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SF2011

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From reading around this forum over the last year or so, I really feel sorry for the guys in parts of the USA and Canada who have never tried or can never get decent MDMA.

There is so much decent Mandy or MDMA (molly) crystal in the uk at the moment. I have just been to one festival in the uk that you find a lot of shit at. But I dont think I've been offered so much MDMA in my life. I'm saying lets say 15+ times in one evening, and that probably double or triple than what was about last year. And 80% of these were willing to give samples/tasters, with all of it bieng crystal. Colours and purity ranging from brown,white,grey,yellow,tanned.

It's the same with clubs in the uk as well, if you go to the right places you have no trouble finding MD, I'd say it's taking over mkat, coke and even ketamine. Anyone from the uk can agree with that I think.

I'm just saying this because they're are so many posts of people saying 'what are in these pills?' and people saying they can't get proper md. I do feel sorry for the parts of the us that say they find it hard, and why is it so scarce in the US? And so popular in the little island of the uk? I've even known people struggle to get rid of all of it because there is so much around.

The US is a bigger country.. and theres nothing about it seems. (In certain parts)

Any reason why?


EDIT: I dont live in the USA and i am simply asking why parts of the USA struggle so much. I am in no way proud, however i do appreciate what is available in the uk.
 
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When Mexico sees there's a huge market/profit potential, they'll start to do more MD Labs than Meth Labs, then maybe the US will have decent MD. Canada's MD is shit too (Most likely you will get pipes or something laced with Meth and PMMA).

And you shouldn't feel sorry, there's a way to get NL molly in North America or anywhere in the world...
 
it is so hard to find in america simply because of greed. People would rather make fake pills out of cheap substances then spend money on real molly and take the time to cut it down and press it into pills. as long as people pay money for their pills dealers could care less what's really in them or if the substances in them are toxic. The land of the free has turned into the land of the quick buck. I envy the uk!
 
Thats a fair point, Surely MD makes more profit then meth... from what ive heard meth is dirt cheap in the US.

As far as im aware i dont think alot of the MD in the Uk is imported.
And im feeling sorry because i dont know how many posts ive read of people finding it hard to get proper MD or pills.
 
@Sunset,

Dealers make more than double shotting MD in the uk, its risky business but its where the money is. Some people dont even do it for the profit. Is this saying that all mexicans are greedy?
 
There's plenty of MDMA all over the US.

Giant hotspots like California, Chicago and hell even Utah are covered in MDMA, both pills and crystals... in the rest of the country, things are a bit worse... basically, all the pills are SHIT. A lot of the molly too... but there is still PLENTY of good stuff to be found.


Take New York, there is literally no MDxx to be found in pills on the East Coast... but there is a ton of rock MDMA going around. It's the same in Washington really, you'd be lucky as SHIT to find a good pill.... but there is crystal MDMA to be found everywhere!



The problem is that these other drugs are so much cheaper than MDMA... and us Americans don't like to pay for quality. So the dealers realize that they can sell these fake drug easier and make more money, so obviously, they do it!


If more of the newer generation of rollers had tried MDMA and knew to get the real stuff, it would all work itself out.. but since they think that methylone is MDMA, they don't even know there's a problem.





It wasn't that long ago that the UK had a drought of it's own ya know. But I would venture to guess that you guys are getting a shit load of crystal shipped over from the NL... they can easily get Sassafras from China, while in the US it's VERY hard to get enough safrole to cook up a batch....

I would say that's the major reason no one wants to make MDMA here... too much work for not enough profit
 
Folley said:
There's plenty of MDMA all over the US.

Giant hotspots like California, Chicago and hell even Utah are covered in MDMA, both pills and crystals... in the rest of the country, things are a bit worse... basically, all the pills are SHIT. A lot of the molly too... but there is still PLENTY of good stuff to be found.


Take New York, there is literally no MDxx to be found in pills on the East Coast... but there is a ton of rock MDMA going around. It's the same in Washington really, you'd be lucky as SHIT to find a good pill.... but there is crystal MDMA to be found everywhere!



The problem is that these other drugs are so much cheaper than MDMA... and us Americans don't like to pay for quality. So the dealers realize that they can sell these fake drug easier and make more money, so obviously, they do it!


If more of the newer generation of rollers had tried MDMA and knew to get the real stuff, it would all work itself out.. but since they think that methylone is MDMA, they don't even know there's a problem.





It wasn't that long ago that the UK had a drought of it's own ya know. But I would venture to guess that you guys are getting a shit load of crystal shipped over from the NL... they can easily get Sassafras from China, while in the US it's VERY hard to get enough safrole to cook up a batch....

I would say that's the major reason no one wants to make MDMA here... too much work for not enough profit
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Good point, im only going from the basis of what i read around here about what people get. I know there was a massive drought of MD in the uk a couple years ago, and i didnt really do it then. Not alot of people do pills in the UK anymore because of the crystal it seems
 
yeah it seems the UK has a better supply of MD than the US. but like Folley said, it doesnt even matter. anyone can get good pills or molly now.
 
There is no MDMA shortage in the US, and we get a lot of the same shit you guys get in the UK from larger global suppliers. But I mean if you want to go on feeling proud, we wont stop you.
 
