I’m a trans woman - AMA

[arrall]

Thanks for the considered reply, very interesting.

My second question of course touches on a truly super-complex and (for some) a highly emotionally evocative issue. I get where you're coming from but don't necessarily 100% agree but that's a diversion from this thread. You do however ask me a couple of questions which I'm choosing to read as rhetorical (atm anyway) so as not to bog thread down and also so I don't get drawn in to lengthy debate this evening as my attention needs to be elsewhere

Yeah, the second question responses are rhetorical.
I don't have all the answers there and my views on the subject have heavily changed in recent years as I said.
I would be happy to debate those views and hear you out in CEP in the future, but I agree that my AMA thread would not be an appropriate place for such a discussion.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Yeah, the second question responses are rhetorical.
I don't have all the answers there and my views on the subject have heavily changed in recent years as I said.
I would be happy to debate those views and hear you out in CEP in the future, but I agree that my AMA thread would not be an appropriate place for such a discussion.

I don't post in that subforum due to sanity issues

I may well PM you though at some point about it though if you're ok with that? I've got a particular interest in the issue from a specific angle, and lived experience is what I want to hear (I've already heard a lot so it's not new ground for me). Good to hear your position has evolved, change/growth is inevitable and continues in the years ahead. If we're open to it anyway.

Back on topic - how do you respond to being deadnamed? I guess it's circumstantial?

 

[bvc]

Have you ever thought about giving birth to a child?

 

[arrall]

I may well PM you though at some point about it though if you're ok with that? I've got a particular interest in the issue from a specific angle, and lived experience is what I want to hear (I've already heard a lot so it's not new ground for me). Good to hear your position has evolved, change/growth is inevitable and continues in the years ahead. If we're open to it anyway.

Yes, feel free to PM me!

Back on topic - how do you respond to being deadnamed? I guess it's circumstantial?

Definitely circumstantial, but generally quite poorly.
My deadname is not only extremely dysphoric for me for gender reasons but also due to severe childhood trauma.
If someone makes a mistake, I'll correct them and move on.
If it seemed intentional, I obviously would not react well.
If it is at the bank or when dealing with the government, I probably won't say anything if it is someone I am not likely to interact with again.
And at one of my jobs, I am not out because I mostly work from home and my boss has expressed very right-wing personal political views.
I'm structured as a contractor so I have no employment protections, but I plan to eventually come out and then move on to another job if it goes poorly.

Have you ever thought about giving birth to a child?

No, I have not.
I do not believe it is scientifically possible, and I actually do not want children.
I decided not to freeze my sperm because of the modest financial cost.
I plan to adopt if I ever change my mind.

 

[bvc]

I do not believe it is scientifically possible, and I actually do not want children.

Im worried it's not but hope it is. I read a few years ago that a scientist was trying to create an artificial womb. The last time was a long time ago (an attempt). I hope for the trans wo.en that want it that eventually they will.

 

[arrall]

Im worried it's not but hope it is. I read a few years ago that a scientist was trying to create an artificial womb. The last time was a long time ago (an attempt). I hope for the trans wo.en that want it that eventually they will.

With the current state of the world, I consider adoption to be more ethical, but that's a whole other discussion.

 

[chippermonk]

Adopted children are every bit as real and valid as any other child

 

[mal3volent]

I think that said nomenclature (e.g. MtF) is useful terminology to use when someone is changing their body to match their gender and how they feel inside.

Perhaps but it's still not accurate is it? If gender is a social construct and distinct from biological sex, shouldn't we use terms that indicate gender like trans woman rather than "MtF". Male to female implies there is a way for a male to become a female, which there obviously isn't.

 

[streaM Freak]

Not sure who can relate.. but for me it's impossible to explain something as personal and indescribable as feelings with precise accuracy. And I don't believe anyone owes an explanation for their feelings. The fact that arrall even made this thread is being extremely vulnerable and should be commended.

 

[arrall]

Perhaps but it's still not accurate is it? If gender is a social construct and distinct from biological sex, shouldn't we use terms that indicate gender like trans woman rather than "MtF". Male to female implies there is a way for a male to become a female, which there obviously isn't.

Someone’s physiological transition is transitioning from aligning with their biological sex to the other.
e.g. the way my body functions and looks is becoming far more like a biological female than a biological male, regardless of chromosomes
Most trans women even start experiencing phantom menstrual cycles after being on HRT for a while

 

[cnnka]

What would you think would be the outcome if you embraced your masculine side with hormones (testosterone) instead of estrogen ?
I mean do you feel or have you think about that that’s okay you were born a male but don’t feel masculine enough etc what would happen if you tried to embrace your masculinity with hormones would those thoughts and doubts go away ?

 

[4DQSAR]

I was just discussing such things with my oldest friend (38+ years) and they transitioned around 19 years ago. But they are still the same person - just happier. Happier in spite of being used to wage a culture war.

Trasvestite - person who wears clothing society associated with another gender.
Transgender - person whose mindset and emotions are associated with another gender.

Let's not forget that this is not a simple issue but other societies accept that at kathoey is a third gender, tom a forth.

But what we both noted is that trans-men are possibly the least visible or should I say, the least newsworthy. No men claiming to have been molested in a public bathroom by a tom.

BTW I use the term tom for convenience, but Sao Praphet Song (สาวประเภทสอง) is a much nicer way of thinking about it.

 

[mal3volent]

Transgender - person whose mindset and emotions are associated with another gender.

What are the mindset and emotions of each gender ?

 

[Deleted member 595929]

Do you think this whole push back against trans people, aside from political reasons, is the same as with any change that's happened in society before or does it feel different to you, from your perspective now? Does it feel targeted or does it feel like a broad issue with society we have right now?

