Opioids Hydromorphone (rectal or snorted) vs Oxymorphone (snorted) [recreational use]

[arthunter888]

There probably have been several 'oxymorphone vs hydromorphone' threads before, but they all seem to be concerning IV and I can't find any that focus on comparing them via the nasal/rectal routes for those who don't shoot. I have done OC, HC, OM, dope, morphine, but NOT fent or HM.

To preface, 1st-hand AND 2nd-hand experimentation confirms that Oxymorphone is more efficient recreationally when snorted compared to rectal, so let's assume the oxymorphone (IR) is snorted.

Unlike OM, for hydromorphone it seems that for some people rectal is better, and others snorting is better. So, rectal and/or nasal hydromorphone can be compared to only-nasal oxymorphone.

So the main thing I'm looking for is comparison of the feeling/vibe of the highs. It's hard to accurately depict a subjective feeling, but with descriptive words and metaphors you can get the points across. Assume equally-potent doses of each.

[For example, I'll do oxymorphone vs oxycodone to show the format I'd like to see. OC feels more speedy, while OM feels more sedating. OC feels more lucid/alert, while OM feels more dreamy/noddy. They seem to feel equally as 'clean' (unlike morphine which feels real dirty and raw). OM has a mental security blanket that destroys all worries/anxiety, while OC lacks this and can actually be stimulating and anxiety provoking at times. The OC body high is light, with tingling pleasure waves emanating from mainly the arms and legs, while the OM body high is heavy, with tingling pleasure waves running up and down the spine.]

This is the type of format I'd like to see.

I have the option of acquiring EITHER a bunch of Opana IR pills (10mg), OR acquiring a bunch of Hydromorphone IR pills (8mg). I have much experience with OM, but never tried HM. The element I most prefer from the OM is the lovely dreamy nods. I know hydromorphone has a pathetic duration, but this is not my concern because re-dosing is not a problem at all. I am mainly concerned with the nature/intensity of the nod and the overall high.

I absolutely love everything about Opana, but I get such horrible mini-withdrawals the days following it, enough to consider choosing HM over it if it's worth it. My tolerance is low (I get nice and itchy at 20mg oxycodone oral). Try to be as specific as possible.

 

[the necropolitan]

Hydromorphone IMHO is near useless unless you're going to IV it. I snorted, ate, and plugged my share of it and never got beyond a vague feeling of euphoria and not being sick. None of the rush that IV users talk about, which, by the way, only lasts about 30 seconds by the time I did get around to banging it.

Oxymorophone snorted and eaten was a long-lasting, pleasurable high, however, so I'd say don't even bother trying hydromorphone unless you're prepared to bang it, and even if you were, I'd say that oxymorphone is still the far superior option. Hydromorphone's subjective high is almost entire euphoria, little body load, by the way. I don't even think I achieved a nod on it at any point, regardless of the ROA or dose.

 

[arthunter888]

I forgot to mention that my tolerance is low (noddy and itchy at 20mg oxycodone swallowed).

I presume that people who are dependent or have a high tolerance will say HM is useless. Keep in mind, I only want a comparison assuming that you have taken an adequate dose for your tolerance level. Again, dose is NOT an object for me, b/c the supply is going to be virtually infinite at a very cheap price. If you failed to catch a buzz, do not compare further. I want a comparison of the actual high, not the lack of high.