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Tryptamines I D(o)MT WANNA

This reminds me of something I've noticed, IDK if you find yourself or anybody else you've used DMT with to have what people would consider an "addictive personality", but the type of person who enjoys cheap quick highs like cocaine, as well as more profound intense ones like LSD, this type of person also seems to treat vaporized DMT like crack in a kaleidoscope. Just a colorful hedonistic thrill with lots of alien experiences and color.

Has anybody reading this ever encountered that sort of fiendish behavior over DMT? It's the only psychedelic other than 2C-B, MDA or N-Benzylated phenethylamines that I've seen that occur with.
My early impressions about myself upon getting into some DMT vaping is exactly like that
I would approach it the same way, to the point of timing hoots at 20 minutes...

otherwise I just say it's more-ish.

Lately I am getting more satisfaction overall from my salvinorin A soaked cig paper fragments on a once per day basis.
but the crack shadow over dmt in my case is kind of real.
 
My early impressions about myself upon getting into some DMT vaping is exactly like that
I would approach it the same way, to the point of timing hoots at 20 minutes...

otherwise I just say it's more-ish.

Lately I am getting more satisfaction overall from my salvinorin A soaked cig paper fragments on a once per day basis.
but the crack shadow over dmt in my case is kind of real.
Interesting, 15-20 minute intervals work the best for me as well. When on harmalas though I don't need any time at all between DMT uses which is nice.

Are you vaporizing the salvinorin off the rolling papers, or are they active sublkingually? I'm convinced that there is a necessary degree of complexing for the salvinorin to be sublingually active but nothing I've ever tried has worked. The closest was HPBCD, but it was only more active for maybe 1/2 of people who used it. Interesting note on that actually, I stumbled upon the synergistic effects of LSD and high dose Kanna extracts one time, and while on this peculiar variant of a candyflip I decided to try sublingual salvinorin tincture, and it absolutely wolloped my ass. My reality collapsed into a series of dark colored crystals, I felt like I was in some Lovecraftian otherworld, it was pretty neat. Eventually the tincture was swallowed and rendered inactive so I soaked a paper towel in some more, and when I could muster the energy to pull the paper out of my mouth I'd be back to normal in probably 30-60 seconds, and then upon putting it back in my mouth, the same amount of time would pass by until I'm right back in the same space I was. Later I tried this with just the same dose of Kanna, and just the same dose of acid, and acid was the stronger potentiator but Kanna still got me there, it just took a significantly higher dose of salvinorin to "break through" into that space.

It was easily one of the most intense salvia experiences of my life to have all three together, other than mixing salvia with MDA/MDMA, or ayahuasca, or dagga with harmalas and DMT cured onto it (a cryptic take on changa) nothing really competes.
 
Lately I am getting more satisfaction overall from my salvinorin A soaked cig paper fragments on a once per day basis.
Very few people I looked up to in life. You are one of them pupnik. I don’t know too many other people that like Salvia. I still indulge in plain leaf. But not daily. What kind of relationship you got going on with that plant?! if the plant likes you, it likes you. If it doesn’t, it’ll throw you off a balcony.

Some of you people that seem to partake a lot are pretty levelheaded. Very interesting. You find a groove with these things and go with it. My own groove is on occasion. Although I’m wondering if I wake up with Salvia every day, maybe I can get out of this funk I’m in.

I bet most people that are posting this thread would really say no too Salvia. But I do love the plant. Treats me well.
 
Some of you people that seem to partake a lot are pretty levelheaded. Very interesting. You find a groove with these things and go with it. My own groove is on occasion. Although I’m wondering if I wake up with Salvia every day, maybe I can get out of this funk I’m in.
I did an approximately 5 week long trial of wake-and-baking with salvia. This was when I was smoking 1.5-2.5g of dabs per day on average, and I'd often hit the biggest dab immediately after waking up, sometimes burning a gram or two just hit-after-hit in an enail. Initially I started smoking straight salvia leaf, a blunt or so of it (I was homegrowing and became a salvia gremlin briefly due to not measuring doses) and it would make me not cough at all from the dabs for maybe 4 hours after the salvia. Eventually I started REALLY increasing the morning salvia doses, and found that really blasting my ass with salvia before work in the morning was fantastic, it kept me dramatically more clear headed and it stabilized my mood dramatically. It also kept me from needing to hit my asthma inhaler as it got wicked cold out (was living in Maine). It wasn't particularly effective at breaking me out of ruts the way that other psychs can, but it was great at making me fit into my circumstances at the time, it made me feel like a puzzle piece with varying shape that could never quite fit into my surroundings until then, if that makes sense. After this period ended, I did it again for a couple weeks about a year later when I was smoking far less weed, and found it equally as effective.
 