I've felt all my life that we as humans, just aren't ready to transcend to a good life. We've fixed many things in our lives and then we ourselves ruined them. For example, removed many diseases, then started wars, then found a way to make a lot of food, then made humans wage slaves and so on. Is, ruining people being happy from taking hormones and changing their lifestyle, another one of those things? Is it a human problem or just a period we're in right now with a very specific focus? My feeling is, if it's a human problem, this push back won't go away any time soon, it might actually take thousands of years of changes, assuming we don't disappear by then.

 

[arrall]

What would you think would be the outcome if you embraced your masculine side with hormones (testosterone) instead of estrogen ?
I mean do you feel or have you think about that that’s okay you were born a male but don’t feel masculine enough etc what would happen if you tried to embrace your masculinity with hormones would those thoughts and doubts go away ?

Well I tried that.
Took Tongkat Ali and Tribulus and Cistanche and whatnot to raise my testosterone in a natural way.
Hit the gym a ton for years.
Tried to act and dress in ways that were more "masculine".
It never felt right and always felt like playing a character in a play.

I never felt like "myself" or comfortable in my own body until I started taking hormones and presenting as female.

 

[arrall]

Let's not forget that this is not a simple issue but other societies accept that at kathoey is a third gender, tom a forth.

I think that it is important to note that (as far as I know) these terms are used to denote non-binary genders, which are separate from trans men or women.
I think that you make some good points nonetheless.

No men claiming to have been molested in a public bathroom by a tom.

Trans women have always been useful scapegoats for politicians and right-wing media because of transmisogyny.
It is a lot harder for them to paint trans men negatively, so instead they paint transmasculinity as a "disease" affecting "young girls".
The video below covers this well:

 

[arrall]

Do you think this whole push back against trans people, aside from political reasons, is the same as with any change that's happened in society before or does it feel different to you, from your perspective now? Does it feel targeted or does it feel like a broad issue with society we have right now?

I've felt all my life that we as humans, just aren't ready to transcend to a good life. We've fixed many things in our lives and then we ourselves ruined them. For example, removed many diseases, then started wars, then found a way to make a lot of food, then made humans wage slaves and so on. Is, ruining people being happy from taking hormones and changing their lifestyle, another one of those things? Is it a human problem or just a period we're in right now with a very specific focus? My feeling is, if it's a human problem, this push back won't go away any time soon, it might actually take thousands of years of changes, assuming we don't disappear by then.

I think that it is functionally identical to the Anita Bryant-led gay panic of the 70s and 80s, as people like Contrapoints (see the video below) have observed.
The Epstein class needs a scapegoat to distract from their rampant exploitation and violence committed the working class.
That's all it is.

I agree with you that humanity keeps abusing and squandering our potential to create a utopian or near-utopian society.
I don't really know how to solve it, but I fear that the greed of those in power and the ignorance of the masses (who refuse to rise up and seize said power) may wipe us out very soon.

 

[Deleted member 595929]

who refuse to rise up and seize said power

And refuse to even try to work around it in such a way, that makes their power insignificant eventually. Basically distributing it amongst each other while elites are only left with their own small circles and nothing else.

 

[Asclepius]

"The Epstein class needs a scapegoat to distract from their rampant exploitation and violence committed the working class.
That's all it is."

I've been on these boards & interacted with trans people & had the honour of never experiencing them spout this bullshit ideology re. "Working class" = Transgender...

This is the bullshit (like Kim Kardashian being a "feminist icon")...that turns people against genuine people who want to go through life without being stereotyped.

Martine Rothblatt- millionaire
Jennifer Pritzker... billionaire...so, many others...

This is the most Illogical argument to make about an already, irrational situation -difficult situation for trans people who just want to live in peace.


... your point is stupid beyond the novelty of seeking pop attention.

Why would you even? It's just attention-seeking, am guessing ( selling fetish)? Or do you actually believe this shit - i.e. that pharma backing NGOs, actually care about people's welfare? They don't - when they were selling ADHD drugs to kids in the 90s, it was a scandal - now,they got a hook on the "pity the trans" brigade. It's kind of pathetic that any conscious adult would indulge that, imho.

 

[arrall]

"The Epstein class needs a scapegoat to distract from their rampant exploitation and violence committed the working class.
That's all it is."

I've been on these boards & interacted with trans people & had the honour of never experiencing them spout this bullshit ideology re. "Working class" = Transgender...

This is the bullshit (like Kim Kardashian being a "feminist icon")...that turns people against genuine people who want to go through life without being stereotyped.

Martine Rothblatt- millionaire
Jennifer Pritzker... billionaire...so, many others...

This is the most Illogical argument to make about an already, irrational situation -difficult situation for trans people who just want to live in peace.


... your point is stupid beyond the novelty of seeking pop attention.

Why would you even? It's just attention-seeking, am guessing ( selling fetish)? Or do you actually believe this shit - i.e. that pharma backing NGOs, actually care about people's welfare? They don't - when they were selling ADHD drugs to kids in the 90s, it was a scandal - now,they got a hook on the "pity the trans" brigade. It's kind of pathetic that any conscious adult would indulge that, imho.

Did you have a question, or something coherent to say?

Yes, the ruling class and right wing scapegoat minorities and utilize culture war bullshit to distract us from their removal of basic human rights and mass exploitation of labour as they bleed the economy dry.

Yes, there are a handful of wealthy trans people. That has nothing to do with the assertion I was making.

No, I don’t think that “big pharma” is pushing people to transition.

Please take the angry ramblings to CEP.