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[cometHacker2590]

I have struggled with a personal situation for some time now. it seemed like this was the plact to turn to for support, so i signed up. Hi to all.

I am 31 years old, have been a methamphetamine/amph user since the age of 16, and for the past several years i have been renting a room in what is known in the united states as a sober residence or sober house. it is meant for those early in recovery to provide cheap living in a safe space with others in similar situations. I moderate my use, and take care of myself. i do not look like a drug user. no one in my immediate life and surroundings know this about me, nor do they ever suspect me.

there are reasons for my living situation, but that is not important now. just understand that i insure none of the people who i live with are ever exposed to any thing that could be potentially disruptive to their own finding of success and bettering their live

one individual however...

each of the residences has an individual living there rent free who is in charge of administrative type chores such as purchasing commonly used supply's and storing items left by previous renters. they are supposed to also serve as an extra source of "more seasoned" knowledge and support to people who are fresh into the recovery scene. our in-house manager was recently replaced with someone from one of the other properties. i have come to discover that i have a lot of similar interests as this person, and we share several ideals and opinions that i would consider to be less common.

i very much suspect that he uses meth. its not outwardly apparent in any obvious way, but there are just to many correlational i have found with this persons life style and my own. i also suspect the likeliness that he feels the same way about me; especially at the point we have now gotten to. over the past several months it has gotten to the point where it seems as if both of us are trying to give off subtle hints that we are likemindedly undercover. my efforts are intentional and im almost positive not only about my assumptions that he gets high are accurate, but that he too is trying almost on a weekly basis now to covertly clue me in to this fact.

it seems like we are leaving each-other subtle, sometimes comically so, hints and messages back and forth and were basically ready to get high together... however there is no fucking possible way to actually indicate, or admit this to each other, especially being the he is supposed to serving as this higher authoritative function.


how do you ask/tell people about something, without ever mentioning the thing, or anything that is directly indicatives of that thing?

 

[TheAcetylationGame]

I have struggled with a personal situation for some time now. it seemed like this was the plact to turn to for support, so i signed up. Hi to all.

I am 31 years old, have been a methamphetamine/amph user since the age of 16, and for the past several years i have been renting a room in what is known in the united states as a sober residence or sober house. it is meant for those early in recovery to provide cheap living in a safe space with others in similar situations. I moderate my use, and take care of myself. i do not look like a drug user. no one in my immediate life and surroundings know this about me, nor do they ever suspect me.

there are reasons for my living situation, but that is not important now. just understand that i insure none of the people who i live with are ever exposed to any thing that could be potentially disruptive to their own finding of success and bettering their live

one individual however...

each of the residences has an individual living there rent free who is in charge of administrative type chores such as purchasing commonly used supply's and storing items left by previous renters. they are supposed to also serve as an extra source of "more seasoned" knowledge and support to people who are fresh into the recovery scene. our in-house manager was recently replaced with someone from one of the other properties. i have come to discover that i have a lot of similar interests as this person, and we share several ideals and opinions that i would consider to be less common.

i very much suspect that he uses meth. its not outwardly apparent in any obvious way, but there are just to many correlational i have found with this persons life style and my own. i also suspect the likeliness that he feels the same way about me; especially at the point we have now gotten to. over the past several months it has gotten to the point where it seems as if both of us are trying to give off subtle hints that we are likemindedly undercover. my efforts are intentional and im almost positive not only about my assumptions that he gets high are accurate, but that he too is trying almost on a weekly basis now to covertly clue me in to this fact.

it seems like we are leaving each-other subtle, sometimes comically so, hints and messages back and forth and were basically ready to get high together... however there is no fucking possible way to actually indicate, or admit this to each other, especially being the he is supposed to serving as this higher authoritative function.


how do you ask/tell people about something, without ever mentioning the thing, or anything that is directly indicatives of that thing?

I wouldn’t bring anyone else in regardless, your in a precarious living situation, if anyone finds out your using you’ll be out of a home. I used while I was in halfway houses but didn’t tell ANYONE.

Whenever people got caught out using it was always because of using with others and egging each other on, normalising and affirming each other’s behaviour until someone got sloppy and they all got the boot.

i would keep to myself - maybe if you judge him not to be reckless and he discloses his use to you - then you could be honest about it, but really I think you’re much better off with no one knowing that your using

 

[wudbutcher]

Keep in mind that concurrency and meth rarely walk together. Since you’re both “ cheating” at your own game of life solitaire, don’t expect fair gameplay when it’s on the table

 

[cometHacker2590]

thank you for the practical perspectives. I needed to hear that.

