ive been smoking daily for going on 7 years now(im 20) and have been addicted to oxys for at least a year of that and for me it depends on the bud as to what kind of high i exsperience. IF you are educated in the types of weed the chances are you just got a sativa blend which causes much more anxiety and is a head high as apposed to a indica blend which causes more relaxation and sleep. Get educated on the type of weed you buy and for god sakes stop smoken those nigger ass mids that came to america in someones asshole. its worth the extra loot for a cleaner better high
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I dont think I enojy pot anymore...
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badandwicked
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You may have au underlying subconcious discontent regarding your opiate use or other aspects of your life and this is what causes the unsettled feeling when stoned. The aversion to cannabis may be the symptom not the cause. Just a theory.
dcraver877
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this!
pumkin_escobar
Greenlighter
i used to smoke pot more than anyone i knew, i used to slang a quarter pound a week just to support my smoking habit, now i'm a heroin addict and ever since i started using dope i hate pot, i get anxiety, panic attacks, clamy hands, my heart races like a fucking race horse. i think its because back when smoking was enjoyable it was calming, since heroin is like 1000 times more calming, weed doesn't calm anymore
Sorry, didn't read the previous posts. Was a regular (er, heavy) user for 10 yrs. It does the same thing to me now and I don't like to smoke. Have friends who are the same. I guess it will never relax me again, not sure why. Too much on my mind maybe. Who knows?
Same thing happened to me. Smoked most days between the age of 16 to 19, as well as other stuff. But only about 6 months ago I started getting the paranoia and it made me socially anxious. Its a horrible feeling, especially when I've enjoyed smoking for that long i never wanted to stop. Had to make myself now though as it just kept getting worse. I think it has something to do with starting young/smoking regularly or daily, eventually it builds up so much that it just fucks your head up. Sucks how weed can do that to ya.
I also feel like is damaged my brain a bit, I feel a bit slower than I used to. Will I recover from this over time? or is it a permanent thing?
I also feel like is damaged my brain a bit, I feel a bit slower than I used to. Will I recover from this over time? or is it a permanent thing?
pumkin_escobar
Greenlighter
doctors just drug you up as well, they're the new dealers, and the post after this about the X, i've never taken an X pill in my life, i guess it had to be the chiva that did it for me, oh well chiva is cheaper high-wise than smoking dro. but that needle can be intimidating to most
ExOblivion
Bluelighter
I've been an avid pot smoker for the past 15 years. Recently I've gotten myself addicted to Oxycontin, and I've began to notice that I'm not liking pot like I used to. I get paranoid driving now and anxious. I've went from smoking all day everyday to smoking once a day, usually after taking a shot of OC.
So, maybe opiate addiction is the key.
So, maybe opiate addiction is the key.
There may be a link but doubt it is the major contributing factor. Despite all the positive stories there are equally as many negative as far as i am concerned. Whether there is a link to other substances or mental health issues I don`t know.. used on a casual basis i think it`s probably fine, but with persistant daily use problems can arise.
arthunter888
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I agree. I have noticed that opiate use will discourage smoking bud. I have a theory on this. Opiates are kind of like the opposite of psychedelics. Psyches "open your eyes" leading to newfound discoveries about you and your life. Opiates on the other hand, "close your eyes" and sedate you, creating a care-free ignorance to introspection and analysis.
When you get accustomed to this indifference and "security blanket" opiates provide, you shy away from things that do the opposite (psychs). Weed is sort of a mild psychedelic, because it induces introspection. Therefore, you are much more overwhelmed by it's anti-security effects after enjoying the security of opiates.
I've been smoking pot since i was 16.. and i am 25 now. I noticed I would go through periods of it being fun and not so fun. This however could be matched up to the things that were going on in my life. Pot amplified my negative emotions... feeling helpless, lost and overwhelmed. At those times though I noticed I would try to lock away my emotions, and when I smoked pot.. my walls would come crashing down. Taking a break from it and other drugs would be good just to get yourself centered again. Really ask yourself about all those paranoid things that you would think about. Chances are there are things that need to resolved in your own life before you can enjoy the advantages of altering your perception with drugs.
badandwicked
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Makes sense to me
rollingstoned!
Bluelighter
Weed is a hallucinogen. LSD is a hallucinogen. Neither "force" a high, however, you determine the high. Weed is milder than LSD. So if you think happy on weed, you are happier than sober on weed. However, if you are sad on weed, you are sadder than sober. Same goes for LSD except by a factor of around 100-1000 (depends on dose, just like marijuana). Some people do not like to find reasons to be happy and use what I refer to as "DOPERS". These can have an upper or downer effect.
Stimulants force the release of our natural uppers (dopamine, norepinephrine, epinephrine). In small doses, they can be sedating (although nicotine is the opposite, so consider it a downer). In normal to high doses, they are stimulating. Also, while your mindset can affect the high, it is a lot less likely to do so than LSD or weed. Some people like the feeling of overactivated dopamine, norepinephrine, trace-amine, and epinephrine receptors. Others do not.
These others like the effects of downers. Benzos, barbs and alcohol are both downers in normal to high doses. Benzos potentiate GABA receptors, which leads to less brain activity. In low doses, downers are stimulating. Example: 1 drink will get you going, while 10-20 will have you passed out. Opiates are also downers. They activate opioid receptors when they aren't naturally supposed to be. In low doses, they are stimulating, but in normal to high doses, they are downing.
