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Now I'm not saying my friend as in SWIM, I literally mean my mate who's 19 has been taking Street (un tested but it's pretty obvious) MDxx in the crystal form. He's been taking it for about 6-7 (might be an understatement) months straight every weekend. Sometimes he takes acid instead because his normal-ish moderate drug use friends decide upon some acid or some form of recreational madness. Anyway as I was saying. In his new found experience with, let's call it 'diz', he has told me that he doesn't comedown anymore and that he can get past it in his head? When this guy takes diz he MASHES it, assuming street diz is defo cut massively, he still gets through about 2-4 grams a night with .4's going up his nose as a standard way to reach a level. Anyway I am beginning to worry and when i say beginning i mean getting really worried about how much damage this has done to him. From my point of view and all my mate's he is actually ok. He is clever, happy, hard working eats well sleeps well and works out a LOT. But yeah I want to know from someone that knows what they are talking about and yes I know it's common sense that he shouldn't be doing this etc etc, exactly how much damage do you reckon it has done and can do. Also showing him this might make him stop before we have to make him stop by not letting him come out with us when we go raving etc etc.
Many thanks!!
 
i wonder if i know your friend personally...
Your friends name isnt Kris is it?
I hope not, i Personally told him to stop taking so much mdma, they definitely have the same sort of tolerance levels.

This is coming from someone who has read up on mdma extensively and as much as i enjoy mdma, it is neurotoxic and it does cause depression and anxiety, especially in cases like this, where it has been used way too much.

You should use mdma , no more often than 30 days (Minimum) 60 days (Ideally) and 90+days (for optimum experience and least chance of negative side effects/ effects whilst on mdma)

If your friend has taken that much mdma, your friend has long lost the magic. Ive been using it myself for over 16 months now and ive always spaced it out, i only need 100mg to have a 3-4 hour experience.

Tell your friend if they dont stop taking mdma at that rate, they WILL more than likely suffer with Anxiety, panic attacks, Severe depression, Extreme lethargy, Low confidence, low concentration, poor memory and poor/and or increased appetite (making them over or under weight, stabilizing it basically)
 
Nah not Kris, Joe. However if i meet Kris i'll tell him to leave it out, blow the powder away and leave the squatted pub! But yeah I know it's toxic and he said the magic has definitely gone but it's still his drug of choice over anything else. It's so pissing cheap; I don't blame him. Even though most things are.
 
Is it really so Cheap?

The cost of over indulging in mdma, is going to be a life of depression probably. As someone who suffers severely from depression, i say i wouldnt want to attempt to bring that on myself in any Way, Shape or Form.
 
Cheap in terms of money. I think it's also down to habitual drug use for the weekend. 'Alcohol doesn't cut it no more' so to speak.
 
Well i dont think that going out every weekend to get 'on it' is a good idea anyway.

I dont think there are many drugs you can do every week and get away with it, especially rave scene ones, where does your friend go to of a weekend?

Alcohol once a week is probably better for your friend than mdma every weekend, however your friend sounds like someone who really gets on it hard, and they would probably drink too much and that would be just as bad and just as hard on the liver and the brain too.

I think your friend really needs to reconsider their habits and maybe squeeze in a different activity of a weekend once in a while. Does your friend enjoy a smoke? Perhaps a smoke one weekend and having a break but seriously the amount of grams that you say that your friend takes it is only a matter of time before something serious comes of this, illness wise.

I can only hope that your friend comes to their senses, please persuade them as best as you can.
 
Me and my mates are going to do our best to make him stop. And to answer your queries he goes to squat raves all over London. He is a 'Hard core drum n bass raver'. He smokes everyday, weed wise and alcohol well he can black out and still function he is a bit of a machine. But recently he's been using the old valium + alcohol warm buzz mix instead of just drinking which makes him go mad for a while till he passes out and yeah he knows about CNS depressants. The annoying thing is he isn't ignorant of any of this. I think it isn't helped by the fact that there will be someone he knows planning on rolling that weekend so therefore won't be on his own.
 
Well he is using valium as well? maybe to hide anxiety.

He might need to get some help at this rate, Valium withdrawal can kill.
I aint been london in ageeeees, never been to a Dnb event there though, not my scene.
 
You might be right. But I see him every day and I know what he gets up to. So I think the valium is probably an ok zone. But yeah a lot of London's underground DnB can get packed full of little c***s so you really wanna know what you're doing when you go to these aka find the word of mouth parties or just go to a BIG legal one cos even the legal one's are full of. Psytrance parties have brilliant vibes but the music does make me wanna chop my face off by the end of the night. Also helped by the London firm of bouncers who do trance parties.. 6'5" 10 scars and enough muscle to deck you 6ft away.
Thanks for the help Silentsam!
 
Oh okay, i don't need one i have a Username :)

I do miss going up london to raves, Ive not been to one since March
 
Think of the nature of the users on this site,
I am not going to give that information away , its also against ED's Posting discussion guidelines.

;)
 
i need some dnb party lines for london, never been to any free raves in london just been to fabric, cable etc.

there was a thread someone made and they sounded like they were in a similar position to your mate, doing md every weekend and thinking it will be fine. a fair few people posted their first hand experiences with depression, anxiety, panic attacks and such brough on by mandy in that thread i'll see if i can find it.
 
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