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I cant figure out how I feel about edibles.

I have been taking edibles occasionally since I was a kid and never had any effects, but seemingly I have suddenly become sensitive to them. Strange, a similar thing happened to me with coffee three years ago were it went from having no effect to being a full on euphoric drug. Though the other possibility is that I just never noticed the high because at lower doses 11-hydroxy-thc seems to be fundamentally different than smoking and more like mild shrooms + mdma almost for me. Bodies are weird.
 
Jibult said:
[EDIT: I just googled HHC distillate. I would recommend NOT eating THC alternatives, but also I wouldn't consider them at all. Anybody who lived through the K2/spice era would probably tell you the same.
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HHC has unique risks compared to regular THC in my experience, but nothing comparable to the full agonists that were in k2/spice.
The chemicals in k2 were full agonists that had very different effects compared to THC. For example, they trigger psychosis much easier, and can even cause physical dependence.
HHC is a partial agonist much closer to THC and has a similar, but not identical, risk profile.
 
SotPoker1012 said:
HHC has unique risks compared to regular THC in my experience, but nothing comparable to the full agonists that were in k2/spice.
The chemicals in k2 were full agonists that had very different effects compared to THC. For example, they trigger psychosis much easier, and can even cause physical dependence.
HHC is a partial agonist much closer to THC and has a similar, but not identical, risk profile.
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Hey could I ask your experiences around those risks? I figured things like HHC are best taken occasionally until better studied, and stronger things like thc-H (which I love in small oral doses) I wont allow myself more than maybe once every few weeks. I am still curious though, is the withdrawal more significant, or mental impacts, something else?
Thanks
 
GooberDoober said:
Hey could I ask your experiences around those risks? I figured things like HHC are best taken occasionally until better studied, and stronger things like thc-H (which I love in small oral doses) I wont allow myself more than maybe once every few weeks. I am still curious though, is the withdrawal more significant, or mental impacts, something else?
Thanks
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This is fully anecdotal so keep that in mind. I've looked and haven't found any studies comparing them in any depth.

HHC seems a little more anxious and stimulating than standard THC to me. Increased heart rate compared to THC, increased incidents of racing thoughts, paranoia, etc. It seems to lower blood pressure to a similar or identical degree to THC. Terpenes might play a role in the difference. The HHC I've tried was always alone whereas I usually consume THC via bud or oils that have added terpenes. Terpenes can definitely cause a high to lean more stimulant or sedative depending on the combination. So it may well not be a property of HHC itself leading to my experience. I'd have to try HHC with added terpenes to be sure.

All of this was only moderately increased over standard THC but I've messed with HHC a lot over the years and it was consistent. I've read a lot of people claim that HHC feels very "sativa" which I suspect might be touching on the same thing as above.

Other than that, due to it being minimally studied, it's possible there are adverse effects from long term use that THC lacks, so I'm uncomfortable saying the risk profile is identical, though I'm confident that it's similar.
 
SotPoker1012 said:
This is fully anecdotal so keep that in mind. I've looked and haven't found any studies comparing them in any depth.

HHC seems a little more anxious and stimulating than standard THC to me. Increased heart rate compared to THC, increased incidents of racing thoughts, paranoia, etc. It seems to lower blood pressure to a similar or identical degree to THC. Terpenes might play a role in the difference. The HHC I've tried was always alone whereas I usually consume THC via bud or oils that have added terpenes. Terpenes can definitely cause a high to lean more stimulant or sedative depending on the combination. So it may well not be a property of HHC itself leading to my experience. I'd have to try HHC with added terpenes to be sure.

All of this was only moderately increased over standard THC but I've messed with HHC a lot over the years and it was consistent. I've read a lot of people claim that HHC feels very "sativa" which I suspect might be touching on the same thing as above.

Other than that, due to it being minimally studied, it's possible there are adverse effects from long term use that THC lacks, so I'm uncomfortable saying the risk profile is identical, though I'm confident that it's similar.
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Dude that was exactly what I was wondering about, I thought I was imagining it. This stuff seems extremely anxious at high doses but lower medium doses were pleasantly stimulating and made me want to move around and stretch. Anyways I guess I am one more person to add to the anecdotal evidence suggesting hhc is more stimulating. I certainly enjoy it, but do have the intuitive feeling I shouldn't take it too often thanks.
 
