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Hypothesis of the origin of species: Aliens.

I think that human evolution was not completely natural, that some aliens showed up and saw our early ancestors, so they tweaked the genetic code a bit to have us evolve into how we are now much faster than normal.

I also think that our souls were created and are somehow fused to the human avatar for its lifetime, that there's more going on with humans than just being "highly-evolved apes"

Perhaps we were created to be a slave race, perhaps not. I haven't made up my mind on that one.

I do think on some level we are avatars of sorts collecting experiences and bringing them back to some higher lifeform that is made up of multiple consciousnesses.

It is all very confusing. I have been spiritually visited before by higher beings who tried to explain some of this stuff to me but it's kind of over my head.
 
Yea I've thought about this before, When ufo's come and visit how it is basically like a research project probably for them to come check up on. They may have thousands or even millions of other planets with life in different stages of development that they monitor, each its own little petri dish. Straight up mind boggling.
 
But what about the aliens, were they products of research from another source?

It's always been an interesting theory, but too close to "God" for my tastes. Doesn't answer much of anything.
 
Why couldn't they just have evolved naturally on some other world, perhaps a world much older than ours? Life evolves naturally on this planet. It "doesn't answer anything" in a spiritual sense for some maybe, but for me, understanding who we are and where we truly came from (filling in the missing pieces from our history) would be an incredibly deep and spiritual experience.
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
Why couldn't they just have evolved naturally on some other world, perhaps a world much older than ours? Life evolves naturally on this planet. It "doesn't answer anything" in a spiritual sense for some maybe, but for me, understanding who we are and where we truly came from (filling in the missing pieces from our history) would be an incredibly deep and spiritual experience.
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Why couldn't they? Well they could. Why couldn't we? Like I said it's an entertaining theory, but takes away from our "lottery winning odds". It takes away from our human story. In place of a "God" there is an alien life form.

As Hawking stated, "Think of it from their point of view; what would be the incentive to travel thousands of light years at the cost of an unknown, yet highly huge energy expense? Almost, none."

DNA has come to recognize itself, and as Dawkings has said, "We have been born out of an intellectual coma and just now waking up and realizing the world around us. Our greatest purpose is to answer questions about the world and universe that surrounds us." The alien theory just puts a spin on preexisting religious ancestral worship. Or being in awe of anything but ourselves, and our existence.

I don't want to come off as aggressive towards any said opinion. Just expressing mine.
 
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I think that if such aliens exist and they have influence on the human race (which makes far more sense to me than religion ever has) then it's quite likely that these creatures will want to position themselves as "gods". I love how Stargate SG-1 approached the subject with the Goul'd race of aliens and their desire to enslave humans and have a big superiority complex.

To me some alien race with advanced technology proclaiming themselves to be gods is far more realistic than some all-knowing omniscient being who created everything and expects you to follow arbitrary rules to go to a heaven or hell. I do believe there is some sort of lifeforce, but I'm much more inclined to believe in an alien race having influence over humanity than some singular superbeing.
 
As Hawking stated, "Think of it from their point of view; what would be the incentive to travel thousands of light years at the cost of an unknown, yet highly huge energy expense? Almost, none."
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What would be the incentive? I dunno, greed maybe? Need? Resources? Who knows?

What if there was some element or mineral or something they needed from earth at the time? Some people think they were here for Gold. It doesn't seem too far fetched to me that some more advanced race would possibly travel around space checking out other planets and seeing what resources they could take from them (and possibly creating/using the life there as helpers/slaves in that effort) if they had the capabilities.

Look at how badly we've drained our mother earth. We mine her, cut down forests, dig for oil, etc etc. Does it really seem that outlandish that other species could do the same thing on a more advanced level?

I think what Hawking said is pretty narrowminded. We have no IDEA what life might be like for another species out there, or what their circumstance is. We have no idea what the expense might be for them, or their reasons. It's typical human ignorance, seeing things only from a limited human perspective and not being able to expand upon that to levels we might not be able to comprehend.
 
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Well he also said that we should be fearful about giving off signals that explain our whereabouts because they, like us; could be nomads. And use up resources. However their need to use up resources to further space travel doesn't explain why they would travel light years to plant the seed of life to study it. Or even to come by and hijack rednecks to study them.

