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I figured out a really good way to IV opana

to ivdogma i figurued out how to iv opana

my doc wants to switch my brother to opana instead of dilordid we split them but he also gets methodone which holds us the three weeks after the k4s are gone the doc won't give methodone with the opana. my question can we really shoot them? i can't exactly understand your method. can anyone give an experianced based method how the boot them?
 
ChemicalSmile said:
Is this a real risk? I snort opana left and right..... 8o 8o 8o
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Yeah, it can happen. You breathe through your nose. Particles that are stuck in it could definitely have potential of getting into your lungs.
 
IcarusRisen said:
Yeah, it can happen. You breathe through your nose. Particles that are stuck in it could definitely have potential of getting into your lungs.
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when you snort the particles get stuck to the outside of your lungs ,the lungs can deal with stuff outside but when you iv the particles get stuck on the inside of the tissue (all blood passes through the lungs to absorb oxygen)when it gets lodged in the tissue the body sees it as a foreign substance and surround it because it is not souable it walls it in with scar tissue if you do this enough the lungs become one big scar and cant do there job of exchanging carbon dioxide for oxygen

so while snorting cant be good for you it is not nearly as bad as IV
 
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ivdogma1 said:
Okay, so I recently got a few opanas from my friend and been expereminting. I only had a few pills so i had to be frugal.



Remeber the palladone incident with ethanol making it bust the time rls? I read up on the opana RX info and it says ethanol does it to opana too pretty bad. So i take my 20mg opana ER, put it in a spoon with 1 ml iso prop.. Oxymorphone is non alchohol soluable. It will kinda sit there and break up. I add a bit of heat to make sure everything kinda melts down, and 10 minutes later I am left with a sludge of powder in the spood. I think add that sludge to a 3ml rig with .5 cc of cotton packed in it (already wetted). I add the sliudge, the quickly add 1cc of water in the back. Shake it for one or two seconds, then squirt it out. It comes out EXACTLY LIKE WATER. NO SLUDGE WHATSOEVER. WHAT. SO. .EVER.


The resulting liquid tastes bitter. Man, that sure wasn't too hard to beat.



edit: BE CAREFUL CAREFUL CAREFUL. IT IS ABOUT 5 TIMES STRONGER IVed than when taken as directed. IF YOU SLAM A WHOLE ONE WITH NO TOLERENCE YOU WILL DIE.
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1) Ok so ethanol is said to work on them. Then why did you use ISO? Not all alcohols are the same...ethanol and ISO are very different.

2) If you didn't use 100% ISO (and I doubt you did since it is hard to get), then all of your oxymorphone actually did dissolve since it is mixed with water. The stuff that was left undissolved would be fillers.

So basically what you have done is the equivalent of crushing it up, adding water and filtering.
 
So....what about the time release mechanism 'getting into your lungs'? The coating is nearly impossible to accidentally crush up - are you talking about some internal mechanism?
 
i guess it should be a sticky at the top of OD --the coating on pills has nothing to do with he time release
 
So Opana ER's have the "matrix" type internal time release? Why do they put that super tough rhino skin coating on them?
 
OPANA ER (oxymorphone hydrochloride) extended-release, is a semi-synthetic opioid analgesic supplied in 5 mg, 10 mg, 20 mg, and 40 mg tablet strengths for oral administration. The tablet strength describes the amount of oxymorphone hydrochloride per tablet. The tablets contain the following inactive ingredients: hypromellose, iron oxide black, methylparaben, propylene glycol, silicified microcrystalline cellulose, sodium stearyl fumarate, titanium dioxide, and triacetin. The 5 mg, 10 mg and 20 mg tablets also contain macrogol, and polysorbate 80. In addition, the 5 mg tablets contain iron oxide red. The 10 mg tablets contain FD&C yellow No. 6. The 20 mg tablets
contain FD&C blue No. 1, FD&C yellow No. 6, and D&C yellow No. 10. The 40 mg tablets contain FD&C yellow No. 6, D&C yellow No. 10, and lactose monohydrate.





sounds pretty much like any other time release


on a side note 40mg opana wow thats a lot of dope
 
Well that list of inactives means nothing to a naive mind like mine. I still don't understand what sort of time release mechanism the pills have.

On a side note though, I've gotten success crushing up about 5mg's of the 40 mg ER's finely and railing. But even when I crush it up VERY finely and take the utmost care in snorting, the onset takes about 30 minutes (i feel it in about 5 minutes, but it creeps terribly slowly from then on - I'm only really high at about 1 hour, and the peak is somewhere at 1.5 hrs).

I feel like I'm defeating the time release because it all lasts only about 3 hours, after which I'm completely back to baseline (no residual feelings even). But then again, the onset is SO long, even though I'm railing finely crushed powder the size of 4 matchstick heads. So what's the deal?
 
methylparaben=wax

silicified microcrystalline cellulose=this is the part that locks up the drug until your stomach dissolves it


most of the other shit does not matter for the time release
 
So by crushing and railing it I'm not fully breaking the time release?
 
Man these places need to be more informed. The extraction of any opiod from a pill is very simple and the results are nothing but the pure opiod.

Chloroform will extract any opiod in its base form. Most medications are in an acid form such as Sulphate, HCL, Phosphate, etc. These salts are not soluble in chloroform but their base forms are VERY soluble.

First disolve crushed pills in water and add sodium carbonate to the solution until it is at a ph of 11. Use sodium carbonate not sodium bicarbonate. Sodium carbonate is soda ash which is used for hard water applications to make detergent work better. You can buy the Arm & Hammer Brand anywhere they sell detergent and it is 100% pure.

Once you have turned the opiod into a base, filter (vacuum filter works the fastest or put a coffee filter into a large 10cc syringe and push through, but not to hard as to puncture the filter) into a pyrex dish. All glass pie pans are pyrex and work great because of large surface area. If you are concerned about the fillers, the coffee filter will filter most of them out but you also do an extra step and run the filtered solution through a .22 micron filter.

Now evaporate the water and you will have a powder that has very little in it besides the opiod base.

To get the opiod 100% pure, you will now need to dissolve the dried powder in chloroform. Some opiod bases are hygroscopic meaning they will absorb water. In these cases you can only get a powder if you dry the mixture with some heat. This is not neccesary though as you will eventually change the base back into a salt. Just want to point out that it may not be a dry powder.

Once the base is dissolved in the chloroform, run through clean filter again, letting it drain into the cleaned pyrex dish. Run some more chloroform through the filter/mixture two three or as many times as you want to insure you extract all of the opiod. Now put the dish outside and let the chloroform evaporate and you will have 100% pure opiod base left.

You can use the base orally, but you will need to turn it back into a salt for any other method. To do this, you must now dissolve the base into an acid. The type of acid depends on the opiod. Example Oxymorphone is normally Oxymorphine HCL so you must cook it in Hydrochloric acid. Codeine Phosphate is made with Phosphoric acid, Morphine Sulphate with Sulfuric acid, etc. After dissolving into the appropriate acid you must cook it in a reflux device for apporoximately 60mins at the boiling temperature of the acid. A reflux device is simply a device that boils a liquid and then collects the vapor condensation and puts it back into the device. You can also do this step without a reflux device, but then you have the vapors to worry about and you will also need to use more acid.

Now cool acid solution, mix with water, let separate, extract the water layer, evaporate the water and there you have 100% opiod extraction.
 
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