Mental Health I feel really awkuard around people, what can I do against it?

i just want to say i have been suffering with social anxiety quite a bit i was rx'ed benzos for a long time and i got off them a few months ago.... i am still struggling... i am honestly scared to even try and make new friends yet i crave more real life friends its just become difficult to put myself out there.... i guess its also a matter of physical self confidence for me....
 
i just want to say i have been suffering with social anxiety quite a bit i was rx'ed benzos for a long time and i got off them a few months ago.... i am still struggling... i am honestly scared to even try and make new friends yet i crave more real life friends its just become difficult to put myself out there.... i guess its also a matter of physical self confidence for me....
You have to Push yourself at least that helps for me :)
 
I definitely hear what you there, I've always felt extremely out of place whereever I went unless there was a shitload of drugs involved and people looked up to me for my vast knowledge about them. Never really had any problems to acquire friends at all, but the social awkwardness is a perma-guest in my brain, even when I come off as most confident. What people said about weed is in MY experience true. It makes social anxiety so much worse. I've only ever smoked at nighttime, but even the "hangover/afterglow" can increase social anxiety 100-fold. Worst drug ever when it comes to that, though some people seem to be spared from that "side effect".

Anyway, if you want pure practical advice... Get into social engineering, learn how to dominate a group. There's a shitload of pickup artist and NLP reading to do on the internet, it's fucking crazy. Teach yourself some basics about nutrition and exercising, start pumping iron (really lightly though, you're 15 and don't wanna do any damage), eat adequately and respect your body or if you don't, respect it's looks at least lol. It sounds pretty dull and lame, but this shit really works if you have the motivation for it. I'm not saying get on androgens and turn into a monster, just keep a healthy appearance. People love that. People are scared away by insecurity and friend-seeking behaviour, you might have been displaying a lot of that and had the very problem you're tring to solve working against it's own solution.
I really know how lame this plan sounds, trust me, but it's a sad truth that these are the things people go for. We all just want a strong social network giving us security and a person that displays health and social skills, especially at your age where money comes second, means social security for people. If you decide to go down that road (close to all bodybuilders have once found themselves in a similar spot as you btw), you can establish a stable sense of self worth for yourself during an episode of life which is critical for everything that comes after. Just be aware you might be scaring off some of the intellectual crowd, but who needs superficial judgmental fucks like that anyway, right? ;)

Oh and regarding seeking a psychiatrist... DEFINITELY go for other options first. There's so much to be done about how you are feeling just by teaching yourself about how people roll. I remember the Venusian Arts Handbook written by a whackjob called Mystery being a key read for me once lol. I couldn't believe how easy it suddenly seemed to get pussy. I do admit the social anxiety lasted through all that, but part of that is really a physiological reaction to how well you are navigating in your social environment. Not very well I'd assume.

When it comes to seeking therapy, that'd be a better place to start imho. In which case you should probably prefer behaviour therapy if you want relief of social anxiety over figuring out what moment in childhood makes you weep the hardest.

Edit: I just read DXM triggered said anxiety? For an extended period of time, long past the actual intoxication? Might want to check up on diagnostic criteria of bipolar disorder, too. There's tons of tiny symptoms and abnormalities hinting at it and you're probably best of reading up on it yourself. While I definitely wouldn't consider going on meds if such a condition should actually be diagnosable, it might help you to understand yourself and potential future "changes" you experience much better and also allow you to cope with them or avoid their exacerbation. I might just be reading my own history into you here, since it took me 30 years to gain a diagnosis despite being quite knowledgable in the field and having been in treatment for a whopping 8 years, 4 of them spent in multiple weekly therapy sessions without reaching a diagnosis. I considered everything, but not THAT.

