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I have strict age standards. That I want to break, but can't.

Let's say a 23-year old guy with a decent job meets a 17-year old girl who already has a child. The two like each other and provide each other what they need. Defend the illegality of that.

I think you have morals versus the law confused. Yea morally there probably isnt anything wrong with the relationship since she is almost of age. But what I was saying is that's not how the law sees it. The law doesn't care of she's one day away from 18.

That's all I was gettin at. A friendly caution
 
I think you just want somebody to tell you/make you feel like it's okay to bang a girl who's illegal.

Just wait it out, man. I don't have many concerns about what's legal and what isn't either but one thing I'm not willing to do prison time for (and be labeled a sex offender) is some pussy.
 
I clearly said in my first post that no matter what anyone posted, I would not break my principle.. thanks for your input though
 
I think you have morals versus the law confused. Yea morally there probably isnt anything wrong with the relationship since she is almost of age. But what I was saying is that's not how the law sees it. The law doesn't care of she's one day away from 18.

That's all I was gettin at. A friendly caution

Every law has an underlying philosophy, or it runs the risk of being a law for law's sake.

I think jazz does make a point, in the fact that AOC laws are philosophically indefensible on a case-by-case basis - In the case he described, it wouldn't stand on its own merits.
 
Let's say a 23-year old guy with a decent job meets a 17-year old girl who already has a child. The two like each other and provide each other what they need. Defend the illegality of that.
your post read like it was indefensibly low, not indefensibly high...

alasdair
 
Has anyone actually fully read and understood my second post?

older women... been there, done that, but it's difficult to assert control over someone who has had more experience than you (also from a gender that is 2 years mentally more mature..). I don't like being the underling. Anything about that is humiliating. That is something I will just not venture to, relationship wise(sexual encounters only, older women are ok). And this 17 year old has relationship potential.

I'm sorry, I guess I was a fool to expect anyone to understand or even ALMOST relate, as there are very few who think as I do.

Age can have very little to do with emotional maturity. Women of any age would wonder why they would want to be with a man who wants to be with a woman who is "easy to control". If you want that, get a pet for god's sake. :p
 
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OP, have you ever experienced love before? Do you want to avoid it at all costs? I don't think the age factor is the biggest issue here. Sure everyone wants a partner who is attractive and relatively around the same age, nothing wrong with that. BUT maybe you should think in to why you want a girl who you can psychologically control and manipulate? Is it because you got burned before and want to make sure ur the one in charge this time? You said its not sexual but there is a comfort for you in being with a girl who you feel is lesser than yourself. You described ur ideal girl as being cruel and insensitive like yourself... why is this? Do you not want to be loved or cared for? Are you afraid of getting hurt? Do you feel unable to love? From your posts I can tell you have a big ego (no offense) and I believe that you may be seeking out naive trophy chicks to feed it so you can be in charge but at the end of the day youre unsatisfied with just a hot body and an empty mind. You said personality turns u on more than anything, so that means cruelty and insensitivity towards urself and directed at ur partner is the biggest turn on. im sure u like angry makeup sex lol the 17 y.o girl ur after u described her as seeing u as if ur the best, but then u described ur ideal girl as the opposite. Is it the challenge? Do you want a fiesty girl who you feel is on the same high level u put urself on whom youll have the challenge of trying to control but she'll repeatidly put u in ur place and youll fight and argue and fuck til ur blue in the face playing power games? Age is not the problem here, i think you need to figure out what u truly want in a relationship
 
go for it - just make sure you don't fuck her until shhe's 18. OR if you do, tell no one and make sure she does not either.
Make sure she knows you are not trying to keep your relationship a secret you just don't want to get in trouble and that it can all happily come out in the open when she is legal age.

From your other posts it sounds like dating someone younger would be good prep for dating someone your own age, or realizing that age is just a number when it comes to only 3 or 4 years difference, after you have both surpassed 20/21.

I myself have seen a few underagers when I was a bit younger and more immature and it didn't work out so well, but I don't think that was about age, and more my state of mind.

Remember these are very high standards, set by politicians.
 
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Look man you act like you are really immature and have no real morals in your life. Good luck in the real world. Maybe you shouldn't try slaying all these girls just yet. Take some time to get in touch with morality. But if you find you just are no good, which I kinda suspect...start having sex with whoever you want.
 
this makes as much sense to me as "i only walk down the west side of the street on thursdays, every other day i walk on the east side of the street."

you are your own prophet, and create your own barriers. choose not to. problem solved.
 
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