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I have a theory about homosexuality.

tommy34

tommy34

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I not sure if this is the best place for this so can mods please move it if it's wrong.
Okay so first off I just want to make it clear that I am a firm believer in evolution and that I believe gay people are born gay with no choice of their own. So here if my theory, as a result of evolution more and more people will be born gay. I believe that this is a way to effectively cut the human population therefore reducing the harm done to earth that will otherwise see the end of the human race. What do you think about that idea?
 
Humans have way more defects and psychological issues then nature, and being gay is just simply being born with too much estrogen (for males) in the brain. In nature you don't see queer animals, and rarely as many birth defects or brain defects then in humans.
 
bigben202 said:
Humans have way more defects and psychological issues then nature, and being gay is just simply being born with too much estrogen (for males) in the brain. In nature you don't see queer animals, and rarely as many birth defects or brain defects then in humans.
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You could also argue that humans are more complicated therefore easier to fuck up. Also I think it's only whales and humans that have sex for pleasure, therefore if a animal was gay they wouldn't have sex with their own sex for pleasure so they wouldn't have sex at all and we wouldn't be able to tell if they were gay.
 
panic in paradise said:
... i think that is a lot to think about.

wow - seriously what brought this to your mind.?


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either way: i would/will defend gay rights.
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I often think about man's destiny. I don't see another way that humans can survive, we are to greedy to change our ways.

I also stand up for gay rights, it's just fear off the unknown that has caused them so much discrimination.
 
I know tons of gays. I have gay people in my family. I guess you can say I'm well versed in the Realm of The Gay. heh.

Anyway, I don't completely doubt your theory... but keep in mind that homosexuality has been around for AGES. The Egyptians, The Greeks, etc... I feel that human beings are naturally bi-curious. Upbringing, surroundings, and culture can sway a person toward one or the other. I'm not quite sold on the whole "Scientific Explanation" as if all men are born with too much or too little of a certain chemical and whatnot. Many of the gay men I know have chosen their lifestyle after years of female rejection and/or contempt. Not to say the scientific reasoning is invalid... but I think there are many factors.

As far as population control and the human race is concerned... who knows. Are we supposed to be phased out? Or are we bound to evolve and live differently/more peacefully? Perhaps there is no reason. Much like everything else... it just is what it is.
 
tommy34 said:
I often think about man's destiny. I don't see another way that humans can survive, we are to greedy to change our ways.

I also stand up for gay rights, it's just fear off the unknown that has caused them so much discrimination.
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this is pretty big to me the more i think about it, and seems maybe best described as a 'metamorphosis', rather then evolution - that is maybe more sensible as creation rather then continued existence - similar to a plant; marijuana for example-heh, a lot to learn from that stuff, and not much to do with ingesting for the THC etc., but its light use and retainment(most light tolerant plant), water and nutrient storage, leaf and bud structure, hermaphrodite tendencies, color changing sensitivities, shock or trauma from surrounding environmental factors from cellular sensitivity...eh - further sustenance of our 'kind' in general, not us as we perceive each other; we cant hold many opinions about much as a society for very long - especially when it comes to each other.

so who can we trust??? not each other or time so much - but nature and its course, and what it shows me -i feel anyway- are actually practical resources of ideas that can be applied into our needs and means for technology' or advancement/needs/comfort in "our real worlds'' practical for the earths-life and ourselves as should follow while listening and observing, not just trying to run the show.


maybe that appears OT, but this is of great-relativity it seems to me, and even if not as fact it seems a decent instigator of thought .
 
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bigben202 said:
Humans have way more defects and psychological issues then nature, and being gay is just simply being born with too much estrogen (for males) in the brain. In nature you don't see queer animals, and rarely as many birth defects or brain defects then in humans.
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wrong, you'll see that it is quite common in nature

tommy34 said:
You could also argue that humans are more complicated therefore easier to fuck up. Also I think it's only whales and humans that have sex for pleasure, therefore if a animal was gay they wouldn't have sex with their own sex for pleasure so they wouldn't have sex at all and we wouldn't be able to tell if they were gay.
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it's dolphins i think, not whale.
 
