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"I found out...that using MDMA more often than four times a year was not wise"

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"I found out...that using MDMA more often than four times a year was not wise"

I see the Shulgin "4x a year" maximum for MDMA quoted often, but there are probably many newer members that have not seen this in context. (And if you do not know who Sasha and Ann Shulgin are, be sure to read up on them! They are much smarter and more experienced than most any of us will ever hope to be so don't take their words lightly!)

Ann: ......... "I found out, for myself, that using MDMA more often than four times a year was not wise. I used MDMA as a writing drug for about a year. Once a week, I would do a great deal of writing using MDMA; it was a wonderful experience for me to use it that way, but I discovered after that kind of use that I had to go up in dosage to get an effect, and the effect became less and less the magical insight; it was more and more the stimulant effects, and for many years now, I have been totally unable to use it. Not only because now it is illegal, but because I used it once a week, and that was too often. Nobody knew that, then, but now I would advise anyone who wants to use MDMA not to take it more than 4 times a year if you want to continue to get the best effects from it, otherwise you risk losing its effects entirely and permanently.

source: http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/shulgin_alexander/shulgin_alexander_interview2.shtml
 
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I used MDMA as a writing drug for about a year. Once a week,
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Well, there is the problem right there.

Once a week is VERY OFTEN in my books!

All new users who are somewhat educated start around every 30 days. I myself follow every 60-90 days although ive not taken it since the start of May due to health issues which i am currently trying (but failing) to resolve

I noticed no decline in 'the magic' whatsoever when i waited at least 60 days, followed a high tryptophan diet, exercised , got sunlight and didnt drink alcohol from only 100mg of crystal mdma (high purity)

Just because you have access to a source does not mean you should be taking it on a regular basis like that, not even as a tool for any purpose really.
 
What's interesting is that if you considered all the research saying how harmful MDMA is, you would think that anyone that took it once a week for a year would be a complete vegetable!

But Sam, you may have not noticed a decline in the magic whatsoever, but that is the point. You can use MDMA frequently and not notice any loss of magic until eventually--maybe far in the future in your case--you do. And then you look back and say, "oh, yeah, maybe I should have spaced it out more..."
 
How can one use MDMA as anything but a tool? An inanimate thing, produced by human artifice, in order to achieve certain goals. Whether for facilitating conversation or dancing or sex, I would say that using Ecstasy is using a tool. This academic aside notwithstanding, you respond to the OP, when the OP is in fact quoting Ann Shulgin. She was far from uneducated about drugs, but her use was at the very vanguard of human MDMA use, the information we now take for granted was not available to pioneers such as the Shulgins.
 
Im sure many people unwittingly use mdma as a 'tool' but what i was trying to say is, Whether you are raving every weekend on it or writing something constructive informative and pure genius, IT SHOULD NOT be used weekly.

We are worth more than a chemical! Depression and anxiety can lead to suicide.
 
IT SHOULD NOT be used weekly.
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No doubt, but that prescription seems quite detached from the ontological question of MDMA's having the quality of toolhood.
 
How long would it take to write a book or several articles when you can only take it every 2-3 months though?

That's like kids breaking up from school for summer holidays then expecting them to carry on with the last lesson after the summer holidays are over and remember what and where they were up to.
Wouldn't be fresh in my mind at all.
 
Some of my clubbing gang pretty much do it every week - even if they dont go clubbing. Easy 40+ doses a year - and some of those doses are 300-400mg over a night. Personally I like a 30 day break, I've had a 27 day break and doing some tommorrow. Then I'll have a 21 day break before my next night.
 
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