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I am Completely Alienated, Downtrodden and Have No-one -- I Think the End is Near

Wow OP glad to see you're going to see a psychologist, sad to see that you can't see you're being paranoid...

From the sounds of things, people are mouthing off to themselves outloud when they see you staring at them - no one likes to be stared at!!

Hope all goes well for you. Peace
 
We all question our place in the universe don't we? Yet not all of us succumb to despair. Why is that? There must be an antidote to the grand futility out there, you just gotta find it somehow.
 
your not retarted, your a sociopath

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btw knowing of your presence in my surroundings is the reason i keep one in the chamber

you invite it.

a sociopath won't try to get better. we might for clinical purposes say he exhibits sociopathic tendencies, but he is clearly not a "sociopath", unless everyone i know is. he is a someone trying to be better. if i had walked in his shoes, and i have (to a degree, i identify), i might react similarly at times to some of the comments made here (and outside), even if the intention of the people was to help... those people.. are people.

i'm sort of caught between worlds here. in one i am pretty much an orwellian nightmare, and in another i'm mother mary. maybe not the best analogy as i believe if perfected that orwellian nightmare might become a paradise. i think either way if done right... might prove it's own heaven... but uhh.. I don't know.



the hand i'm going to take you on with is this: this guy could benefit from unconditional love, or at least an attempt. (it's good for us)

the other hand is simply killing him because he's a little bit more out of balance than some, and a threat. but if we go this way, it's like a cascade, and we're all gone, eventually (maybe some left over, just because they're lucky in some ways, or able to let it pass.).

but telling him so... that you're afraid of him (gun comment), only makes him feel more hopeless, the thread title clearly says "i think the end is near.", which means he thinks about opting out, anyway.... but he's asking for help, and that's what hand you should try to give him. if he asked for help to reinforce his thoughts to opt out, then maybe you said the right thing, but you didn't.








there are other roads, but uhh.. man. i got to get somewhere.
 
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I don't think he'd be writing about it if he didn't recognize the behavior was wrong.. that being said, now to Deadlife... I don't know if anyone will have anything better to tell you here. I wish we did. Maybe someone might.

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But I wonder, might I suggest group therapy? This might be a place where you can meet others who might have stories with some parallels to yourself. Even meet a friend.


Also, maybe try a forum more focused on your specific issues... a mental health forum? Bluelight is a little more broad, although we do have focus forums here, like this... but even this is geared more toward "romance" and not ... the intensive subjects that you might need to look into. I will look around tonight (sometime) for you, and if I find any forums specifically related, I will PM you some.

Have you posted in the dark side (though it is more of a drug discussion forum)? SLR might not be the place for it, at least not the only place.

an example of what i might do if a lady in a parking lot unmistakably, bitchedly mouthed words at me: i might stop my car, get out, and politely ask her what she just said. "excuse me ma'am? did you want to say something to me?" if she's a bitch and you/I didn't do anything, just force a smile (no teeth) and nod once, and get back in your car. honestly, is she worth our trouble? really? the angry stalking behavior in this regard is dangerous, and it's rooted in your own fear of confronting the situation. keep it all defused, unless you really need to make an explosion. 99.999 percent of the time you won't need to (? number).

but honestly, i live in a city of nearly a million people, and i pretty much don't pay much attention, even if i catch something. keep moving. i might say "wtf", but i don't really care most of the time what some random person thinks about me. it took awhile to get here, and for me, it was in the form of quitting using anxiety causing agents, such as allergy-producing foods, for me. i made progress beforehand... but that has really helped. i now consume only hemp seeds (except for the occasional deviation where i try to eat other food), and quite honestly, i'm (even though admittedly still full of everything i was) better off than I ever was. I only wish I had come to it sooner. I'm sacrificing a lot by doing it, and I am afraid of certain deficits, and worry about my health (this is getting long and about me I know but I've been on a writing kick, so please excuse if you must.), but I'll work on things...

so... how is your diet? you don't need to answer me... but diet really, really effects people.

