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Don't want to dismiss the entire concept right off the bat, but trying to pull off a hybrid pharmacophore often doesn't really work out. It's like trying to achieve both things at the same time but failing at both because the requirements are not met because of the 'concessions'.

Of course a given neurotransmitter system will be more akin to some than others, as we know for example there isn't such a huge difference between the catecholamines DA and NE so there is much more pharmacophore overlap so to speak.

Hybridizing 2C-D and (s)unifiram is much much more of a stretch. The SAR foundation of AMPAkines seems a lot more obscure to me and the 2C-D group is bound pretty randomly to the unifiram group - there is probably not a much better way since there just isn't that much 'kinship'.

I think that it would only pass if from the 2C-D point of view the additional group is acceptable as far as binding dynamics go, so basically a ball and chain - and/or the other way around. It seems extremely likely that putting it on that 4-position is absolutely not acceptable in that sense, if anything it would have to dangle like an NBOMe on the amine function.

Funny question actually MagickalKat, since 2C-D is considered to be somewhat of a nootropic on its own. That may not be a coincidence, perhaps that was already SkyblueMolly's association.

FYI: the reason I said I didn't want to dismiss it right off the bat is for example bk-2C-B, which is a pretty rogue hybrid of empathogen drug design strategy applied to a psychedelic structure.
 
Let us not forget the abomination that was 2C-B-BZP.
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2C compound? Piperazine? (un)Fortunately, it was a failure as both.
 
^ you know that feeling you get when something is so insanely scary of an idea to you that you simultaneously get shivers and paralysis at the same time? That's what just looking at that molecule did to me...

And Soli, that was my point. I would rather take 2C-D for its known nootropic properties than take a mixture of 2C-D and another nootropic... sounds like a recipe for disaster. Considering that 2C-D is one of the lightest materials I've ever had at high doses, its safety at nootropic doses is undoubtedly good, why mess with it?
 
Guys please don't discourage shaggy from posting. His posts have literally been the highlights of my reading bluelight for some time.
 
Thanks! I'll give it a try and see how it goes. It seems very technical though. How do I export from emolecule?
Nevermind. I found marvin online from chemaxon. It's not the ideal chemical drawing place, but it's very tech challenged friendly.
I drew fluorenol. %)
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It's not letting me import more pictures, but that's probably the computer. I'll try on another computer and find out.
Nevermond again. It was the computer that acted up for a while. Now it's working.
Here's a picture of fluorenamphetamine.
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The last one is a pure monstrosity. Since 2C-I is a stimulant at low doses and 2C-D is a nootropic at low doses, and since fluorenol is a non toxic wakefulness enhancer, this "Fluorene-Di-2C-I-D" monstrosity would reek havoc assuming it's biologically active.
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Another even worse monstrosity! Fluorene-Di-2C-I-D-PhenylPiracetam.
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It would be ironic and funny if S-18,986 would leave the rest of these molecules in the dust.
Molecules are fun! :D Braino!
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^ could use a methylenedioxy or two imho

Coming right up. But first, the fictional molecule 2C-U.
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Now there's the molecule, DiMethyleneDioxyAmFluoreneAmine.
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Or was it molecule 2Y?
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Or molecule 2Z?
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Here's a pretty cool molecule. PhenylNefiracetam.
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2C-3D
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2C-3D-I
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IodoFairy
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2C-TAG.
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Acceleron.
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Ignoritol.
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Ignoritol jr
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Ignoritalynn.
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SBF-1, or SBF-H.
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SBF-D
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2C-NAP-I
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2C-NH2
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ZUH? I don't even know.
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MegaSpike!
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2C-AMT, or CAMT.
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The cool molecule, STM-18986, or STIM-22.
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The molecule, Memorimax. Based on ISRIB.
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Stimvector. Based on Cyprodenate.
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How do I export from emolecule?
Take a screenshot? :)


That would be 2C-CP. This one would probably be active, I reckon. And an interesting one to booth. I'd hit it for sure =D

2,5-dimethoxy-cyclopropyl-4-dimethoxy-phenethylamine

or the IUPAC 2-(4-Cyclopropyl-2,5-diethylphenyl)ethylamine.

Also 2C-CPM would be an interesting one.

2,5-dimethoxy-cyclopropylmethyl-4-dimethoxy-phenethylamine

(2-[4-(Cyclopropylmethyl)-2,5-diethylphenyl]ethylamine) I'll ad a drawing later when I have time.
 
Wee! Great!
So now the random molecule wont spread around all over the topics!

Let me start this (supposedly fun?) topic by this one:
(Please vote a name for it!)
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I always see this one on the front page, and it always intrigues me. Synthesis and BBB aside, what would this chemical do? Wouldn't it just destroy everything and anything it formed a complex with?
 
I just came up with some cooler molecules.
This one is 2C-TP(2C-Triangular Pyramid).
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This one is D(MDP)2P, or 1,3-Di(Methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-Propanone.
Or D(Sm)2P, 1,3-Di(Sesamyl)-2-Propanone.
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Here's piperecoline. It's sort of a combination of piperic acid and arecoline.
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Here's bm-MDA.
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WTH-2901(what the hint-2901). :D
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What if the WTH-2901 would cause the brain to grow uncontrollably and get smarter too fast?
Better stick with hollow-2C-E, hahaha! Funny.
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I call it Taaracetam


The taaracetam looks cool.
 
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