Hawking is anything but narrow minded he was just expressing what he thought. Saying it was narrow minded is somewhat of an insult to his intelligence.

As I said though, this theory is just a spin on ancestral worship and takes away from our own significance. As do all religions.

If they planted the seed of life here on earth, their first attempt must have been Mars. Which...Failed. It had water, it had an atmosphere, it also had a protective magnetic field. Now, it's a dead planet. Just doesn't make sense to me.
 
Look, I don't know ANYTHING about Hawking. I am commenting only on that ONE sentence, which does seem narrowminded to me.

I don't believe they planted the seed of life here at all. I believe life was here, and evolved naturally, and then they showed up and somehow altered the species of "early man" that was here. Like I said, this is not a religion, or particularly anything spiritual for me, other than the way I feel all life and interesting things are spiritual just by being a part of my life. I don't understand how any of this is religious?

Why would it take away from our own significance? It certainly doesn't for me.
 
It's like a religion because you're saying one species, all-knowing, more knowledgable, etc. Came here and made us who we are. They came from the past to help our future. It takes the significance away because we are here because of ancestors that were successors, they survived and evolved. We're here completely by accident. At any rate, I'll let others comment I've flooded this one :o
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
I don't believe they planted the seed of life here at all. I believe life was here, and evolved naturally, and then they showed up and somehow altered the species of "early man" that was here. Like I said, this is not a religion, or particularly anything spiritual for me, other than the way I feel all life and interesting things are spiritual just by being a part of my life. I don't understand how any of this is religious?
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It is my understanding that this is the case, and I am not at all religious either. It would only be religious if you chose to worship the beings who interfered, which I find unnecessary.
 
It's like a religion because you're saying one species, all-knowing, more knowledgable, etc.
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More knowledgeable, probably. All knowing? I definitely don't believe that at all. That would be like saying we are all knowing because we have scientific capabilities we didn't have 100 years ago (computers, net, etc). Just because they might have been more advanced in some ways doesn't make them perfect, all knowing, "Gods", etc. But it makes sense one might think of them as Gods if they had advanced understandings of the universe and science.

They came from the past to help our future.
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Hmm.. I guess you are addressing someone elses post because I don't think that either. I mean, not that time travel isn't an interesting and trippy thing to think about, but I find it much more likely they just came from another galaxy or something, traveling about.
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
More knowledgeable, probably. All knowing? I definitely don't believe that at all. That would be like saying we are all knowing because we have scientific capabilities we didn't have 100 years ago (computers, net, etc). Just because they might have been more advanced in some ways doesn't make them perfect, all knowing, "Gods", etc. But it makes sense one might think of them as Gods if they had advanced understandings of the universe and science.



Hmm.. I guess you are addressing someone elses post because I don't think that either. I mean, not that time travel isn't an interesting and trippy thing to think about, but I find it much more likely they just came from another galaxy or something, traveling about.
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I couldn't help but come back on this. I didn't mean all knowing as literal..Something/someone more advanced (knowledgable technological) giving us life. So, in this theory they're God-like. Putitng life on earth.

If they're advanced, they would have to come from the past. They would have to have lived in an earlier portion of the universe. Then, travel (in their perspective) to the future (out) to plant the seed of life on earth (but Mars first) :)
 
I mean, not that time travel isn't an interesting and trippy thing to think about, but I find it much more likely they just came from another galaxy or something, traveling about.
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Who knows if there is such a thing as time travel or if aliens even acknowledge time, I dont know. Obviously if we are being visited by a alien species? they are most likely advanced but what exactly do mean by advanced? I completely believe there is something out there. I do think they have the ability to control some realm of nature or maybe just bend it. The truth is out there somewhere.

peace.
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I don't think it's far fetched at all to think that life on earth was put here by some extraterrestrial source, whether the seeding was purposely done or accidental. If existence is as as old as it is (and maybe eternal), then that leaves plenty of time and circumstances for a life form to evolve that had the ability to bring life into being on this planet, in some way or another. It's not something provable or even scientific, therefore. But not outside the realm of possibility, and definitely cool to ponder.
 
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