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mistymisty0931

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So the last time I took a white gucci, it was a really great roll with no comedown and it was a smooth come up. Unfortunately I made the mistake of taking 5-HTP almost 30 minutes after the event, and I started to get anxious and jittery, with cold sweaty hands and tingly hands and feet. My heart was beating fast, and I couldn't sleep all night. The only way I felt better was to eat something, and I ate a banana. Then the next day after, I felt nauseous and wanted to throw up but I couldn't. This was in June by the way. Now today I am going to an event and I kinda want to roll, but I don't know if I should. Would these effects come back? I am not taking 5-HTP anymore, I don't like it. I am planning on taking a white gucci again, so would I be okay taking just one without feeling those scary effects?
 
Do you have a PR link or ecstasydata link for the pill?

Strange reaction to 5HTP. Not imposible but unusual.

I am planning on taking a white gucci again, so would I be okay taking just one without feeling those scary effects?
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I would try and trace the source or contents of the pill first before jumping to and conclusions.
 
Those are the old ones. The newer batches contain a LOT more methamphetamine. Probably in a 1:1 ratio of MDMA to Meth

http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=30291

Consumed these over the weekend. Tweaky as suspected, and in my opinion, much TOO much amp. Had one of these early on and then two molly's through the night. Difficulty sleeping and irritability persistant 7-9 hours later.
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Methamphetamine would explain by itself why you are jittery and anxious, those are it's most common side effects. On top of that though, you took 5-HTP... 5-HTP and MDMA can cause Serotonin Syndrome, which can be a possibly fatal condition in some cases. Your lucky you took it after the rave, if you took it with the MDMA you might have had to go to the hospital.



Moral of the story: Don't take pills adulterated with METH, and don't take 5-HTP... ever.
 
I checked it and it's clean with a small dose of amp.
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One of the limitations of colour reagent tests is figuring out the exact adulterant.

The risk you face is it might be something other than Meth.

I would agree with folley and advise dont consume adulterated pills. Much better to buy pure MDMA pills and adulterate yourself if speedey rolls is what you want.

Re the 5HTP I have never had a bad reaction from 5HTP so dont think it is dangerous for everyone.

I dont think taking a 5HTP will make everyone sick if they take it during rolling.

The best advice I think is to treat 5HTP with caution dont write it off.

One other thing to add I have never been a great fan of novelty pills. Glitter in pills is just simply nasty.

Try and source some mints or pokeballs if you can. Much better :)

Alternatively look at some of the European offerings Grenades, Bomb 250s, Defqons, Questionmarks etc.
 
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Re the 5HTP I have never had a bad reaction from 5HTP so dont think it is dangerous for everyone.

I dont think taking a 5HTP will make everyone sick if they take it during rolling.
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MDMA and 5-HTP causes Serotonin Syndrome, a possibly DEADLY condition. It is absolutely not safe for anyone to take it while rolling.


5-HTP was only meant to be in our brains, L-Tryptophan is found in nature (turkey, fish, bananas), and is converted naturally to 5-HTP by the brain.. when you just take 5-HTP, you skip that whole process and just introduce a random chemical you probably don't need into the brain... in small amounts though. 5-HTP is hardly effective anyways, as it cant cross the Brain Blood Barrier, so as a result it's like 10% effective or something stupid.

Just eat a lot of turkey and nuts/seeds and you'll get plenty of L-Tryptophan (which makes 5-HTP, which makes serotonin) the natural, healthy way.

If you must use it though, be sure not to take any for 48 hours before and after MDMA, again, so you don't risk Serotonin Syndrome or other nasty reactions.


mistymisty0931 said:
Oh okay, but I don't have anything else right now :( Should I not take those then?
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Look into a Marquis reagent, they're only $25 from dancesafe.org that will let you know if you have pure MDMA or not. You definitely don't want to take adulterated pills, it gives the pressers the idea that it's OK to sell us things that aren't MDMA as ecstasy... and that leads to piperazine pills
 
Yes I know I should have read those side effects before taking it..I'm never taking it again. Lol it is better to just eat a lot of nuts and bananas than take something unusual.

Anyway, the event is tonight and I'm debating whether I should take the guccis again or not. I got them back in June, so it's not the new ones. My friends who took them last time had no trouble sleeping at all. Two of them also took 5-HTP afterwards but still slept fine. Idk :( I'm just gonna avoid 5-HTP altogether.

