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I don't want to be a soldier

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Two solders who died during a training exercise in the Brecon Beacons in Powys were serving with the Territorial Army, the BBC understands.

A third soldier is in a serious condition after Saturday afternoon's incident, which is thought to have been linked to the hot weather.
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Speaking to Channel 4 news, Mr Capstick described how he was walking in the Beacons when he was passed by a line of soldiers moving in the opposite direction at five or 10-minute intervals.

"We then came across two soldiers who had clearly broken that intended mode of operation and were proceeding slowly together, and one of the soldiers made a compassionate plea for some drinking water for his colleague," he said.

"He was upset," he added. "The other soldier was trying to make the best of the situation and asked if we could spare any water for his colleague, not for himself."

Mr Capstick added that it "certainly was slightly odd" that the two soldiers in particular had bunched together and were "clearly in distress."
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Poor bastards. Yomped to death. But the family of one of the dead men, despite being deeply saddened, have some understanding.

We wholeheartedly supported Craig in his military endeavours and it gives us some comfort .... that he died in the pursuit of his dream.
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Hold on a minute. At best his dream involved some naive idea about protecting the nation, at worst it could involve psychopathic sanctioned legal murder. And he died, painfully, from dehydration on a selection test to get into this dream. That gives them comfort?

I dunno. I just couldn't see them being so 'understanding' and 'comforted' if his dream had been hedonism and he'd died on pills in a club.

"It gives us some comfort .... that he died in the pursuit of his dream."

I'm probably missing something though.

Like how much people can be brainwashed by state hegemony. Yeah, that's it.

Meanwhile, in other military death news.

UK soldier and veteran suicides 'outstrip Afghan deaths'
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More British soldiers and veterans took their own lives in 2012 than died fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan over the same period.

BBC Panorama learned that 21 serving soldiers killed themselves last year, along with 29 veterans.

The Afghanistan death toll was 44, of whom 40 died in action.
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50 suicides to 40 died in action. Crazy. Literally.

Well, I don't wanna be a soldier mama, I don't wanna die.

Yes I know Lennon's original is good too.
 
The comfort / dream shit:

In their minds, in his mind, his dream role was 'protecting his country'.

A lot of people don't get past that. They can't get past that. So anything else you have to say is just noise to them. I'm sure you know this.
 
The dream isn't just about protecting the country, it's about becoming part of an elite and achieving what so few have.

Top cyclists don't do what they do just to win competitions, often they do it to prove to themselves they can and whatnot.

Agreed it's a massive waste of life for those two guys and it should never have got to that stage.
 
There is no soldier in me, I want my guts where they are
Not dumb to these false leaders anymore
And now you want to achieve another worthless defeat
Welcome here the heroes, on their way home

The end of everything You’re dead in me forever
The end of everything You’re dead in me forever
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Innit.
 
pontifex01 said:
I don't know. That's how Aaron went out (well, in his sleep from too many etizolams and GBL after a rave) and I saw it as a small mercy, as did his father, actually.
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That's great. But not typical. Not at all. Big up to A's dad for choosing to see it that way. (I know it's probably only because of all the unthinkable other things that could have happened but still...)
 
And even if you don't end up killing yourself, you could end up becoming James Blunt...

I agree with jancrow on this one. If the families of the deceased actually thought about it in more depth, it'd open up a painful can of worms. Better for them to think of their son / daughter / whatever as a selless 'hero' and leave it at that.

Personally, I can't understand what motivates these people, especially as record numbers of their fellow subjects took to the streets to voice their disapproval of recent military 'interventions'. Selfless, eh?
 
Better in the short term, but children end up repeating the heroic mistakes of their parents a lot of the time, don't they? "I want to die serving my country, just like my old man."
 
I'm not saying collapsing on the dancefloor is great but the end result is usually screaming for more war on drugs.

Whereas here, in this painful, dehydration death, the noble call is...to be comforted by a lust for war.

Well, I suppose if you're going to fight somebody's got to do the fighting. Yeah. Got it. Makes sense now. Just had to think that through.
 
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