i don't mean to say "be like me"- but have you tried hemp seed? it's claimed to improve mood/stabilize it, with a lot of other health benefits. it offers the perfect ratio of fatty acids that the human body needs. i haven't been as pure with it as i have been the past week or so, and my mood has improved, especially around people. i used to think i was just one of those people that didn't pick up on social cues quite as much or as fast at least, or knew what to do with them... couldn't hold a conversation... couldn't start one. couldn't even talk. didn't pick up on the same emotions as others, at the same time.. but now, i just enjoy it. not overwhelming.. but anyway.. i wish i had found out about hemp, and how easily it can sustain me, before i nearly destroyed my digestive system with sugar and allergens (I do talk about this a lot), and overeating because allergy=food addiction. sorry if this seems too much about me.. i'm just opening up. trying to relate my situation, and what i know, to you. try hemp. perhaps don't eat only hemp (though maybe try it for a few days and see how it treats you, but if you can, and i imagine you can.. do eat other food as well of course.), but definitely include it in your diet or try it. omega 3 fish oil might benefit you as well. and one thing i just found to really relax me, seemingly, is topical magnesium chloride spray (with other minerals). I bought a bottle of this tonight, and wow. I sprayed myself down with it. Headache went away. Energy. I feel soft. I feel like making out with my non-existent girlfriend, and falling asleep. Peaceful.

I really am curious what your diet is like, now. There are so many approaches you can take to attack this "demon" of yours. Perhaps find other ways of exercise. Aerobic. Other outlets.. hiking in fresh air... swimming. There are so many rewarding things you can do alone that might actually attract others to you, by subtle changes you will make over time.

And work on smiling. Just smile. Your muscles are linked pretty intimately with the brain... even when you fake a smile that region/those regions that would be involved with you naturally smiling are going to light up, and it should have some positive effect.. . or so I have heard, and it does seem right. Exercise that way. So many ways, no one magic bullet.


You need to find happiness in yourself. You need to be a reason for happiness in others (don't depend on finding rocks in the stream, be the rock in the stream)-(or let go and float down stream/relax)--(both). You've had it rough, and that gives you an advantage. You know certain darkness in a way that might have benefit for society, even if you're just another flap of a butterfly's wings. Try to stay positive. Believe me though, I'm a hypocrite about half of the time for everything I say... so don't think I'm faking it. I'm choosing light. I...

oh, this was about you, wasn't it? ;)


I'm not a professional though. Just a guy thinking and trying to please himself. I just don't want you to think I think I am (a prof or whatever), because I guess I do care about what you think about me, and I hope I can be of benefit. It's genetic in part, the expression of this trait. Sometimes very self defeating (it would seem), though...

...what others think.
 
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btw knowing of your presence in my surroundings is the reason i keep one in the chamber

...he kept one in the chamber knowing of your presence. What does that make you?
You suck. The whole reason he went to jail is because it's easier to pull a trigger, just as it's easier to put of someone as permanently crazy, fucked up, insane, sociopathic, etc. instead of fixing the problem. All problems can be fixed...although I'm sure you're not thinking so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hILUVwMKjx8
 
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I don't know about that. I'm not sure you could get me to pick up a gun and start shooting at someone. Even if my life was threatened, I'd have a really hard time with it. Probably do it..self preservation and all that, but there is no way I'd pick up a gun and shoot someone out of anger.

Yeah... I've gotten into my fair share of fights and I'll admit to having taken the unfair advantage a few times, too. But I would never shoot someone who only attacked me with his body. Bro, that guy got the jump on you. Sure, he sucker'd you, and he called you names, but so fucking what? That isn't cause for shooting him. I.E. I still think there's more to this story.
 
Then what about earlier tonight, for instance: I was driving around in a parking lot and there was one 30-year-old walking by herself towards her car (I assume). I looked at her, and she looked at me. Then her mouth became twisted in an unmistakenly contemptuous way and she mouthed 3 words to me. Pissed off, I hit the breaks and slammed my car in reverse and followed her for a distance. She started walking a hell of a lot faster and entered her car with great haste. I think she realized that I knew she was running me down, hence why she became startled when I followed her a short distance.

I didn't hear what she said, but since her mouth was contorted contemptuously, it's safe to assume it was something negative. As I wrote, there was nobody else with her, so the words were directed at me.

Anyway, this shit it getting too weird. I've had enough of it. I'll see the psychologist next year and hear what he or she thinks about all this business.

Thanks for the replies, everyone.

Also this is really fucking scary. She got scared when you followed her because some big dude was chasing her with his car in a fucking parking lot, man! Not because she was out to get you and you caught her! I mean jesus christ. I guarantee you people dont give two fucks about you until you start acting like you're a deranged motherfucker about to go on a rampage. Maybe people wouldnt act strangely toward you if you didnt follow them around or stare them down whenever you hallucinate a conspiracy.
 
Honestly a body can be just as lethal. Accidents happen.

I have never thrown a punch myself because I'm afraid of causing permanent body injury. If you hit the nose just right it can kill you. Glass jaw""? Knock them down and they hit their head on a rock or concrete and bleed out? These thinks keep me from fighting. Even when I have, I've gone the route of subduing by threat of suffocation/restricting air freedom. Never thrown a punch because it scares me and its never got to that.