Bomboclat said:
There is no MDMA shortage in the US, and we get a lot of the same shit you guys get in the UK from larger global suppliers. But I mean if you want to go on feeling proud, we wont stop you.
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Are you serious? With that many posts you think you would know better.

Only cause you know someone doesn't mean the majority of people do. There is certainly a drought of quality mdma in the usa.
 
Bomboclat said:
There is no MDMA shortage in the US, and we get a lot of the same shit you guys get in the UK from larger global suppliers. But I mean if you want to go on feeling proud, we wont stop you.
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This. OP, I don't know what part of the U.S. you're talking about here, but high quality pure MDMA has always been available where I live.
 
I dont live in the us and I am in no way saying I know the usa's supply. But just by looking in some threads I see a lot of people moaning saying they can't get good stuff in certain parts of the us, or there's a lot of fake substances.

And because of this I wondered why there may be more availability in certain parts of the world that I wouldn't expect....

And ahahha I'm not feeling proud at all.. I am glad whats available in the uk though.
 
SF2011 said:
@Sunset,

Dealers make more than double shotting MD in the uk, its risky business but its where the money is. Some people dont even do it for the profit. Is this saying that all mexicans are greedy?
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I wasn't referencing mexicans as the greedy ones, I meant the small time dealers all around the united states are greedy. mexico's top cash cows are methamphetamine and cocaine, they have yet to move into the mdma market ( though I believe they definitely should) and because of this most mdma that is imported is immediately cut to shit and pressed. this results in most pills being extremely low quality and in turn causes many fake pills to hit the market to keep up with demand that low quality pills can't meet
 
That makes sense, so why is it so prevalent in the netherlands as well then? And why does it alot of it come from there?
 
Bomboclat said:
There is no MDMA shortage in the US, and we get a lot of the same shit you guys get in the UK from larger global suppliers. But I mean if you want to go on feeling proud, we wont stop you.
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No, you're wrong dude.


There is an OBVIOUS shortage of MDMA in the US, you can't deny this. Many people are still able to get their hands on high quality MDMA, but a lot of it isn't from the US.


Safrole and other precursors are heavily controlled in the US, not so much in Europe or other places. So again... your wrong lol. There is a pretty giant shortage of MDMA all over the country, people can buy ecstasy easily, but GOOD LUCK finding MDMA.


You're in Cali, they have always had plenty of MDMA.... but in places like New York, Florida, Washington, and especially in the Central US, finding MDMA is like finding diamonds.

People haven't seen MDMA in years in Florida... and I don't mean one person, I mean the majority of the state.





SF2011 said:
That makes sense, so why is it so prevalent in the netherlands as well then? And why does it alot of it come from there?
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Again, it comes down to safrole and other precursors. In the US, they are HEAVILY controlled.... you can't get it unless you have some special Cambodian connection. A shit load of safrole is sent to the NL, in fact that's like it's first stop.... so they just have more chemists, chemicals and a larger market for pure MDMA than the US does. If we were as close to the NL and the UK is we would get all the same stuff too
 
@Folley, why is it MDMA is more available in certain states though? And in the states where it isnt so available is this causing an increase in fake or low quality pills?
 
The U.S. is a very large place. I imagine the differences in availability of MDMA in the U.S. regions are similar to the differences regions of Europe?

I fail to see the HR value of this thread. I'm sure there are parts of Europe or Asia where MDMA is easy to find and there are parts of those places where MDMA is hard to find and there are lots of fake pills. So, what's your point, OP?
 
California has always been home of the hippy movement lol, that's where a majority of the countries LSD is made... and where there is LSD, there is MDMA.


Plus states on the Coast are able to get imports easier, while states in the middle of the US aren't able to get them as easy... Cali gets a ton of MDMA pills from Mexico for example... and Chicago has had a long standing "Mint" press that consistently puts out dank beans... basically if you're not getting pills from those two states (or over places in the world...) and you're not getting crystal MDMA, you have little hope of finding something good..


It's still around though, definitely. It's always around... you just need to know the right people, or go to the right places





NeighborhoodThreat said:
I fail to see the HR value of this thread. I'm sure there are parts of Europe or Asia where MDMA is easy to find and there are parts of those places where MDMA is hard to find and there are lots of fake pills. So, what's your point, OP?
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You sir know very little about the current scene then.

If you buy a pill in the US, it's probably going to be piperazines. If you buy crystal, it's probably methylone.... this isn't in just a couple places in the US, it's nation wide. Some places do better than others, but in general, there is very little MDMA to be found
 
SF2011 said:
@Folley, why is it MDMA is more available in certain states though? And in the states where it isnt so available is this causing an increase in fake or low quality pills?
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Exactly right, imagine you're a dealer in a state where mdma is not available. You have hundreds of people willing to pay **no prices** a piece for pills and you want to make money off of it. If you get a bunch of fake pills that look legit are you going to tell your customers they're not real? Of course not, you'd sell them as quick as you could and tell everybody they're "triple stacked super amazing pills" so they give you their money. The mdma shortage in the US is causing this to happen all throughout the country and the instances of fake pills grows higher every week

**mod edit - no prices - the toad**
 
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