I have ADD and problems communicating.

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Hi guys I have ADD and have always had a bad sense of self. My whole life I've lacked self-esteem & confidence and it has undermined my decent looks and good things about me. One thing that has really been upsetting me and causing me to reach out to you guys is, how do I find out what about me exactly, is turning off the opposite sex.

I can't figure out if it's my nasally dorky micheal cera sounding voice, or the fact that I look 20 when I'm 27 and I'm kind of a pretty boy. Or that I just give off bad vibes. I am so sick of feeling insecure and afraid around people I don't know that well. It's like when I'm talking to someone a distracting thought just pops into my head "they know you think their ugly" and then my facial expression changes and then I see them pick up on it. Does that make sense? I can't help but analyze the convo, the other persons facial expressions, etc. And it makes it very hard to communicate. I'm trying so hard to change but it feels hopeless. Having ADD really messes up how I think and communicate. Please help.

I'm thinking of training myself to hardly talk at all because my voice is very unnatractive and makes me sound "thick and stupid" and I trip on my own words and I tend to curse, talk about myself, whine & complain, and I'm not nearly as witty and funny as I use to be because of all the alcohol I think. At least if I don't talk I'll have that 'mysterious' quality about me. I think as soon as I open my mouth girls write me off.
 
I think this would be more appropriate in TDS so I'm going to move it over, I'm sure you'll get some great answers there :)

One thing to remember though, is that if you feel so insecure about yourself, you're probably inadvertently showing that to people. It's been repeated to the point of sounding cliché, but confidence really is key. The fact that you analyze other people's expressions and reactions to you is also probably somewhat obvious to them, and probably puts up a barrier between you as it makes you seem more cut-off and inaccessible. I know it's difficult, but try not to focus on what others are thinking of you, at least not while you're with them. If you must, obsess over it while you're alone, but doing it while they're there probably isn't as subtle as you'd like it to be.
 
What you described is exactly how I am. I can't help it and it drives me mad over thinking and over analyzing conversations and my interactions with other people. I have learned though, that the thing that puts most people off in situations like that, was my lack of eye contact and inability to follow conversational threads (because I was paying to much attention to my own thoughts).

I rarely talk nowdays and have found that it's not much better. The 'mysterious' quality about it disappears the more people get to know you and it becomes more of an 'awkward' quality. Rather than training yourself to keep quiet, you might benefit more from vocational coaching (theater etc) to learn to speak with confidence and ignore your analytical thoughts.
 
I have ADD also. I have a strong tendency to interrupt people while they're talking. I change subjects suddenly. I say things that are difficult for other people to understand. The result is that I have almost zero friends and social isolation.

That's one of the reasons I drink alcohol a lot. It sedates my brain enough for me to wait for my turn to talk in a conversation.
 
I have ADD also. I have a strong tendency to interrupt people while they're talking. I change subjects suddenly. I say things that are difficult for other people to understand. The result is that I have almost zero friends and social isolation.

That's one of the reasons I drink alcohol a lot. It sedates my brain enough for me to wait for my turn to talk in a conversation.

i know the feeling! its frustrating i always interupt and only listen to about half of what other people say... even when i am the one that asked the question
 
Thanks for responding guys. I just feel like my brain and mouth aren't connected sometimes. Take tonight for example, I have a girl from class who is clearly interested in me, and we've been texting each other back and forth. And then I start opening up about how i have trouble trusting women and how i dont know how to be just friends with women. And on and on. Luckily shes polite enough to not ignore me after saying that stuff like most women would. It's like, as soon as I meet a girl I just have to unload everything about myself onto them. I need to learn how to be discretionary so badly people please help me Im tired of sabotaging every relationship through my diahrea mouth. I don't know the concept of TMI.

Here is what I said, please be brutally honest and tell me why I do this, as this is a typical thing i do when starting to get to know someone.

Me: "thank you michelle for not being turned off by me revealing that to you. I have such a hard time in the beginning with people because I have sort of a intensely spontaneously and dorky personality that ppl dont get sometimes. I'm going through a transformation process from the old me into the new Christ centered me"

Me: "I dont really have any close friends. I use to but they left. And the friends I do have live faw away and we only talk by phone. I spend basically everyday alone watching a lot of tv, reading, etc."

Me:I hope im not freaking you out, its just, i dont really know how to be just friends with a girl actually. The only girls ive ever been close to have been romantically involved."

Her: No, your not freaking me out, everyone has insecurities. Thanks for trusting me with your thoughts."


It's too bad I don't find her attractive in the least otherwise id feel like i was really onto something here. Past experience has shown me that any girl 7 or above on the attractiveness scale would have immedietely written me off and ignored any future texts by me. Even though im not attracted to her physically Im not gonna just write her off like some jerk. We can be friends and are gonna get coffee soon.
 