At least with a gun he can aim and shoot a knee.
By that arguement depending on the beast level of attacker/lack of control, a gun is fine.

Premeditated however?
How much of a continued threat is the attacker?

Violence still isn't good, but this could make things more understandable. Not as if unprovoked, is all. Not saying he'd be right...
 
^ ah firstly, the Ops attacker did not use lethal force, as the OP was able to go back and get a gun from his car. Hence, he could of escaped safely. Instead he chose to go back there and go try and kill the guy with a bone fided lethal weapon. a gun.

The Op needs urgent psychiatric help. from what he has written it is pretty obvious that he is close to becoming a danger to others. the story about following a woman in the parking lot is particularly worrying.
 
Please read his post on what he did before bringing in guns and self defense. This guy got his ass kicked (ok, anyone would be pissed as hell), he goes back to his car, gets a gun, comes back and shoots the guy SIX FUCKING TIMES. This was not self-defense. This is a clear issue with violence, and add to it he's now paranoid that people are talking about him. It's scary. He even follows a chick in his car because he thinks she's looking at him. Really? That's what you do to a total stranger? That's insane. Do you even know how scared that poor girl was? She was probably thinking this guy is about to hurt her.

He needs a psychiatrist. This wasn't self-defense. This was clear-cut violence, and anger issues with the paranoia is dangerous as hell.
 
Well I feel a little dumb. Was that in his first post? All I've said I don't take back, but that's some consideration. It would still seem that he has some history of of abuse from his peers though. I have felt rage as well, but I was lucky enough to grow up without so much peer abuse, but some of the kids I remember weren't so lucky.... My old dog wasn't so lucky, when his dog behavior irritated me, when I was 11 or 12, training him at a club. Secretly abused him right in front of people... Pinching his ears hard because of my own nervousnous. There's do much we just have to learn, some of us... We just have to be evil to know its evil. And I think those people can have the potential because of that past to recognize it. I probably did more, too...

Anyway, the dog attacked me one day. He had gotten outside and I had an awards ceremony to get to and hadn't the time. I pulled my usual trick, throwing a stick right near me, him getting it, and I pounce and grab his collar. This time though he started growling... So I got up and backed off. Then he proceeded to chase me attacking me, biting me multiple times... Puncture wounds in my legs and ass. If I had had a gun,he would have got his.

He was however a violent animal, starting fights, and winning... Against larger dogs like siberian huskies, and once nearly killed a toy dog by picking it up snarling, ragdolling it. It did nearly die. These things happened before I hurt him. He was also the runt of the litter... The last of his litter to go besides the one best pick going to the family. Golden Retrievers. Insecurity is dangerous.

Toward the end I was fighting the animal, establishing dominance. He nearly killed the husky one night. Had a death grip. I picked the mother fucker up and body slammed him and started screaming abuse, pinning him then dragging him home... Nearly crying.

I don't know. Humans may be more adaptable, but I can't help but to somewhat understand that there are things at play and yea, this guy still deserves compassion, especially because he wants to get better not be like this. It's a big show of strength and hope that he even came forward and posted about it... With such consciousness. Some of our replies have been way unhelpful, but the truth keeps coming. He needs help. The fucking state should have mandated it until at least age 40. Prison doesn't rehab.

Sorry for thinking I understood completely, but I guess Im still getting the same image as before. Just the extent of acting out was under-known. Still, I don't think he is such a threat as before.

And Dead, if you lived in Indy, I would offer my company to you. Perhaps the only thing that separates us is our fear of getting caught. I've wanted to dish punishment a lot of times. Not that I seek friends, but I honestly have no problem talking to people occasionally.
Take care of yourself.
 
What? DeadLife wasn't raped, he shot someone who beat his ass. The question of whether I would shoot someone who was raping me is fucking moronic and totally unrelated to the subject.

It's totally relevant. Would you shoot someone who was raping you? Yes or no? You said, and i quote here, "But I would never shoot someone who only attacked me with his body." Raping is attacking with your body. So you wouldn't shoot me if I handed you a loaded gun and then proceeded to beat the shit out of you and subsequently rape you?
 