 

[Joey]

Id drop the situation and the hints because as said before having two people in on it is high risk. This could also be a trick of the mind with the meth. Meth has a way of deceiving people into thinking all kinds of crazy shit. You might just give yourself up to someone whos firm in his recovery and would tell staff about your use.

 

[wudbutcher]

I wonder if you’ve considered for a moment how this situation is ever going to lead to anything better in your life. And by that I mean if your never going to become a productive member of society, you’re taking up a space and extorting a ( granted not perfect) system designed to help RECOVERING drug addicts. Gtfo and stop delaying your bottom. Sooner you hit, sooner you’ll start the come up.

 

[cometHacker2590]

^^your assuming too much based on my living situation and what you think it must say about my life and my character. I"m an engineer and i teach discounted piano and guitar lessons to people who are in recovery, who need an outlet and cant afford to do much else. when I'm not doing those things i give much of my free time up to help support those in my community who are without housing. when were past this crisis, ill be back with my non profit refurbishing donated pianos so they can be put churches, schools and youth community centers that otherwise wouldn't be able to afford one.

sure, my lifestyle probably doesn't fit what most people would consider to be an authentic life of recovery of recovery, but most of the amphetamines i consume are legally prescribed to me and medically justified. Even if i never supplemented my doctor prescribed dextroamphetamine with street meth, i would still keep this from the people in my life who are in the program because what works for them works for them, and what works for me works form me. we don't need to make other people understand why it works, so long as it works.

I hope your wonder is satisfied and hopefully this was a more adequate introduction.

If your in support of reducing harm for those who seek it in this place, you should welcome them to it.

 

[wudbutcher]

Didn’t mean as dogging ya dude. Harm reduction means if my experience can save you some pain, or save your life, then I spit it. Sometimes way too brutally I know; I push send and, like a bullet it’s on its way. Addiction doesn’t care how ya started or what ya started with. And for those using meth that think it’s a positive in their life, ask yourself this” what is the trade off? What am I giving up in exchange for super powers?” The earlier in the harder to answer. Honesty I think is the biggest loss. Not with most you encounter, fuck off they don’t deserve explanation. Those who choose to care about you, and to those you reciprocate those feelings, deserve it. With time you’ll actually wake one day and find you’re schizophrenic. Half thinks you’re fine, the other you knows the truth.I hope you never know, statistically you will I’m afraid

 

[wudbutcher]

Wait, an engineer who can’t afford housing? You’re halfway there cousin.

 

[G_Chem]

I can build a home, doesn’t mean I can afford it..

I second the notion that meth can alter your perceived reality in subtle ways, you may be picking up on hints that aren’t really there. Either way for your own safety just keep to yourself.

-GC

 

[wudbutcher]

I can build a home, doesn’t mean I can afford it..

I second the notion that meth can alter your perceived reality in subtle ways, you may be picking up on hints that aren’t really there. Either way for your own safety just keep to yourself.

-GC

A fellow wood butcher! Thank you bud, I seem too blunt in my good intentions. Youngsters get butt hurt so easily. With math the curve ( rather than downward spiral) is so subtle , so gradual.

 

[Marty1912]

I read your posts, both of you just had a misunderstanding and I think you both meant well and are good people. I want to interject my thoughts. Using meth can give you the feelings of inferiority, even if you are the kindest person in the world. When someone reaches out with what resembles criticism, it can feel very intrusive and offensive. You are searching for support here and received the equivalent of having your nose rubbed in shit. I just wanted to tell you that he didn't mean to come off that way. Don't turn away from seeking support with your dilemma over this misunderstanding.
I agree with Alex_1991. You should proceed with caution. You just don't know with 100% certainty that this housing manager feels the way you suspect. Don't be the first one to make the play. Wait it out, as painful as it seems. The opportunity will surface when the stars are lined up correctly (whatever that means to you). Hold out awhile longer until that confirmation of the green light is apparant.

 

[wudbutcher]

I read your posts, both of you just had a misunderstanding and I think you both meant well and are good people. I want to interject my thoughts. Using meth can give you the feelings of inferiority, even if you are the kindest person in the world. When someone reaches out with what resembles criticism, it can feel very intrusive and offensive. You are searching for support here and received the equivalent of having your nose rubbed in shit. I just wanted to tell you that he didn't mean to come off that way. Don't turn away from seeking support with your dilemma over this misunderstanding.
I agree with Alex_1991. You should proceed with caution. You just don't know with 100% certainty that this housing manager feels the way you suspect. Don't be the first one to make the play. Wait it out, as painful as it seems. The opportunity will surface when the stars are lined up correctly (whatever that means to you). Hold out awhile longer until that confirmation of the green light is apparant.