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I can advise a few things for you.. Take them as you will..

First.. LISTEN to what others are saying .. I know it is HARD, REALLY hard.. I find that if you watch their lips while they talking, it gives you some place to look and focus on what they are saying (plus if someone calls you out on it you can say that some times you have a hard time hearing and wanted to know exactly what they were saying so you were focused on their mouth)

Second .... stop, think and repeat in your head what you are going to say before you say it.. even if you have to say something like , give me a sec, to allow for it..

Other things.. Try upping your voice and octave or two.. it can be hard to do, but it can be done and should help a little bit with that heavy sound that you do not like..

Also.. If you have something very important that you really want / need to communicate to someone write an email. You can always start it with "This is very impotent to me and I wanted to be as clear and detailed as possible. I have found its much easier for me to communicate this way in order to convey the most information as possible. "

I have an ex that the only way we could ever talk about important relationship stuff was via email Other wise he would freeze up , shut down or just not be able to keep up a conversation.. Email was a god send for us in that manor..

Lastly.. Don't be so hard on your self.. You just have to find the right person and that person will love you for you.. FUCK the rest, you really do not need anyone in your life that is going to mistreat you!!
 
It all comes down to one word...CONFIDENCE...Don't withdraw yourself,it only has negative results,trust me...You have to FORCE YOURSELF to own every moment.Do all the cliche things...

*Walk into a party like it's yours
*Talk to every girl like you two already banged
*Look into the eyes of everyone you speak to
*Dominate every handshake
*Walk with your chest out,and head up

Train yourself to be assertive,and it will start to flow naturally.Ask God for help.You can be humble,but tell yourself you're worth it.I've been in your position before,and I quickly told myself to SNAP OUT OF IT.My heart was scar tissue from all the times a woman stepped on it.I tried to jade myself,Forcing myself to be confident was much easier.Who gives a shit about the way you talk???That isn't a major concern for women,but confidence is.Good luck.
 
I have ADD too.
ADD and getting chicks seems sometimes like mixing oil and water.

Sometimes I want to leave the relationship I am in now, but thanks to ADD, I am not financially able to, and will I ever meet another girl that I will want to hold on to?

She's a good girl but she is bad for my mental health.
Am I going to bottom feed if I leave this relationship and just get into another disfunctional union?

All the (mostly) sane good looking chicks are after the 'nice car' guys and the 'good job' guys, and unfortunatley us ADD people usually have neither.

If I had a good job or lots of money I would be beating off women instead of myself.
I have not much desire to have sex with the woman I have now.

She yells and screams too much and has a throwing things kind of temper, how many more TV remotes, cordless phones, cups and ashtrays etc. are going to meet their doom?
I swear she is bi-polar with anxiety issues. And she is always right, and I start the arguments, always.

Moral: Think of a potential mate like they are applying for a job.
 
Hi guys I have ADD and have always had a bad sense of self. My whole life I've lacked self-esteem & confidence and it has undermined my decent looks and good things about me. One thing that has really been upsetting me and causing me to reach out to you guys is, how do I find out what about me exactly, is turning off the opposite sex.

I can't figure out if it's my nasally dorky micheal cera sounding voice, or the fact that I look 20 when I'm 27 and I'm kind of a pretty boy. Or that I just give off bad vibes. I am so sick of feeling insecure and afraid around people I don't know that well. It's like when I'm talking to someone a distracting thought just pops into my head "they know you think their ugly" and then my facial expression changes and then I see them pick up on it. Does that make sense? I can't help but analyze the convo, the other persons facial expressions, etc. And it makes it very hard to communicate. I'm trying so hard to change but it feels hopeless. Having ADD really messes up how I think and communicate. Please help.

I'm thinking of training myself to hardly talk at all because my voice is very unnatractive and makes me sound "thick and stupid" and I trip on my own words and I tend to curse, talk about myself, whine & complain, and I'm not nearly as witty and funny as I use to be because of all the alcohol I think. At least if I don't talk I'll have that 'mysterious' quality about me. I think as soon as I open my mouth girls write me off.
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I no longer eat medicine, while I might have gotten a little bit less social, I noticed since I was on it, how much people don't really care. It's mostly you who cares, everyone else will not notice it unless you make it obvious by thinking about it. Don't overanalyze, just be yourself. So what if you do / say something awkward, chances are pretty high no one is going to give a fuck an hour from now. And if they do, then that's their problem really, and they probably suffer from it aswell. I don't overanalyze every other persons action, why would they overanalyze mine?