It may not be self defense, but I think temporary insanity would actually be very valid in that instance. I am not sure anyone who hasn't been knocked out over some bullshit would understand. When it happened to me I woke up fighting and wanting to kill, even though I had never had that urge in my life. People were trying to help me up but I didn't understand and thought they were attacking me and lashed out. Cursed out a bunch of people who were trying to make sure I was OK and shit. It really isn't fair to judge the actions of people who have just experienced violence like that. It is easy to say you would do something different until you are in that situation bleeding in the dirt, or watching a welt the size of a grapefruit swell up on your face in the mirror. I may have gotten past the urge to "get back" at people who have wronged me, but personally I would kill without hesitation to prevent it happening again.
 
Those who haven't been visited with violence cannot understand what happens in the mind of someone who has experienced that.
We men hate what we fear, and kill what we hate. It's nature, millions of years of evolution on the savanna.

The OP should never have been jailed for this in my opinion, had I been on the jury, it would have been a not guilty by reason of temporary insanity.
Or reasons of natural instincts taking control.

We don't imprison or put to death lions which murder antelope.
The guy who attacked him, could easily have killed him outright, or the OP could even have been dying from brain bleed as he went to his car.
How could he be consciously responsible for violent actions, after having his seat of consciousness, the brain, subjected to severe violent stress by the other person.

The other person deserved in my opinion, to die for what he did, he used lethal violence against another human.

It's one thing to attack and risk killing someone who hasn't done anything physically violent against yourself, ie what was done against the OP, and totally something else to react with violence against that initial violence.

Possibly the hallucinations, PTSD, and paranoid delusions the op is now experiencing is a result of head trauma from that night, so quite likely the violence visited apon the OP has caused enduring harm.
I hope that the person who got the six bullets has suffered just as much, hopefully paralyzed or damaged somehow, so he will be physically unable to enact unprovoked violence on anyone else.

Imagine how many other people this person would have attacked before the OP put him down, if anything the OP has done others a favor by preventing further violent attacks from this person.

If people were allowed to respond to violent attacks which can cause death, by killing the attacker with a gun, within a certain timeframe of course, perhaps there wouldn't be so many people suffering violent attacks.



I've experienced violence against myself, and have visited violence in return, BUT never would I harm another who had not done such a thing to start with.

Killing is acceptable, as one example look at when soldiers go to another country, and kill people, despite not even being able to claim self defense.
I say any force is ok in response to a violent attacker, else the victim will always be the one with l head split open like a melon and brains on the street, when it should be the other way round.


I fully support the OP, I recommend therapy, mental therapy from a psych doctor, speech therapy possibly, and see a sex therapist for good measure just in case, they will help you change your mental body image.
Please don't visit violence against anyone however just for saying stuff, however nasty, sticks and stones.....
 
Those who haven't been visited with violence cannot understand what happens in the mind of someone who has experienced that.
We men hate what we fear, and kill what we hate. It's nature, millions of years of evolution on the savanna.

The OP should never have been jailed for this in my opinion, had I been on the jury, it would have been a not guilty by reason of temporary insanity.
Or reasons of natural instincts taking control.

We don't imprison or put to death lions which murder antelope.
The guy who attacked him, could easily have killed him outright, or the OP could even have been dying from brain bleed as he went to his car.
How could he be consciously responsible for violent actions, after having his seat of consciousness, the brain, subjected to severe violent stress by the other person.

The other person deserved in my opinion, to die for what he did, he used lethal violence against another human.

It's one thing to attack and risk killing someone who hasn't done anything physically violent against yourself, ie what was done against the OP, and totally something else to react with violence against that initial violence.

Possibly the hallucinations, PTSD, and paranoid delusions the op is now experiencing is a result of head trauma from that night, so quite likely the violence visited apon the OP has caused enduring harm.
I hope that the person who got the six bullets has suffered just as much, hopefully paralyzed or damaged somehow, so he will be physically unable to enact unprovoked violence on anyone else.

Imagine how many other people this person would have attacked before the OP put him down, if anything the OP has done others a favor by preventing further violent attacks from this person.

If people were allowed to respond to violent attacks which can cause death, by killing the attacker with a gun, within a certain timeframe of course, perhaps there wouldn't be so many people suffering violent attacks.



I've experienced violence against myself, and have visited violence in return, BUT never would I harm another who had not done such a thing to start with.

Killing is acceptable, as one example look at when soldiers go to another country, and kill people, despite not even being able to claim self defense.
I say any force is ok in response to a violent attacker, else the victim will always be the one with l head split open like a melon and brains on the street, when it should be the other way round.


I fully support the OP, I recommend therapy, mental therapy from a psych doctor, speech therapy possibly, and see a sex therapist for good measure just in case, they will help you change your mental body image.
Please don't visit violence against anyone however just for saying stuff, however nasty, sticks and stones.....

You sir, are an idiot
 
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