GooberDoober said:
Dude that was exactly what I was wondering about, I thought I was imagining it. This stuff seems extremely anxious at high doses but lower medium doses were pleasantly stimulating and made me want to move around and stretch. Anyways I guess I am one more person to add to the anecdotal evidence suggesting hhc is more stimulating. I certainly enjoy it, but do have the intuitive feeling I shouldn't take it too often thanks.
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This is entirely speculation on my part, though I'm not the only one that has thought about it as I've read a post here on bluelight expressing the same concern, but in terms of long term effect, it's possible that it's nature as a hydrogenated lipid might not be the greatest thing for your brain for the same reason trans-fats are unhealthy in food.
However I don't know nearly enough to gauge how reasonable of a concern that is. It's just something that came to mind and with the lack of research, isn't something that can be totally ruled out.
I'd say unless you're getting some unique effect of HHC that you aren't getting from THC, it's probably best to stick to that, but I doubt it'll pose any major issues
 
GooberDoober said:
While I appreciate the concern one important issue is that I believe substances such as hhc are partial cannabinoid agonists rather than full, meaning they are more in line with delta-9 than K2. While they could have down the road effects that are unforseen, it is unlikely from my understanding that they would begin to display most of these issues now. Thc-p amd Thc-H would be the two to potentially worry about something like this most likely as they are so crazy strong. I could be be proven wrong though but I have encountered the original Spice chemicals before in their pure form and at the very least the fact that I see people able to eat a large amount and not have issues.

Anyways I do grow normal bud to use most of the time anyway.
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I get it. I understand that there's a distinction, but it's splitting hairs in my opinion.

If it's a THC-alternative then i advise caution and hope folks tread lightly. They're called research chemicals for a reason, even if it's sold out of a gas station.

Admittedly things are different than the early 2000's when i had friends on parole trying to get high and duck a piss test.

I honestly don't know how much different, i'm strictly working class nowadays and get my drugs from a storefront.... but seeing a single seizure is one too many, and that's pretty much all the RC's offered to people who smoked them like they're weed,

shout out to jwh-018 though because those visuals were nuts
 
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A couple of years back one of my suppliers had THC gummies/fruit sweets,I'm not into cannabis and haven't been since the 90's but was tempted with the gummies, dealer said they were powerful high THC and CBD etc and to just have half of a gummie, so I was round a crew members and had half but they tasted so moreish I ate the second half and then two more whole ones, a little while later I was blitzed but had to go home, this was 4:30 am I walked three hundred yards and realised I couldn't make the mile walk home and this was I January and it was cold, so went round the back of a Chinese supermarket and crashed out giggling to myself for over two hours untill sunrise and the effects to wear off. They are brilliant for a high but if I want a buzz I'll stick to cocaine, mdma , amphetamine and m-cat ,
 
Ex-Cracker said:
so I was round a crew members and had half but they tasted so moreish I ate the second half and then two more whole ones
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alright so this is kind of funny.... but reading that, i didn't know what the fuck you meant until "i ate the second half" but then i read "and two more whole ones" and i had to grab a beer and figure out a way to say i think you'd be fun to smoke with

(I know i'm weird but it was like "two whole halfs? what does that MEAN?!" it took me a second)
 
Jibult said:
alright so this is kind of funny.... but reading that, i didn't know what the fuck you meant until "i ate the second half" but then i read "and two more whole ones" and i had to grab a beer and figure out a way to say i think you'd be fun to smoke with

(I know i'm weird but it was like "two whole halfs? what does that MEAN?!" it took me a second)
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I used to smoke resin all the time in early to mid 90's and occasionally herbal, only had probably eleven joints since 2010 and I am not keen on smoking resin or herbal, crack smoking yup.
But the edibles are great but I know anytime i have them I'll scoff the lot and then be to stoned to walk and no doubt control my bowels or bladder and then then munchies which will lead me to the local store and raid them for pringles 🤣
SO NO I AM NOT FUN TO SMOKE WITH UNLESS YOU HAVE PRINGLES CHIPS FOR ME !!! ,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
I have never been high from an edible in my life including just melting grams of d9 and hhc in butter and drinking it, I've even tried taking drigestive enzyme along with it and still nothing. yes I smoke a ton but dabbing still gets me stoned. I envy people who can get high with edibles.