Look into a Marquis reagent, they're only $25 from dancesafe.org that will let you know if you have pure MDMA or not. You definitely don't want to take adulterated pills, it gives the pressers the idea that it's OK to sell us things that aren't MDMA as ecstasy... and that leads to piperazine pills
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Yes I should, but I can't do that by tonight lol
 
MDMA and 5-HTP causes Serotonin Syndrome, a possibly DEADLY condition. It is absolutely not safe for anyone to take it while rolling.
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There is no recorded case of serotonin syndrome caused by combination of MDMA and 5HTP. Its theoretically possible but in my opinion not a guaranteed outcome. I believe this suppliment is relatively safe. Clearly be cautious but serotonin syndrome is a theorized outcome by no means a guarantee.

L-Tryptophan is found in nature (turkey, fish, bananas), and is converted naturally to 5-HTP by the brain.. when you just take 5-HTP, you skip that whole process and just introduce a random chemical you probably don't need into the brain...
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?? 5HTP is also in food and can also occur naturally. The argument to suggest Ltryptophan is better is because some suggest the body can regulate the serotonin more effectively because one more metabolic process is required. However, there is also a lot to suggest the body can happily deal with an excess of 5HTP and doesnt necessarily convert it to serotonin. Its not a random chemical that you dont need in the brain this is not correct.

Just eat a lot of turkey and nuts/seeds and you'll get plenty of L-Tryptophan (which makes 5-HTP, which makes serotonin) the natural, healthy way.
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Natural is good but its slower. For pre loading and post loading I would recommend the supps instead. In my opinion the foods are better for more long term requirements such as long term comedown etc.

If you must use it though, be sure not to take any for 48 hours before and after MDMA, again, so you don't risk Serotonin Syndrome or other nasty reactions.
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A reaction is possible but this outcome is not a guarantee. Its not this clear cut.

Yes I know I should have read those side effects before taking it..I'm never taking it again. Lol it is better to just eat a lot of nuts and bananas than take something unusual.
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Be aware that it might be the 5HTP but it is also possible it might not be. Looking at the pills as suggested by Folley is also a must. You could always consider an Ltryptophan supp instead of 5HTP. Just be aware nuts bananas etc is slower to convert than Ltrypt and Ltrypt is slower conversion than 5HTP.

Anyway, the event is tonight and I'm debating whether I should take the guccis again or not. I got them back in June, so it's not the new ones. My friends who took them last time had no trouble sleeping at all. Two of them also took 5-HTP afterwards but still slept fine. Idk I'm just gonna avoid 5-HTP altogether.
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As you can see one persons joy can be anothers poison. I would tread carefully with these pills. I have friends who can take BZP and are fine if I take it I get a 6 month come down. 5HTP might be the cause but there is also a chance it might be whats in the pill.

Personally if I saw a pill with glitter in it I would run a mile.

Yes I should, but I can't do that by tonight lol
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Unless you have access to a chem lab you could get a chem student friend to make you some :)

If you are limited with no test then keep the dose low and see how you go. Alternatively axe the pills swig some beer and find a hot girl to play with :D
 
Thanks for your help!haha if anything my friend might have some mollies. But yeah I will try to only take half or one if I do decide to roll :) Oh btw I'm a girl LOL
 
Oh a quick update:

So I took half of a gucci yesterday, and I got the same effects as last time! You guys were right, I shouldn't have blamed the 5-HTP. Lol now I know not to ever take those again. Guess I'm sensitive to amps, because my boyfriend was able to sleep right away.
 
Lol now I know not to ever take those again.
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Glitter, silly shapes, bright gel caps etc always makes alarm bells ring for me.

Guess I'm sensitive to amps, because my boyfriend was able to sleep right away.
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Might be pipe. You must get a test kit. With some careful tests you can understand quite a bit.

many thanks for the update on what happened. Well done for only taking half :)
 
^ The Guccis are infamous for having varying methamphetamine content. Some have almost no amp, some are almost entirely meth, and some are a mix of the two.


Yeah, I would have just stayed FAR away from them if I was you. I hate meth in my pill, I'll never take speed with MDMA again.. it kills the empathy
 
Damn, my friend told me they were good. Guess can't trust people -_- Anyways, I'm gonna try to get pure mollys next time :) Thanks guys for the heads up!
 
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