Admittedly, a fixer by nature. And as someone that’s experienced meth addiction from both ends of the spectrum, I focus on let’s fix the foundation rather then just patch the leak. Apologies.
Also a parent, and old, so I immediately factor in that I don’t know the age of poster. I remember rolling my eyes when advice from well meaning experience was presented. I was immortal once as well lol. When dealing with employeees, always tend to over explain. That does two things.
Refreshes already known in the listeners mind, and maybe a different process/ technique to achieve same goal or end result.
In business, relieves me from liability insomuch as employee cannot claim I wasn’t clear on task parameters, nothing is assumed.
On this forum, it helps me by ( hopefully) helping others; if only as an example of what not to do. Strengthens my sometimes quite shaky resolve to improve, hopefully to a point that I’m an occasional rather than frequent contributor. A full life leaves little time.
And that’s my wish for all you new( or old) crazy, drug addled mofos.
A full life with more smiles than tears.

 

[TheInvisibleStoner]

Wait, an engineer who can’t afford housing? You’re halfway there cousin.

These are unprecedented times. Not all engineers are employed. Also finding employment right now (unless you want to do something like work at mcdonalds or slightly over min wage warehouse jobs) is extremely hard.

I know a lot of people out of work right now. Even in normal times people take time off / not well enough to work. Consider covid and engineers that are homeless and may never engineer again are probably pretty common.

 

[wudbutcher]

These are unprecedented times. Not all engineers are employed. Also finding employment right now (unless you want to do something like work at mcdonalds or slightly over min wage warehouse jobs) is extremely hard.

I know a lot of people out of work right now. Even in normal times people take time off / not well enough to work. Consider covid and engineers that are homeless and may never engineer again are probably pretty common.

One thing I’ve learned throughout all the presidents in office during my years is this, if you want to work badly enough, you’ll find work. May not be your “ dream job”, in fact may have to humble yourself do what it takes to keep the lights on and food on the table. It’s called adulting.

 

[TheAcetylationGame]

One thing I’ve learned throughout all the presidents in office during my years is this, if you want to work badly enough, you’ll find work. May not be your “ dream job”, in fact may have to humble yourself do what it takes to keep the lights on and food on the table. It’s called adulting.

Damn I gotta get me some of this adulting stuff, sounds lit

 

[Marty1912]

Damn I gotta get me some of this adulting stuff, sounds lit

 

[Marty1912]

I only sent that emoji to show my appreciation for the humor under that sarcasm. I believe you meant well, and so do I. Keep the . Anyhow, it made me grin. TY!

 

[Marty1912]

Admittedly, a fixer by nature. And as someone that’s experienced meth addiction from both ends of the spectrum, I focus on let’s fix the foundation rather then just patch the leak. Apologies.
Also a parent, and old, so I immediately factor in that I don’t know the age of poster. I remember rolling my eyes when advice from well meaning experience was presented. I was immortal once as well lol. When dealing with employeees, always tend to over explain. That does two things.
Refreshes already known in the listeners mind, and maybe a different process/ technique to achieve same goal or end result.
In business, relieves me from liability insomuch as employee cannot claim I wasn’t clear on task parameters, nothing is assumed.
On this forum, it helps me by ( hopefully) helping others; if only as an example of what not to do. Strengthens my sometimes quite shaky resolve to improve, hopefully to a point that I’m an occasional rather than frequent contributor. A full life leaves little time.
And that’s my wish for all you new( or old) crazy, drug addled mofos.
A full life with more smiles than tears.

You are a wealth of information and I enjoy reading your posts! Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Sometimes, I think that I know what needs to be said and end up with a mouthful of foot, lol. I'm old, too! Mid 50's. But, still have a strong need to remain optimistic and encouraging toward others. I've had some real trials in life like most, but refuse to allow any of it to harden my heart. Life is difficult enough without adding grim opinions to bring someone else down. Have you listened to Korn? Jonathan Davis (lead singer)? Their music is for people who have been victimized by others and brought to their knees from life's disappointments. I listen to them quite a bit and it keeps me sane. Music is healing!

 

[wudbutcher]

I don’t like the whole victim phrase myself. And I know it’s a domino effect we are victimized as children ditto here. Once I got old enough to halfway control my surroundings, from there on it was just bad choices and I still make some today physical disabilities aside, kind of annoys me when people say I’m not working right now. Why? Because I lost my job. Is that the only job on this planet? Success is always been about adapting, it’s going to be a real requirement in this new world post Covid. I do not believe in evolution, but we are going to be required to roll with the punches if you’re gonna make it through