Edit 2: DO NOT get on benzos, even if some moronic doctor tries to prescribe them. Imho your reply should come as a punch in the face to him. Too many lives ruined by those god-awful sedatives. Ask anyone on this board who has been on them and they will tell you the same thing. They just don't help very well in the long run or can even be counter-productive.

edit: me silently thinks youll definitely become a bad-ass bodybuilder :D
 
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I definitely hear what you there, I've always felt extremely out of place whereever I went unless there was a shitload of drugs involved and people looked up to me for my vast knowledge about them. Never really had any problems to acquire friends at all, but the social awkwardness is a perma-guest in my brain, even when I come off as most confident. What people said about weed is in MY experience true. It makes social anxiety so much worse. I've only ever smoked at nighttime, but even the "hangover/afterglow" can increase social anxiety 100-fold. Worst drug ever when it comes to that, though some people seem to be spared from that "side effect".

Anyway, if you want pure practical advice... Get into social engineering, learn how to dominate a group. There's a shitload of pickup artist and NLP reading to do on the internet, it's fucking crazy. Teach yourself some basics about nutrition and exercising, start pumping iron (really lightly though, you're 15 and don't wanna do any damage), eat adequately and respect your body or if you don't, respect it's looks at least lol. It sounds pretty dull and lame, but this shit really works if you have the motivation for it. I'm not saying get on androgens and turn into a monster, just keep a healthy appearance. People love that. People are scared away by insecurity and friend-seeking behaviour, you might have been displaying a lot of that and had the very problem you're tring to solve working against it's own solution.
I really know how lame this plan sounds, trust me, but it's a sad truth that these are the things people go for. We all just want a strong social network giving us security and a person that displays health and social skills, especially at your age where money comes second, means social security for people. If you decide to go down that road (close to all bodybuilders have once found themselves in a similar spot as you btw), you can establish a stable sense of self worth for yourself during an episode of life which is critical for everything that comes after. Just be aware you might be scaring off some of the intellectual crowd, but who needs superficial judgmental fucks like that anyway, right? ;)

Oh and regarding seeking a psychiatrist... DEFINITELY go for other options first. There's so much to be done about how you are feeling just by teaching yourself about how people roll. I remember the Venusian Arts Handbook written by a whackjob called Mystery being a key read for me once lol. I couldn't believe how easy it suddenly seemed to get pussy. I do admit the social anxiety lasted through all that, but part of that is really a physiological reaction to how well you are navigating in your social environment. Not very well I'd assume.

When it comes to seeking therapy, that'd be a better place to start imho. In which case you should probably prefer behaviour therapy if you want relief of social anxiety over figuring out what moment in childhood makes you weep the hardest.

Edit: I just read DXM triggered said anxiety? For an extended period of time, long past the actual intoxication? Might want to check up on diagnostic criteria of bipolar disorder, too. There's tons of tiny symptoms and abnormalities hinting at it and you're probably best of reading up on it yourself. While I definitely wouldn't consider going on meds if such a condition should actually be diagnosable, it might help you to understand yourself and potential future "changes" you experience much better and also allow you to cope with them or avoid their exacerbation. I might just be reading my own history into you here, since it took me 30 years to gain a diagnosis despite being quite knowledgable in the field and having been in treatment for a whopping 8 years, 4 of them spent in multiple weekly therapy sessions without reaching a diagnosis. I considered everything, but not THAT.

Edit 2: DO NOT get on benzos, even if some moronic doctor tries to prescribe them. Imho your reply should come as a punch in the face to him. Too many lives ruined by those god-awful sedatives. Ask anyone on this board who has been on them and they will tell you the same thing. They just don't help very well in the long run or can even be counter-productive.

edit: me silently thinks youll definitely become a bad-ass bodybuilder :D
I lolled up the book you mentioned sounds really interested even if I'm only 15 you'd be surprised how erarly these kind of things start around here :D the product seems kind of expensive though. RobotRipping had a good idea to "Neuro-linguistic programming" which I find pretty damn interesting after all I want to study neurology.

