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I feel sorry for you guys....

Saying good pure mdma is available everywhere in the US is just plain ignorance. It is not. And saying this really shows me how many people are out there who think they have mdma that really don't. And, it's not surprising, when the test kits are so easy to fool.

The "scene" or, more importantly, the lack of "scene" in nyc is evidence alone that there is without a doubt not a steady clean supply of mdma. Only those who have been here since there was a steady REAL supply of mdma know what I'm talking about. So, to those who say there is, all I can say is please stop with the bullshit, its OBVIOUS.
 
Folley said:
No, you're wrong dude.


There is an OBVIOUS shortage of MDMA in the US, you can't deny this. Many people are still able to get their hands on high quality MDMA, but a lot of it isn't from the US.
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I didnt say it was produced here, I said that there was no shortage in the US supply.
I didnt know you were the US drug scene statistician, ill back off.
 
If dealers in the USA are selling fake pills and methylone, why do people go back to them unless people think its Mandy? I've never tried methylone so I don't know if the effects are similar.
 
ANYONE can get good MD/BEANS if they look in the right places. Google is your friend guys. street pills are getting way too sketch. too many copy cat pills. too many adulterants. too risky all together. i love the internet =D
 
SF2011 said:
If dealers in the USA are selling fake pills and methylone, why do people go back to them unless people think its Mandy? I've never tried methylone so I don't know if the effects are similar.
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yeah from what i hear the effects are very similar to the real deal. so yeah i think a lot of noobs are getting fooled by similar substances and then think its a normal roll. the whole situation is fucked in the US. definitly a shortage of good MDMA in the US. i happen to live in Cali an i can still see the shortage of MDMA here compared to a few years ago it was everywhere. nowa days its hard to come by, even in Cali.
 
Bomboclat said:
I said that there was no shortage in the US supply.
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But there is lol... a giant shortage... and it's because it's not produced here anymore. There isn't a shortage if you know where to look... but for 90% of the population, they aren't so lucky.



SF2011 said:
I've never tried methylone so I don't know if the effects are similar.
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Methylone is like a super weak version of MDMA... it's really the best adulterant because it's the closest to MDMA, but is still no where near as good as the real thing. Many people can be fooled by it though... even those that have taken MDMA before
 
@folley...you are, not surprisingly, once again wrong. Test kits are easily fooled champ. I guess I'm gonna have to outline it for you once again so here goes...a strong positive response for mdma (ie marquis straight to black/purple) does NOT give an indication of purity. It only indicates the presence of an md substance. As such, there could still be a very heavy inactive cut. The chemists making product nowadays know how to cut product to get the strongest test response with the least actual mdma. I test new batches of molly and pills every week, so no, my kit is not broken.
 
That's completely different from the test kits being "fooled" dude.


That means your buying from shitty dealers who cut it down themselves, the MDMA is perfectly fine, until your dealers get it that is... It's still MDMA, so it's not like they somehow got meth to react black on a reagent.
 
Well, if by shitty dealers, you mean I'm not buying directly from the chemist, then yes at this point you're right. However, the problem is not the suppliers. It's that there's a demand for subpar product. My dealer moves substantial product, so there is a high demand for it. Until the demand for weak powder stops, the supply will keep chopping it up. I don't see things changing anytime soon. Too many people out there who don't know what a good roll is. Take for example this past weekend. One of my people comes through with some molly to test that's "that super molly" or some bullshit line like that. Of course it tests for methylone.

The problem is if you put forth a blind "taste" test of powder and had a weak batch (ie chopped up with inactive mdma), a batch of methylone, and a batch of pipes, most people these days could not pick out the mdma powder. Why? They have no basis for comparison. More and more people have never had a strong dose of actual mdma and when they do, it's so strong they think they took speed or something cuase they're used to 6-apb or mcpp or tfmpp or bzp or mdpv or whatfuckingever.
 
I love the fact that if I needed to I could walk up to the shady looking fellow going from tent to tent at a festival and ask him for a good ol' bad of Mandy and I know that at worst all I'll get is .9 of actual real MDMA. If he was selling sub-par product someone would have called him out on it being shit and he would have a black eye.
 
I could see that causing problems for me lol... it's fucking hard for me not to roll now that I have some... but since I couldn't find it since like September it made taking breaks a lot easier for me lmao. I don't see myself being able to be offered free MDMA the way I can with piperazines :p



I find that the purest drugs come to you though... you don't find them. The best crystal MDA and LSD (ok it was liquid... but you could fucking see crystals build up on the vials) from around here have pretty much fallen in my lap. The stuff I find when I go looking around here.... well shitty coke, pure meth, Mexican black tar heroin or enough piperazines to supply half the state are the most likely candidates :|
 
SF2011 said:
@Sunset,

Dealers make more than double shotting MD in the uk, its risky business but its where the money is. Some people dont even do it for the profit. Is this saying that all mexicans are greedy?
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yeah shit loads of dollar in shifting MD, dunno why they do 0.7g-0.8g the ounces are cheap enough to do full gs and still make pretty much double, and you'd get shit loads more business.

dealers today.
 
Cz_x said:
If he was selling sub-par product someone would have called him out on it being shit and he would have a black eye.
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haha true that i think dealers are less feared here because we don't have guns really
 
Here in central Texas pills and MDMA crystal/powder is becoming easier to get. I do agree the supply was short here for a while but every once in a while something good would pop up. Now things are looking better and they are everywhere.
 
Glad I dont gotta worry. I dont feel sorry for us guys, we are resourceful. We once all were on the lookout for mdma. If you really want it get a kit and go searching.
 
It seems strange to me that safrole should be difficult to obtain in the US, particularly as the climate in the US allows certain plants with useful levels of safrole to grow. Maybe it will become possible to synthesize safrole one day....
 
I don't know what y'all are talking about. MD substances are aplenty here!! Madness to say otherwise!
 
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