Jeez, i’m getting stoned just reading the last several posts. I bet for a regular routine that could work. I thought of cutting back on weed, but I smoke 12 puffs a day. 4 after dinner, then another four before bed, and sometimes when I wake up at 3 AM, I’ll take a couple more. So I don’t think that excessive. Weekends I’ll smoke in the morning too.
 
Jeez, i’m getting stoned just reading the last several posts. I bet for a regular routine that could work. I thought of cutting back on weed, but I smoke 12 puffs a day. 4 after dinner, then another four before bed, and sometimes when I wake up at 3 AM, I’ll take a couple more. So I don’t think that excessive. Weekends I’ll smoke in the morning too.
Man I've never even thought to measure cannabis consumption by the puff. Being from Maine, there's a "cannabis culture" much in the way that places like Ireland have an "alcohol culture", so often the initial thing somebody asks upon entering their home is "You trying to smoke?", and cannabis is so universally accessible since everybody can grow virtually unregulated amounts privately, it creates this societal state of saturation as far as cannabis goes. Have you ever considered lightly infusing your cannabis with DMT and/or harmalas to see how that impacts how it hits you @JackARoe ?
 
Have you ever considered lightly infusing your cannabis with DMT and/or harmalas to see how that impacts how it hits you @JackARoe ?
I have not only because of daily kratom use. Although I do have harmala seeds and can work with that. I worried kratom would not mix with harmala but I think it was you that said you can mix kratom and ayahuasca. So I should give the harmala a shot. I am pretty old fashioned with DMT. I sandwich between this nice lavender tea I have. I myself never infused leaf and made changa though. I mean, 15-20 mgs in one large hit and I am gone. C'ya!

Cannabis. I have a glass pipe of course and load a pinch and take a hit. 4 hits for a session :) I smoke an eighth a week in that manor. Sort of conservative.
 
tweekers like DMT because it's one of the few psychedelics they can still use that'll still work well without the tweek getting in the way
 
Krink, everytime I think of you I think of the Capitol Theater in Passaic NJ. The fun early days of my life. Bless your dad man. I could have run into him.

i have a Capitol Theater sweatshirt that he made

he used to have these get together parties with all the old heads that worked at the Capitol too
 
i saw Anthrax there in 1987 - that's the last show i remember there - i dont think it was around much longer after that

i grew up like 10 minutes away from there
 
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Ticketron - remember that?
 
Yeah man I saw a few shows in the early 80's. Garcia band and a few others that are a blur now. I remember trying to make it to a Johnny Winter show but never did. I grew up close to there, a little further north NJ.

The old concert photos. lol Whatever happened to those happenings??
 
LOL ealier, like 1981 for Johnny Winter. I have to check that calendar. But a look at the Capitol Theater in Passaic NJ calendar. Very cool.


(sorry for the OT, this is what happens when people party on a Saturday Night. ;))
where in North Jersey
Northvale, NJ. Bergen County. The next house was on the NY border. Tappan. Rockland County. But eventually left. Moved to Texas, California, and Canada.
 
Now I think about it I feel the same way about 4-aco-dmt and mushrooms. I feel drawn to them far less often but tend to gain much more from the trips than I do any other substance. They help me point me in the right direction when I’m feeling a bit lost. Perhaps that’s why I feel less inclined to take them frequently.
Yeah, when it comes to vaporized N,N-DMT, I have basically always enjoyed it and usually return feeling refreshed and full of awe and beauty. And then I'm done with it. I feel no need to revisit it, and I rarely feel like I get anything out of it. I think I had ten grams laying around for many years and it eventually oxidized. While I liked it, I never really found much of a use for it.

Orally active DMT? That is another story. It's in the same realm as psilocybin for me: incredibly useful stuff that I always benefit from tremendously, but somehow never seem to make the time for. They're something that I know I can come back to if I need to do some deep work, though.
 
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