I love working out it works great I have been doing it for 1 1/2 weeks now go to the finesse studi four times a week go running twice just got back from a 17km run usally I du twice a week go play tennis once a week and to free running/tricking/Parkur as one also twice a weeks so I have quit a program running at the moment I also keep an healthy diet which I've been doing for 4 days now no sweets which is damn hard but i gotta do it :)

Okay back to Dxm I only did it 6 times but thanks to a side effect that appears to take place when you combine it with ib-profein I was high for 4 weeks in a really low sate like first pletau if even. I only did a second pletau high with about 210mg of powdered pure dextromethorphan. And believe me I have various theory's and what happend and what it does to your body. I was extremely scared during that period because of all the unknown side effects and cravings I never had before in my life not only that I had no one to talk to absolutely no one. I got depressions over 3 months and after a whole year I'm still left with the snowy vison not quit sure if its HPPD or just a snowy vison. I see static especially when it's dark my eyes are really sensitive to light. If I stare at a thick line fore a few seconds and the. Look away I will still see iT. Also it didn't cause my anxiety it made it allot worse than it was I use to have no problem what so her talking with girls but now... If I'm not with the right people holding my back I am awful.

Wow 8 years is allot. I'm glad you were able to stop and better and that your good now and able to help others :)

If you like you could post a few names of books I would generously look at them :)

That was really helpful thank you so much!
 
I lolled up the book you mentioned sounds really interested even if I'm only 15 you'd be surprised how erarly these kind of things start around here :D the product seems kind of expensive though.
You should be able to find a torrent for that book. ;) I'm not very into the whole thing myself. That being said, things have been going up and down with increasing amplitude for me, but gaining insights definitely helped a lot. For social engineering I am sure there are tons of forums and communities out there. Just don't go for anyone asking money. Google NLP or PUA forum or look for ebook torrents on the subject. Browse through amazon reviews. Overall it'll probably take just as much work as any other skills you could focus on acquiring and you'll have to learn in the process how to get past some fears. Like I said I'm definitely not an expert in that field, but I don't think you will need to be either to utilize some techniques or simply drop some clumsy beavioural programs.
 
Hey,

Just since a couple of months I have left this fase of my life. I am now more social and more confident and have less social anxiety then, lets say half year ago. I dont know how it happened but I feel comfortable in my own body.

Before this I always worried about what other people think about me. This was a really sad period in my life. I was socially akward or at least I thought I was. And now I feel much better.

And try to smoke less. I smoked before weed as well and I always get paranoid. So I decided just to stop this stuff.

Hang on buddy, it takes time.
 
I thought about telling my parents not about the drug use but just that I have been feeling down for a long time now and its realy getting on my nerves. And it isent really depressions but more like just feeling sick. I keep having this anger inside to. Like when I go into the store with friends and they dont wait I get freaking pisst. I could smash my fist into a wall sometimes when some people make jookes about me that arent ment in a bad way and I wish I were someone else.

I am reading a german book curently on how to medicate mental ilnesses with out drugs. I have heard of a method close to hypnosis or their was a mod that I use to know who did EMDR therapy though rapid eye movement. I just dont want to feel like this anymore their are tro many points to menshion whz I hate my life even though it isent bad I have friends and good grades...


Ahhh frustration !!!
 
I thought about telling my parents not about the drug use but just that I have been feeling down for a long time now and its realy getting on my nerves. And it isent really depressions but more like just feeling sick. I keep having this anger inside to. Like when I go into the store with friends and they dont wait I get freaking pisst. I could smash my fist into a wall sometimes when some people make jookes about me that arent ment in a bad way and I wish I were someone else.
Sounds to me pretty classic narcisstic. No intrinsic sense of self, self image easily shaken by external feedback or lack thereof. It's considered a personality "disorder" if it gets in the way of your keeping up healthy relationships to friends, family, lovers. Since "personality" is something that isn't fully developed in you yet, a personality disorder cannot be diagnosed as of now and should not. I don't wanna limit this to some lame-ass diagnostics catalogue, but the consequence of your personality not having developed fully is that you can still influence the way your personality will develope much better than an adult who is left to "cope" with the traits he's been served. Long story short - it is very treatable, especially with psychotherapy - especially with a personality that is not fully developed yet. You need to gain insights as to WHY you are going mad when your friends leave you behind. And all that aside - if they are good friends, they will look out for some major triggers, too, as long as that isn't a ten page list of spleens. ;)
 
Im not quit sure what may have caused it. Maybe going way back that I use to hang out with kids thatw ere 2 years older than me other kids being mean or my bigger brother.

