Tieeurrrop
Bluelighter
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- Nov 19, 2018
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I have a hard time having a clear conscience taking something that I know was created through the suffering of animals.
This very much limits my options for drugs but I am currently looking finding a downer that I would get on with and I know the majority of gaba type drugs were only made deep within the trenches of the western medical system with countless animals used as cannon fodder.
And I fucking hate shrooms and weed
btw so not worth mentioning those. Kratom is my go to high to take with clear conscience
. I guess it only leaves the other natural opiates as options. Not that I plan on taking those, kratom is a decent opioid high and I am looking for other receptor agonism. I also know many tests were done on dogs and cats and stuff in the late 19th century to test heroin but my rational is that if exists naturally in nature then it is 'ok' or at least just needed a little teasing out (like ghb existed naturally but unfortunately I didn't like it when I tried it).
Nearly every downer is made with such practices I think isn't it? except maybe some alcohol analogues but they are but probably dangerous and hard to get and or toxic.
Is there any way to do mental gynmastics to make your mind feel ok with this situation as a very conscientious person like myself. I haven't thought of a way to so far
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I have also that rc benzoes would not classify as having been tested on animals so they would be clear in that sense but of course that is a trade off in safety for a clear conscience.
I am not just taking to get 'fucked up' btw. I always have therapeutic goals with my use these days but I don't think that justifies other animal's suffering unless it was a life or death thing where your hand is forced to do that; like humans taking to murder or cannibalism in extreme situations.
This very much limits my options for drugs but I am currently looking finding a downer that I would get on with and I know the majority of gaba type drugs were only made deep within the trenches of the western medical system with countless animals used as cannon fodder.
And I fucking hate shrooms and weed
Nearly every downer is made with such practices I think isn't it? except maybe some alcohol analogues but they are but probably dangerous and hard to get and or toxic.
Is there any way to do mental gynmastics to make your mind feel ok with this situation as a very conscientious person like myself. I haven't thought of a way to so far
I have also that rc benzoes would not classify as having been tested on animals so they would be clear in that sense but of course that is a trade off in safety for a clear conscience.
I am not just taking to get 'fucked up' btw. I always have therapeutic goals with my use these days but I don't think that justifies other animal's suffering unless it was a life or death thing where your hand is forced to do that; like humans taking to murder or cannibalism in extreme situations.