any advice for someone in my situation?
 
globby said:
I have never been high from an edible in my life including just melting grams of d9 and hhc in butter and drinking it, I've even tried taking drigestive enzyme along with it and still nothing. yes I smoke a ton but dabbing still gets me stoned. I envy people who can get high with edibles.

any advice for someone in my situation?
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Hey since creating this thread I have started making tinctures out of potent alcohol solutions. It kind of hurts but if you make a tincture with strong alcohol heat it up a little bit and melts some THC or cannabinoids into it. Just put that in your mouth for like 40 seconds it'll start to sting a little bit because there's alcohol and cannabinoids seeping into your membranes. But within 30 seconds to a minute you should be starting to feel it, the other thing that's nice is it passes all the metabolisms and stuff so since it doesn't go into your liver it just goes straight into your bloodstream you basically get a smoking high instead of an eating high that can be good or bad. If you really want an eating high you could try making me tincture with MCT oil but I'm not sure if that'll work as well yet for some people.

Hopefully that could help
 
i had like thirty mgs of edibles yesterday and i was kind of feeling like jello the whole day. it's not the up feeling of the entourage effect of smoking flower that i like. i was still smoking flower with the edibles yesterday, but it was a sick high... i felt as euphoric as moderate opiate dose. i was going for walks and it was fun, but when i was left at home, i felt like the walls were closing in on me. might've been cause the flower too, it was just a lot of thc and i drank a bunch of coffee too... the only thing i could do after walking was like down and breath, and i also played guitar and i was getting pretty good results pretty easy. it didn't seem to mess up my coordination and my ear was still there. strong psychedelics usually produce good results with music for me, but i wasn't really confident edibles are great for playing music. i think i was actually playing crazy ass shit though. i was listening to the recording. the guitar playing kind of felt like playing was relief from feeling like the walls were closing in on me from being high. like i could still function fine. i could definitely come off as sober even though i was super baked, but it was just like crazy feeling. i'm surprised 30mgs of edible got me so baked... might've just been my brain chemistry for that day. i know the thc had something to do with it... crazy day. i don't eat edibles all the time... i'm gonna experiment with the more in the future more often to see how my tolerance goes.... honestly i had to just go to bed early yesterday from the edibles. after waking up and drinking a cup of coffee and smoking some more weed, i feel kind of better than yesterday.. it was a crazy ass trip though. like something that is kind of hard to deal with but is still a cool drug experience... i wish edibles were as relief as smoking weed for me cause i have to move to smoke free housing.

would recommend going for a nature hike on edibles with how good my walk felt. i'd say just walk through your neighborhood streets, but idk if everyone can stay as functional as i am and stay conscious of cars. don't want to recommend anyone do anything dangerous, but i think most people could find a good breathing pattern while walking. unlike the immediate effects of smoking flower, i feel like edibles kind of put me to sleep. it's easy to shake off though. something like a light walk is perfect. i'm sure some people can do more active stuff like dancing, but i feel like edibles are making me lean toward vibing with low blood pressure.... walking on edibles should be called "jello walking". i want to make raps about it.

until yesteday, i felt like people that take like 5mgs and claim to get too fucked up are getting placebo affects, but i realize i have a huge tolerance not just from smoking, maybe even from heavy psychedelic use... but i could see how five mgs could fuck with a person. like i can't drink alcohol or do certain drugs nearly as much as some people... maybe something i ate or whatever made yesterdays experience strong though.

EDIT: while going for walk, i feel like i have a muse. edibles made it noticable more comfortable to walk slower. like i was walking noticebly slower. it was a lot like tai chi. pretty much was tia chi meditation.
 
I ate 1/2 a gram of distillate in one go and spent 8 hours in a sweaty near coma. My bed sheets where soaking wet after.
 
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