I'd rather make myself a fool once in a while than fool myself that it actually matters. Because it doesn't. Many of the people we meet we don't spend a great amount of time with even, that girl you met at a party is surely not going to waste alot of her thoughts about how funny your voice is or how your nose looks. If she does, then she's the one with issues really. These days, I tend to feel sorry for these people instead of myself and so should you :)

People often look at my needle scars with various reactios, some comment with pity/anger/ or just ask how the fuck do I dare show myself in public with them. Well, it is not a problem to me, it's part of my life, while I may not be proud of it, it's not going to keep me from going swimming at the beach during summer. Unknown guy giving me the looks doesn't bother me. I'll stare right back knowing he has no idea really...
 
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^ @ powerfarts, I think you are blaming way too much on ADD. I have ADD, my husband has ADD and both of my sons did. The main symptoms that can be debilitating are impulsivity, difficulty concentrating or focusing on one thing for prolonged periods of time and a tendency to disorganization. My husband is an engineer that owns his own business, I'm an art teacher and my living son is just completing his degree and has worked his way through college while waiting tables. In other words, we are coping with our brains just fine. I actually think that naming this kind of brain a name that has Deficit in the middle and Disorder at the end has done way more harm than good. If you took the label out and just said that we are people that have a hard time concentrating, are prone to saying and doing things impulsively and tend to be disorganized we would see those traits like any other traits that we have to adapt to, change to the best of our abilities if we can or, and this is the big one, adapt what we do with our lives to the particular brain we have. I will always think that being a grade school art teacher is a fantastic job for someone with a brain like mine that shoots all over the place. I've got so many new ideas that I don't have enough school days to even do them all! And as far as relationships go, ADD is not only males.

There are plenty of women out there that are not so shallow as to be only interested in a guy's car or money. Just like guys that are only interested in a girl's looks, they exist but I don't know if it is really even a majority in either case, it's just the pervasive image. After all the media tells us that's what we should care about (looks for women and success/money for men). But look around at real people. There are countless couples that are happy with each other that don't fit the stereotypes. It is up to each of us as individuals to rebel against these narrow cultural coffins and actually see each other as human beings. Your girlfriend right now sounds emotionally abusive and I think that you would be doing yourself a favor to either confront her with that and see if she would consider counseling of some sort or leaving. No one deserves someone that blames them and subjects them to explosive anger all the time.

OP, I wanted to respond to the things you were inviting opinions on:

Me: "thank you michelle for not being turned off by me revealing that to you. I have such a hard time in the beginning with people because I have sort of a intensely spontaneously and dorky personality that ppl dont get sometimes. I'm going through a transformation process from the old me into the new Christ centered me"

I don't think you have to thank someone for not being turned off by you. Just start with the honest second sentence. Telling someone that you have a hard time with people in the beginning is fine but calling yourself "dorky" is not a great label to put in her head and definitely not one you want in your own head.


Me: "I dont really have any close friends. I use to but they left. And the friends I do have live faw away and we only talk by phone. I spend basically everyday alone watching a lot of tv, reading, etc."

Again, what about just saying, "It's hard for me to feel comfortable with people, but I am really trying to change that. I really appreciate how open you are." You don't need to say that you sit alone all day and paint it in a bad light. You could say, "I spend a lot of time alone and I'm comfortable with that but I'm working on being more social and reaching out more."

Me:I hope im not freaking you out, its just, i dont really know how to be just friends with a girl actually. The only girls ive ever been close to have been romantically involved."

I think what you said here is perfect. It's sweet and honest and if I were the girl I would be honored that you were trusting me to say it.

As far as the timbre of your voice goes, if it really bothers you you could get voice training from a voice coach. But seriously, I would bet that you are your own worst critic when it comes to that. Whenever I hear my own voice on a recording or in a video or something I think I sound like an 8 year old with a bad cold LOL. Other people don't even notice or if they do it is hardly the most important part of an impression. Don't censor yourself. You have a very open and honest persona and many people respond positively to that. Those that don't? You don't need them.

Absinthekittie had perhaps the best advice in here, which is to listen, really listen, more than you talk. When you do that, you automatically reverse roles from the person feeling a lack of confidence to the person helping someone else feel more confident. Without any effort this begins to build your own confidence and creates real connection with people. Everybody is starving for genuine connection, no matter how they present on the surface IME. The neediness that people project often prevents them from getting what they so desperately need. Giving to someone else and shifting the focus onto the other person's need ends up fulfilling both.

The best thing that anyone can do is to work on becoming comfortable and accepting of themselves. It's a hard road in this image-driven culture but it is perhaps our only true freedom that no one can either give us, nor take away. As long as you are working on that your life is on track and everything else gets easier. <3
 
I think you should just focus on feeling good about yourself and go from there. People have a tendency to be hypercritical of themselves, and you have to self-adjust knowing this.

Feel free to PM me if you ever want to.
 
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