But I have found that thinking of all of the bad things that have ever happend to me reprossing them, just putting the pain in front of my eyes really helps. Its like Ive lost allot of waight. All I do is think of everything again. IT gives me more self esteem.

A nother major thing is probably drinking and smoking weed all the time. I stoped doing that Yestuday/today was an exseption because we wanted to try candyflipping which didnt work out for me because I didnt take enough lsd and it was my first time. Also since I work out I feel allot better to. Ill remain drug free for a few months count the times I feel bad and see if I really still need to go to a psychiatran
 
An LSD trip amplifies your current mood and feelings, if you're already feeling socially awkward, I recommend against using it unless it's with people you don't have this issue with in a calm home-setting you're comfortable with. But generally I would avoid it alltogether.
 
An LSD trip amplifies your current mood and feelings, if you're already feeling socially awkward, I recommend against using it unless it's with people you don't have this issue with in a calm home-setting you're comfortable with. But generally I would avoid it alltogether.

Oh when I took it I felt pretty good. even in the city. Just didnt feel much :)
 
To be honest, smoking weed as mentioned numerous times before will only add to your social anxiety and awkwardness. I know it did for me personally - but for some it helps. It sounds like you're now starting to experiment with other drugs, hallucinogens by the sounds of it. If I were you I'd seriously find some new friends to hang around with. I wish I had when i was your age. They were drug fiends or alcoholics in the making and I joined in because I felt included and happy. 5 years down the line I'm left with nobody but myself. I don't find social situations awkward anymore because I simply don't give a fuck about what people think about me. It's either you love me or you hate me, and it's your call type thing.

I wish I could go back to being 15-16 and just change my whole friend relationships. I wish I had I hung out wih the less popular, respectable and intelligent people rather than the idiots who only wanted to smoke and drink all the time. One thing will eventually lead to another and you'll find yourself experimenting wih harder drugs which god forbid never happens to you.

I don't think you have a mental problem at all. Theoretically if we go by the DSM were all insane. Nobody is normal, and everyone needs to be medicated. It's just silly. What you need is to just be more confident in yourself, look at yourself in the morning in the mirror and say I'm proud to be me 10 times. It sounds stupid but just do it. It helps!
 
I chose to use those drugs by my self. It was me who did it. And it is me who will be carefull with them and wait a nother good 3 months before drinking smoking or doing anything else again. I have lots of good friends actually the intelligent ones it took a while to find so many it took about a year but all you have to do is staret writing with new people you have had contact with. And then ask them if they want to hang out. Was really easy found friends in epople I would have never thought of. I just like to experiment. Thats just me.

Its so hard to be nice to other people all thew time not to say anything behind their backs and not to be mean at all. I mean not that I do an of those things but It happens to often. I push part of the fault to anxiety and part of it to my family. Like when my brother made a contest out of everything and always had to decide Iwould fight against it and try and get my opinion though but still it was never ehard. So always when a decision is made mine has to be chosen. I just cant help it. Not only that I use to have bad friends who would talk beind my back be mean and bully me. So I got use to being mean to back and doning other dumb things.

It was XTC that really amde me relize I had to change. The horrible feeling I got while thinking about people that dont like em or people I started fights with. My body showed me that it wasent right. So I will try with all ym strenght to change.

Lol who said drzugs werent good for anything.