Unless gay people are having more kids than straight people then I can't see how evolution would result in more and more gay people being born.
 
tommy34 said:
I not sure if this is the best place for this so can mods please move it if it's wrong.
Okay so first off I just want to make it clear that I am a firm believer in evolution and that I believe gay people are born gay with no choice of their own. So here if my theory, as a result of evolution more and more people will be born gay. I believe that this is a way to effectively cut the human population therefore reducing the harm done to earth that will otherwise see the end of the human race. What do you think about that idea?
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dude where did yoiu buy that chit it must be good cause you are fucking roasted...you have to be to come up with that chit...8o
 
If you can access relaible data you can get an idea whether your hypothesis is on the right lines. Gay %age of population increasing may indicate you're onto something. I'm guessing you aren't
 
This is an interesting theory....but I'm not sure if homosexuality alone could wipe out an entire population. This is a very interesting time to be alive. The planet is shifting (spiritually, energetically)...people are "waking up". If this means that some men and women are falling in love with same sex humans, and realizing who they are, then it HAS to be a beautiful thing. I'm not sure what the percentage is, but it is true that homosexuality has been around for thousands of years, and was even quite popular. I guess if we compare those times to these times, it may be the same.
Our Planet, is completely overrun by humans, and we have a choice, unlike the always heterosexual Fox. We can Love who we want, and Express that Love.
If everyone stoppped having heterosexual sex tomorrow, humans would cease to exist. There are plenty of heterosexual humans who will continue the race, and that does NOT mean that same sex lovers are not part of that race.
Also, consider this: We live in an age where our culture is sexually overactive. Everything is sex. Sex sells. Where's LOVE? The powers that be instill sex in us at a young age (not to mention all of the hormones in our food that speed up our sexual development) So it's sort of a huge contradiction. All I know is that when it comes down to it, the Earth has the final say. And if she wants, she can just sneeze us right off.
 
I'm going to second PIP. I don't think it has anything to do with Evolution. More like it is very easy to have your basic needs met in our modern society (food, shelter, companionship) so we can focus our energies on something besides basic needs and procreation. A surplus of goods and services allows art, music, science, etc to bloom and a side-effect of all this is that we now have more time to explore areas of human sexuality that would never be appropriate to explore in a survival type situation.

One thing that all cultures that practiced homosexuality have in common is that for the most part, they were stable empires where people were safe and successful. There are way more babies born when people are worried about surviving the day-to-day shit, its only human nature.
 
^would you 3rd? -or feel comfortable expanding on the thought:
that this may not be an adaptation to what we see as ourselves, or what we are accustomed to perceiving/conceiving as us, but rather an adaptation and re-evolution into nature - as-is? as it seems we have refused an adaptation of thus far; or the opposite only rather

in so many words...



<3
 
I don't see homosexuality as a result of evolution, but I can certainly see how it plays a causal role - effectively filtering out anything that would strongly correlate with homosexuality from the gene pool.
 
Yeah, if i get what you are saying PIP, I would agree with that.

Once we (as a society) reach a certain point we are able to develop our thoughts and ideas into full-blown philosophies about life, many of which are not even codified as such, but they control our behaviors and actions, and I would say that for the most part, these actions focus not on the essentials of survival, but rather on more esoteric things.
The way I personally think about it is that there are some religions designed for the time in mans evolution when survival and reproduction was paramount, and some that are designed for times when man has transcended the base needs of a survivalist and can now focus on the study and cultivation of ideas and relationships with other people.

For me, Judaism is a classic example of the former, and Buddhism of the latter. One warms against homosexuality and extols the virtues of procreation while the other extols personal exploration, the acceptance of all beings, and the importance of science, art, and exploration.

It is a conscious ignorance of what we are supposed to be doing based on human nature - an embrace of all people and a love for mankind. In this way I would absolutely say that it is humanity trying to escape evolution and transcend the idea of humans as animals.

And yes, in so many words, love.
 
Homosexuality is not readily a evolutionary defined thing in that homosexuality as a pure trait would not be passed on to offspring. It could well be that there are genetic traits that respond to over population by making members of a species less inclined to reproduce or even more likely to be gay. I think some animals studies have shown more homosexuality when animals are populated. Maybe though when overpopulation occurs everyone is a bit more decadent and unashamed so researchers observe more out of the closet frenetic homosexual behavior.

I favor the theory that some folks got sprinkled with fairy dust and some didn't.

There is an interesting thing about homosexuality. The more male siblings born before one to the same mother increases the chances one will be gay. If that factoid is true than fewer children per mother as happens in more technologically equipped cultures should equal fewer homos.

Lots of speculation is done on this topic from many different disciplines. If they iron things out a bit more someday I may have to give up on my fairy dust theorem.
 
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