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Tryptamines I D(o)MT WANNA

reverse cosmosis

reverse cosmosis

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Just wondering if anyone else feels the same.

Fucking hate DMT. Awful feeling, too intense, feels like I'm being dragged underwater by cold hands I can't see and even though I don't see entities sometimes it feels like I'm communicating with some kind of being. And I hate it.

But... for a week or two after a few pipes I feel great. Not like euphoric or physically great but just... content. Motivated. Sharper.

Last time I partook was roughly 2 months ago and the positive afterglow is long gone but I just haven't been able to bring myself to do it. I was gonna do an Xmas ayahuasca analogue... an adhocahuasca... Xmashuasca if you will... but the thought of being stuck with the trip for longer than the 10 minutes it takes to wear off when vaporised makes me want to scream.

It isn't always awful sometimes I do get some positive effects while under the influence but if it wasn't for the tangible beneficial after effects there's no fucking way I'd ever repeat the experience.

Also I've noticed that the clear/white crystal - although easier to handle the feeling - has way fewer lasting benefits for me. The yellowy orange stuff I extracted without a re-X does me far more good.

Surely I can't be alone in this? Everyone I know except one mate either love it or hate it and there's nothing complicated about it. But the two of us love to hate/hate to love it and I'm curious to see what other people think?

Piss and fluff x
 
reverse cosmosis said:
I can't see and even though I don't see entities sometimes it feels like I'm communicating with some kind of being. And I hate it.
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funny i often hear people complain that salvia they just feel weird and can't see the visuals and with smoking DMT it's usually really visual experiences.
 
foodcrisis said:
funny i often hear people complain that salvia they just feel weird and can't see the visuals and with smoking DMT it's usually really visual experiences.
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It is a visual experience, Sorry for the confusion. At least when using enough for visuals (10mg+) but I don't see entities among the visuals
 
It's insane how low of a dose you need to break through, most people require significantly more (35-50mg I'd guess). You may just be hyper responsive to it, have you ever tried dosing like 2-5mg? Maybe 5mg alongside 50mg of harmaline would be a good tester dose too as far as ayahuasca goes.
 
Esperighanto said:
It's insane how low of a dose you need to break through, most people require significantly more (35-50mg I'd guess). You may just be hyper responsive to it, have you ever tried dosing like 2-5mg? Maybe 5mg alongside 50mg of harmaline would be a good tester dose too as far as ayahuasca goes.
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10mg isn't a breakthrough but is enough for visuals. Breakthrough is more like 25-30mg and in my experience most people don't require more than that for a breakthrough, they just struggle to properly vaporize it and waste some. Sime definitely require more but with proper technique and getting it in quickly, 25-30mg is usually fine.

My dose response vaporising in a pipe is something like:

5mg produces 0 visuals and a body load.

10mg produces some light visuals.

15mg produces decent open and closed eye visuals and a heavier body load.

Breakthrough occurs at 25-30mg.
So I'm definitely more sensitive than some but not as sensitive as it probably seemed at first.

First time I ever used DMT I hit 75mg sandwiched between layers in a bong. That was a fuckin ride ride.

I have approx 300g syrian rue seeds left after a failed harmala extraction (long story, too much sodium hydroxide used) but I'm in no rush for the huasca experience.
 
Esperighanto said:
I'm very curious about this, if the pH gets too high can it degrade the harmala alkaloids?
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I have no idea but it absolutely can get high enough that you can't leave the liquid sit in a coffee filter without it eating a hole in the bottom. I probably could have neutralised it a bit but I had no idea how much sodium hydroxide I'd added or whether I'd end up with unwanted byproducts because I was running on no sleep and eventually gave up and threw it out which I now regret as it would absolutely have been salvageable.

Next time I extract it'll be sans the sleep deprivation and with good nutrition in me. Chemistry (even of the kitchen variety) is no good on an empty stomach especially while hallucinating from lack of sleep.
 
no plants man around...all containing dmt plants are scheduled...only grass Phalaris arundiceata....but is not common also
 
reverse cosmosis said:
I have no idea but it absolutely can get high enough that you can't leave the liquid sit in a coffee filter without it eating a hole in the bottom. I probably could have neutralised it a bit but I had no idea how much sodium hydroxide I'd added or whether I'd end up with unwanted byproducts because I was running on no sleep and eventually gave up and threw it out which I now regret as it would absolutely have been salvageable.

