolling too.

I am not a troll, people may say that, but again I am just under-educated and under-furnished. I know a LOT from reading textbook after textbook, but I DO NOT claim to know everything and try to work with people. But people would rather see you have something completed than be part of getting there and reap the benefits of being involved. It is a pattern that has cycled over and over nice I joined the interneting community.

I may seem like a troll, but only because I am broke and full of ideas and thoughts that cost money.

I really think you are over expecting me. When I say "Lab" I mean ghetto lab. We will be making Chloroscone, and an Isopropyl form. Other than that, there are no plans for anything yet (some more may pop up in the next few weeks, but nothing drastic). So whatever idea of a lab is in your head, please re-equate it.
 
i think you are overexpecting of yourself. i'm done, though -- you obviously are beyond reason. enjoy blowing up your neighborhood mixing volatile chemicals together.
 
thenightwatch said:
i think you are overexpecting of yourself. i'm done, though -- you obviously are beyond reason. enjoy blowing up your neighborhood mixing volatile chemicals together.
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Lol, we will be getting a fume hood and other safety materials, so we probably won't blow up the neighborhood with our Isopropyl alcohol and Chloroform, but thank you for your concern.
 
i said i was done, but damn it...



you can afford a fume hood but you can't afford $400 to take a Chemistry 101 class at your local community college? you are bonkers.
 
thenightwatch said:
i said i was done, but damn it...



you can afford a fume hood but you can't afford $400 to take a Chemistry 101 class at your local community college? you are bonkers.
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My parents suck a little. They want to see money before they spend money. Opening a Perfume production "center" would make more money than me sitting in a classroom. Plus YouTube videos of this will make money as well.

So they have money for this, but have not ever had money for school.
 
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why don't you get a job? are you here illegally?
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Basically.

I have a misdemeanor (they can't cross state lines for it) warrant in Texas for Marijuana possession. So that shows up on my record for any job as an open warrant, plus I don't have money which perpetuates the problem. If I were in my home town it would be no problem, I would just have a friend help me get a job. But I live in a state where no one knows who I am (and weed is legal, so they can't wrap their heads around a weed charge for someone that did nothing), and therefor no one trusts me like that. And since I have no money, I can't go hang out anywhere and get to know anybody that can offer me a job.

So, I am stuck earning Adsense money and Bitcoins. Which are actually two amazing programs once you are forced to figure out what they are.
 
so you are making money? i thought you were broke?

btw the powers that be pay attention when people order chemistry supplies like fume hoods and reagents. i wouldn't be surprised if you get an unfriendly knock on the door if you go through with this plan of yours.
 
thenightwatch said:
so you are making money? i thought you were broke?

btw the powers that be pay attention when people order chemistry supplies like fume hoods and reagents. i wouldn't be surprised if you get an unfriendly knock on the door if you go through with this plan of yours.
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I am broke. I eat most of my money, the rest goes to working towards creating a stable USD income online (which is not stable yet).

I am sure they are already looking at me for the lists I make of alkaloids and stuff. But my assumption is that they can see that I am not dangerous, I am not stockpiling weapons or ammo, I am hopeful for the future, and no one listens to me. So I am not a threat.

I am sure they watch me, but more in wonder than in a sense of security probably. Like, I sent a tweet to the president asking if the Situation Room's (a private line in the white house for emergency stuff) phone number was the same, then I tweeted the number at him (I found it online in highschool and we used to call it for fun and say we had cats in a tree and stuff, so I know it is real), and he didn't reply. And I have been sending tweets to various politicians and political pundits.

But I actually kinda HOPE they come knock on our door, we won't be doing anything illegal. And I want to talk to someone in the DEA about how to get a DEA license.
 
i think your definition of dangerous and their definition of dangerous are two totally different things. someone who obviously has next to no knowledge about synthesis is talking about ordering volatile chemicals and doing experimental reactions with them. they're going to consider that dangerous, dude. and i'm pretty sure they'll just laugh in your face if they come knocking on your door with a warrant and you start asking them about how to get a license to work with scheduled/controlled chemicals.

i don't mean this as an insult at all, so please don't take it as one -- do you realize how delusional you're being? you're a fugitive with barely any educational background trying to scrape together a digital income, and you think that you'll be able to convince the DEA to give you a license and convince Yale to accept you as a student? seriously?

you remind me of my IRL friend Brandon. he wouldn't shut up one night about how he could convince NASA to accept him as an astronaut if he just had a chance to talk to them. so the morning came, and i found a phone number for NASA. he gave them this huge speech about "why can't a guy, if he's willing to give the shirt off his back for his country, go to space if he wants to?" the person on the phone was straight up laughing at him, but he was so manic and delusional that he thought he actually was being convincing.

Brandon is now getting disability checks for "debilitating Bipolar disorder," and he is court ordered to take his antipsychotics or be forced to go back into a mental institution.
 
you need to get your ducks in a row, man -- take care of that warrant. its not going to go away if you ignore it, and you will never be able to make anything worthwhile of your life if you don't deal with it.
 
