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i was just thinking of something obvious but never talked about. could drinking and smoking hamper your roll? both drinking and smoking release dopamine. obviously dopamine plays a decent role in a roll haha. iv never heard of anyone ever saying that smoking and drinking could hamper your roll. i know its best not to get drunk the night before but...how much do you think drinking and smoking affects rolling? and how long do you think it would take to recover to normal dopamine levels?
 
Drinking isn't somethingnive looked into but IME, smoking and rolling is great, as long as you don't out smoke the roll...
 
Drinking and rolling arnt a good match drinking raises ur body temperature and ur blood pressure so does rolling lots of people usually over heat their body doing both but weed is fine so try not to drink to close to when u pop
 
rollinboobs; said:
i mean will smoking and drinking before a roll hamper it in anyway?
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Idk Ive never tried that, I'm guessing this idea came to you after reading the thread about meth and Amps interactions with MDMA?
 
Two things I think bear mentioning: first of all, in my opinion a roll is the most rewarding when you feel like you've really prepared for it. For me, this means from abstaining from all other sorts of drugs for something like a week before rolling, but your interpretation may vary. Secondly, there's an impulse to micromanage your experience that can lead to disappointment. Try to let go and stop worrying about it if you can -- your brain is releasing dopamine every moment that you're alive, so trying to "maximize" your experience by limiting dopamine release is already kind of a fruitless effort.

(Off topic: I have some doubts about the proposal in that other thread, but I haven't had time to back up my counterpoint yet...)
 
RGB; said:
Two things I think bear mentioning: first of all, in my opinion a roll is the most rewarding when you feel like you've really prepared for it. For me, this means from abstaining from all other sorts of drugs for something like a week before rolling, but your interpretation may vary. Secondly, there's an impulse to micromanage your experience that can lead to disappointment. Try to let go and stop worrying about it if you can -- your brain is releasing dopamine every moment that you're alive, so trying to "maximize" your experience by limiting dopamine release is already kind of a fruitless effort.

(Off topic: I have some doubts about the proposal in that other thread, but I haven't had time to back up my counterpoint yet...)
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Yes that is true. It's my reason that I try to not take my concerta when I know I'm gonna roll.
Btw, I'm sure your argument will be great.
 
im not talking about drinking the same day as the roll, i think rgb gets what i mean. i was just wondering if getting drunk a few times like within the week before your roll could hamper it due to a loss of dopamine. i was just curious because, yes nationofthiz it did get me wondering after the meth thread. but im pretty sure dopamine recovers a lot faster than serotonin anyway right?
 
Hmm not sure, I know lots of ppl who do drink while on ecstasy (which I personally don't get...) but I never do and I've never paid attention to times when Ive drank the night before a roll compared to the times I didn't. As for smoking, first time I tried a puff of a cigarette I was on e and it was awesome, but then when I took a puff sober... not so awesome lol. Also, I know looooots of ppl who say smoking on e is amazing. So I think smoking is all good.
 
Having a beer or two before the roll will not significantly impact your roll. If anything it will reduce anxiety during the come-up. Hard drinking while on MDMA on the other hand tends to reduce the empathogenic effects of MDMA. It's kind of dirtier, more drunk MDMA high.
 
TheRollingSunshine said:
Drinking and rolling arnt a good match drinking raises ur body temperature and ur blood pressure so does rolling lots of people usually over heat their body doing both but weed is fine so try not to drink to close to when u pop
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i drank then popped alot until one time i started puking after consuming a few pills over a few hours, shooting white streams of mdma and vodka from your belly is no fun, i'd say avoid, it may work out sometimes but wen u start puking up pill ull regret it. especially cause your whole night will be over after that.
 
tamborine-man said:
FULL ARTICLE: http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/300/1/236.full

Subjective effects have been shown (in a handful of articles) to be enhanced by a small dose of alcohol - though whether this is due to a pharmacokinetic interaction or the alcohol providing a sedative (and anxiolytic) effect in the come-up, I don't know. In my opinion, it's difficult to distinguish where the drug effects end, and where psychological perception of change begins.

As has already been mentioned though, moderation is the key.
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from http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=272781&page=2

drinking can enhance
 
Cracking open an ice cold 40oz while rolling is the best!
I can drink like a fish without stopping for some reason
also i find i dont become a dumb drunk with e added to the mix as i would normally be with alcohol alone,
i just get the sedative effects with the clear headed bliss of ecstasy
 
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