Next time I extract it'll be sans the sleep deprivation and with good nutrition in me. Chemistry (even of the kitchen variety) is no good on an empty stomach especially while hallucinating from lack of sleep.
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I have a super easy A/B tek for syrian rue.
Literally idiotproof.
 
When I see visuals on dmt and salvia which I agree are different but have similar intensity and activation arcs over time, I usually do not see "entities" before me, but almost always feel some peripheral shadow personalities towards the left and right sides - i.e. not in line of sight. Occasionally I imagine they are talking but I do not understand. Sometimes a visual will take on semi autonomous behavior that engages with my anticipation or apprehensions - like a dragon or tiger or stranger or clown. circus imagery is common, and so is aztec or egyptian wall art.

Vague things are rapidly shifting like time travel through memory spaces and only a few have a persisting grip on my body and mind.
That some things engage with my anticipation or apprehensions does not mean I control them because I do not believe I control my anticipation or my apprehension, they are always connected to set and setting.
 
For what it's worth, I made a batch of enhanced leaf about a decade ago out of Acacia confusa and left all of the NMT in it, then added in some harmala alkaloids. That was the nicest batch of DMT I've ever come across. The comeup was smooth and gentle, the space was consistently warm and lovely and humane. Everyone I shared it with described blissful flights through infinity or loving unions with the Mother Goddess and other such stuff. I typically found myself in luscious pastel fimo cityscapes of exquisite detail and beauty. Honestly, it wasn't all that interesting, but it was lovely eye candy. The descent was more gradual and the memories easier to retain and integrate. I don't know what to attribute this to (I'm sure the vaporized harmalas played a big part,) but I've been curious about how admixtures like NMT might affect the DMT experience ever since.

Worth noting: it was possible to have more "conventional" experience with that blend. A once smoked a bowl in the middle of a pharmahuasca peak and ended up in a room of harlequin entities that mocked me without language and with indeterminate amounts of menace.
 
Pfafffed said:
For what it's worth, I made a batch of enhanced leaf about a decade ago out of Acacia confusa and left all of the NMT in it, then added in some harmala alkaloids. That was the nicest batch of DMT I've ever come across. The comeup was smooth and gentle, the space was consistently warm and lovely and humane. Everyone I shared it with described blissful flights through infinity or loving unions with the Mother Goddess and other such stuff. I typically found myself in luscious pastel fimo cityscapes of exquisite detail and beauty. Honestly, it wasn't all that interesting, but it was lovely eye candy. The descent was more gradual and the memories easier to retain and integrate. I don't know what to attribute this to (I'm sure the vaporized harmalas played a big part,) but I've been curious about how admixtures like NMT might affect the DMT experience ever since.

Worth noting: it was possible to have more "conventional" experience with that blend. A once smoked a bowl in the middle of a pharmahuasca peak and ended up in a room of harlequin entities that mocked me without language and with indeterminate amounts of menace.
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I prefer blends with NMT.
Straight Acacia extractions, at least the batch that I got, is too high in NMT and gives a body buzz with little visuals, which can be pleasant.
Add a little MHRB extract to that and it makes it a pleasant trip.
Best is adding some Acacia to the MHRB. Straight MHRB extractions give me a kind of a "knockdown" period after the main show where I kind of feel headachy and washed out. The addition of a little Acacia smooths that out and lengthens things.

People's experience with proportions of the two would be fascinating.
 
soon as id crashed the crystal washed with acetone MeOh and sodium carbonate my asian house mate (technicaly my gf house im just squating) come in an he fuuuucking hates me fucking with the kitchen hes super polite never swears/cooks drugs in comunial spaces (key word comunial you do noodles i do my thing) chill cunt he does a masters in buissness, prissy as fuck an he hates me .

anyway i piped 50mg an it fuuuucked me the elves were not best pleased, not a recreational psych. totally forgot who i was an why i was in this house an who these strange people were. learned my lesson an put it away for a rainy day.
 
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