Sometimes I wish I could do a all natural therapy which would take all the waight stapped to my back. Maybe something like
EMDR. I wrote a therapist who lives in the city and asked him about therapy if it were worth it. I might try< and self medicate with LSD and try and reproses all the abd things that ever happend to me. Maybe that will help
 
I really liked to experiment with drugs, anything really too. It landed me in a 6 year addiction I'm still struggling to deal with. I don't know if it will happen to you, but you really need to be careful my man. You know with the whole bullying thing, I know you've been through shit and I had too. But I never took it out on others afterwards either. I never had a huge group of friends just a lot of very close tight knit ones that were the best. When I started hanging out in the big groups I hated it. I guess it's not for everyone.
 
mate best advice here is cut out the weed completely. Im a grown ass woman who over the years has tried everything under the sun and yet know what? I am totally unable to smoke weed because i suffer with depression from time to time and weed just cuts to that part of my brain and makes me almost paralysed with anxiety and paranoia - even when my life is going well. Its frustrating as weed is SUCH a huge part of drug culture but its something I just cant take so I dont. No point in making a bad sitaution worse is it really? heads up on alcohol. Booze is a sneaky fucker. Yu think its giving you a boost of confidence and that yu are tolerating it well....and then BOOM. Depression like being hit by a train. Depressin that is unshakeable and that doesnt respond to anything except long term abstinence. TBH IMHO i rate alcohol as one of the most damaging drugs of all. I shuld know - i lost everything i ever cherished thru booze and it took me many years to salvage my life again. God luck bro.
 
I used to be shy and awkward around that age and then i grew some nice big tities and well now I let my boobs do the talking and walking! Eh but ur a guy so wait a few years and you will grow into yourself and don't smoke weed until u can handle it around others. Oh another thing lock yourself in you're room only wearing ur underwear and stand in front of a mirror turn on some music of you're choice and just dance. Keep ur head up man its a phase we all go through it.

PEACE LOVE & BUD
 
^Great post. I could not agree more. Looking for the quick, or chemical fix, to psychological difficulties is usually a disaster worse than the original unease. Mental skill development is what life is. Sometimes we look around and think we are the only ones suffering anxiety or unease, we see people for whom it appears easy to interact and connect, and we conclude that we are missing something or that something is "wrong" and needs fixing. Nothing is wrong. Self esteem and self assurance are built, risk by risk, over time.

I'm really glad to hear that you found friends that you feel comfortable with. There is nothing like it. I also admire the risks you took in going about it.<3
 
No I dont do drugs that way, at.least not anymore. Like I mentioned I did a candyflip with my friend last week., but that doesnt mean I do drugs. I dont drink smoke weed ordo anything erlse. I just like to experiment every few months. Like for my 6th birthday we will go partying and Ill do some MDMA. but thats not until 3 months from now. And Im not planning on drinking or doing anything else inbetween. No Like I use to smoke weed every week end and almost coma drink.
I live really healthy dont eat candy work out 4 times a week go running 3 times play tennis once and do parkur/tricking/free running or what every you want to call it twice. I feel allot better. And actiually coming down from MDMA made me feel like I use to scared wierd not exsepted esaly hurt. ITs not like that anymore its just I would still like to change a bunch of facts about my personality you know get a girl freind be a man.
Ive discoverd that allot of my problems are from the past. Bullying left deep marks and scares but my brother did to. Atleast Iwould like to blame him for it. He always made a contest out of everything and I was the younger you know not as smart slower weaker... sO Iwould always lose and if I won I always c heated or thats atleast what it was in his eyes. So now I catch my self trying to win with everything asnd if not it makes me feel bad.
Also the fact that when I do something I always think I coppied it from someone else. Say one of my friends or a dude in my class makes up a new joke something like (Yeah its a really dumkb exsample but I cant think of anything else) Yolo. Say, and I really hate the word, one of my friends say it first and I say it then I will think I coppied it which is true but doesnt mean I cant say it. Or even worse when I am somewhere I want to be better than myself I always think of what other people would do. What do other people do and I cant make myself stop it its annying really annying its like I cant find my self and I keep coppieng other personalitys.


Urgh life is so frustrating.
I contacted a pychitran and ask him about therapy and he said that it would be smart and that I would be able to get rit of it though therapy, but I just dont know how to tell my parents. And since nobady here knows me Ill just say it yes I am fucking scared of telling my parents.
 
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