Now as both the upper people and the downer people will probably agree, the high lasts roughly half as long as the comedown (maybe the comedown lasts even more?). So my question to those who are addicted to uppers is why not get addicted to benzos? You take the pill, the high sucks, but the "comedown" is actually stimulating. And it lasts twice as long!!!! AND you get to look foward to being high instead of BEING sad that you will inevitably comedown.
Opposite goes for downer people. Take an upper and the comedown (which you like, of course) lasts twice as long.
Hallucinogens or no drugs are the only reasonable options, IMO.
Although I completely understand why people use "dopers", I have never seen it work. They force happiness or unfocus you in times when you have to deal with SHIT. Shit is natural. It comes in many forms. Guilt of stealing. Anxiety for not understanding something. Fear of having to tell people you are an addicted to a drug (which is a loop). Guilt of taking a drug to temporarily give you satisfaction of not dealing with shit. Whatever. You take the opiate. It washes away the shit. But it doesn't destroy it. And now, it has come back in double the size. And now, you have half of you're opiate receptors downregulated from abnormally activating them via diacetylmorphine. And now, you keep repeating the cycle. You've just been looping around the shit. Until one day the shit has grown so much, and you only have 1/32 of your precious opiate receptors left. And your endorphins aren't being produced normally. The shit hasn't gone anywhere. And the comedown of both the drug, and the shit is waiting.
My point is, accept and find REASONS for the comedown, whether it be from a doper (like heroin), or life's shit. Now, comedown. Once you're past the comedown and all evened out (this takes usually 3+ months to do), you'll probably never want to do a drug again. If you do, it'll likely be reserved to marijuana. Or maybe a 30 mg vyvanse to remind you of why dopers are bad and pointless.
Stimulants force the release of our natural uppers (dopamine, norepinephrine, epinephrine). In small doses, they can be sedating (although nicotine is the opposite, so consider it a downer). In normal to high doses, they are stimulating. Also, while your mindset can affect the high, it is a lot less likely to do so than LSD or weed. Some people like the feeling of overactivated dopamine, norepinephrine, trace-amine, and epinephrine receptors. Others do not.
These others like the effects of downers. Benzos, barbs and alcohol are both downers in normal to high doses. Benzos potentiate GABA receptors, which leads to less brain activity. In low doses, downers are stimulating. Example: 1 drink will get you going, while 10-20 will have you passed out. Opiates are also downers. They activate opioid receptors when they aren't naturally supposed to be. In low doses, they are stimulating, but in normal to high doses, they are downing.
Now as both the upper people and the downer people will probably agree, the high lasts roughly half as long as the comedown (maybe the comedown lasts even more?). So my question to those who are addicted to uppers is why not get addicted to benzos? You take the pill, the high sucks, but the "comedown" is actually stimulating. And it lasts twice as long!!!! AND you get to look foward to being high instead of BEING sad that you will inevitably comedown.
Opposite goes for downer people. Take an upper and the comedown (which you like, of course) lasts twice as long.
Hallucinogens or no drugs are the only reasonable options, IMO.
Although I completely understand why people use "dopers", I have never seen it work. They force happiness or unfocus you in times when you have to deal with SHIT. Shit is natural. It comes in many forms. Guilt of stealing. Anxiety for not understanding something. Fear of having to tell people you are an addicted to a drug (which is a loop). Guilt of taking a drug to temporarily give you satisfaction of not dealing with shit. Whatever. You take the opiate. It washes away the shit. But it doesn't destroy it. And now, it has come back in double the size. And now, you have half of you're opiate receptors downregulated from abnormally activating them via diacetylmorphine. And now, you keep repeating the cycle. You've just been looping around the shit. Until one day the shit has grown so much, and you only have 1/32 of your precious opiate receptors left. And your endorphins aren't being produced normally. The shit hasn't gone anywhere. And the comedown of both the drug, and the shit is waiting.
My point is, accept and find REASONS for the comedown, whether it be from a doper (like heroin), or life's shit. Now, comedown. Once you're past the comedown and all evened out (this takes usually 3+ months to do), you'll probably never want to do a drug again. If you do, it'll likely be reserved to marijuana. Or maybe a 30 mg vyvanse to remind you of why dopers are bad and pointless.
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rollingstoned!
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It goes away. For 3 years, I'd reccommend 6-12 months of abstinence, possibly more. You'll see how things change when you stop smoking, in the same way things change when you start. My reasoning for 6-12 months is based on my own experiences of marijuana withdrawal, and the knowledge of cannabinoids fat solubility, as well as the fat soluble neurotransmitters it mimics. It will take longer for the receptors to upregulate then say, cholinergenic receptors, but it's damn well worth the wait. Best part is you can go back to it with a more respectable view of things a year from now.
Have you considered the possibility that you are bipolar and need to take lithium or another mood stabilizer?
MeddieFrac
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I think in a lot of cases a mental illness (i.e. depression, anxiety disorder, etc.,) forms and then the pot begins to be not so fun. In fact, pot exacerbates the mental illness and negative emotions you feel. I used to love pot. I would take a couple hits and would be laughing my ass off at nothing. My friends would get mad because I would laugh while hitting the bowl and blow all the pot onto the ground. Used to be so fun, but now it makes me so paranoid I couldn't even buy something at the store if I was stoned because I would be scared of the cashier. Stuff like that.
MeddieFrac
Bluelighter
However, I do use it to help me sleep sometimes. Like right now I've been using it to help sleep while I w/d from Xanax. Seems to help, and I'm so tired that I have no energy to be paranoid, just smoke and go straight to bed.