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i think your definition of dangerous and their definition of dangerous are two totally different things. someone who obviously has next to no knowledge about synthesis is talking about ordering volatile chemicals and doing experimental reactions with them. they're going to consider that dangerous, dude. and i'm pretty sure they'll just laugh in your face if they come knocking on your door with a warrant and you start asking them about how to get a license to work with scheduled/controlled chemicals.

i don't mean this as an insult at all, so please don't take it as one -- do you realize how delusional you're being? you're a fugitive with barely any educational background trying to scrape together a digital income, and you think that you'll be able to convince the DEA to give you a license and convince Yale to accept you as a student? seriously?

you remind me of my IRL friend Brandon. he wouldn't shut up one night about how he could convince NASA to accept him as an astronaut if he just had a chance to talk to them. so the morning came, and i found a phone number for NASA. he gave them this huge speech about "why can't a guy, if he's willing to give the shirt off his back for his country, go to space if he wants to?" the person on the phone was straight up laughing at him, but he was so manic and delusional that he thought he actually was being convincing.

Brandon is now getting disability checks for "debilitating Bipolar disorder," and he is court ordered to take his antipsychotics or be forced to go back into a mental institution.
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Woah woah woah, slow down. Again, you are looking at this like I am jumping into everything.

When we start a lab, and make Chloroscone and the Isopropyl form and any other simple form we can make (Many of which would just be two natural oils bonded together), our next step will not be to start doing more chemistry. At that point we just start selling our designer smells.

If the DEA comes, I am not going to try to "convince them to give me a DEA licence" I will simply ask how that works, and let them know about my interest in Shulgin, who they have probably heard of and most people haven't. So that could lead to some good discussion.

Again, you are not at all trying to see where I am coming from and automatically jump to Brandon, which is not a case like mine at all.

And I do not plan on living in America forever, or even very long. I have made that clear to just about everyone on the internet, it just has not come up here.

thenightwatch said:
you need to get your ducks in a row, man -- take care of that warrant. its not going to go away if you ignore it, and you will never be able to make anything worthwhile of your life if you don't deal with it.
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I don't plan on breaking the law again, and after 7 years it goes away. It's been 4.
 
Reading a few textbooks does not a qualified chemist make.

I really think you are over expecting me. When I say "Lab" I mean ghetto lab. We will be making Chloroscone, and an Isopropyl form. Other than that, there are no plans for anything yet (some more may pop up in the next few weeks, but nothing drastic). So whatever idea of a lab is in your head, please re-equate it.
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Yeah, have fun making money selling uncharacterised "perfumes". Especially when you can't provide data on purity, toxicity, etc. Doubly so when there's a fucking trichloro group on them, which is generally Not Good For Cells. If you can't afford to live on your own you're not going to get rich quick making "novel designer perfumes" when you have no fucking idea what you're doing at all.

Like, I sent a tweet to the president asking if the Situation Room's (a private line in the white house for emergency stuff) phone number was the same, then I tweeted the number at him (I found it online in highschool and we used to call it for fun and say we had cats in a tree and stuff, so I know it is real), and he didn't reply.
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Words fail me.

I will simply ask how that works, and let them know about my interest in Shulgin, who they have probably heard of and most people haven't. So that could lead to some good discussion.
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Yeah, somehow, I doubt much good discussion is going to come from telling DEA agents you're interested in this Shulgin guy. Expect a warrant for illicit posession of a category B precursor, acetone....

Less discussion of perfumery and more of drugs plz.
 
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ShaggyFin said:
Woah woah woah, slow down. Again, you are looking at this like I am jumping into everything.
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you ARE jumping into everything.

ShaggyFin said:
If the DEA comes, I am not going to try to "convince them to give me a DEA licence" I will simply ask how that works, and let them know about my interest in Shulgin, who they have probably heard of and most people haven't. So that could lead to some good discussion.
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"oh hey, one of my idols is a man who is considered an enemy of the DEA. wanna chat about it?"

/facepalm.
 
sekio said:
Reading a few textbooks does not a qualified chemist make.
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I never said it did, I literally said I am not a chemist and that I would need help.


sekio said:
Yeah, have fun making money selling uncharacterised "perfumes". Especially when you can't provide data on purity, toxicity, etc. Doubly so when there's a fucking trichloro group on them, which is generally Not Good For Cells.
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That is the FIRST thing I thought of, I can start with a plain Damascone and figure out how to attach Myrcene, or Ethyl Formate, or Butyl Acetate or whatever. I just don't know how yet, in a week or so I will be drawing up all kinds of new (simple) compounds that don't have a Chloroform.




sekio said:
Yeah, somehow, I doubt much good discussion is going to come from telling DEA agents you're interested in this Shulgin guy. Expect a warrant for illicit posession of a category B precursor, acetone....
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I don't see why not, he has basically shaped our modern laws with his categorizations. So they probably are interested in him.

And if they take me to court for acetone I don't even need a lawyer,
Ab abusu ad usum non valet consequentia
A conclusion as to the use of a thing because of its abuse is invalid

Plus I won't be using acetone, Damascone has the same properties.
 
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