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koolkid

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hi. i have only taken opiats a few times but i never got high off of them. i took 15mg hydrocodone and felt nothing. so i took 5 5/500mg hydros & was feeling good but nothing special, & i fell alseep 2 1/2 hours through it. i want 2 take 8 & i next time, will this be too much for a newbie ? 2 much apap ? & how long would this high last.
 
that is seriously too much tylenol
i mean that is getting into the range of doing internal damage and shit
 
Originally posted by stardreamer:
that is seriously too much tylenol
i mean that is getting into the range of doing internal damage and shit
Bullshit! 4g of APAP isnt enough to do any liver damage... yeah, you wouldnt want to do that on a daily basis for years but your body can handle more then you think..... please dont give advice when you dont know what the hell you're talking about!
We have already had a thread on hydrocodone dosing - http://www.bluelight.ru/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=48&t=000048 - that details LIQUID HYDROCODONE but it's baically the same... if you didnt feel 5mg (and that doesnt surprise me, 15mg ain't shit!) try taking about 30mg!
THIS THREAD GETS A RATING OF 4/10
 
4g is the highest recommended daily dosage. Now take into consideration that these numbers usually allow you a little leeway(sp?). 4g is not gonna kill you, I would not take anymore than 5-6g though ever at one time. If you feel any ill physical effects due to the APAP (the possible high-dose side effects are listed on www.erowid.com somewhere) dont' take that dose anymore. If you wanna go high dose then just do a cold water extraction, its very simple, do a search and you'll find the procedure.
 
They say not to exceed something like 7g per day, but it wont kill you if you have a healthy set of organs .. again, even an amount like 4g in a day could pose a risk if you took that much for months and months you could run into problems - but I have taken over 14g at once with no problems (that I know of, I might die tomorrow)
 
I once tried the codiene extraction from T1 (8mg codeine +325 APAP pills. I believe there were approx 30 or 40 of them crushed up. Unfortunately I was a novice to the procedure, and ended up drinking the mixture. I was surprised that there was such little APAP that was filtered out. My mistake was that I did not cool the solution long enough before drinking it, therefore the APAP flowed through and it was the most bitter mixture I have ever put into my body. I actually had convulsions but somehow forced it down. It looked opaque white.
325 mg APAP x 30 pills = 10g APAP. (Roughly). Give or take 1 gram
I am guessing that a few grams were filtered out.
Effects:
Regular codeine effects until 3 hours later when I had severe chest/stomach pains. It made me so sick.
The reason I am posting this:
The doctor said that the APAP could have possibly damaged my liver, had I increased the dose. He did however say not to take tylenol for a while. He did not rush me for a Liver test or anything, although I did end up taking one after.
So the point of the story is, I took approx 10 g APAP and survived.
It was NOT pleasant, and I do not recommend anyone attempt to do take large quantities of APAP without at least having a Liver function test.
People with unhealthy livers can not tolerate large doses of APAP, and can die a horrible death.
Thanks.
 
TOXICITY:
Dose
* Minimal toxic dose = 10gm (150mg/kg)
* Liver damage reported with single 6gm dose.
* Minimum lethal dose = 15 gm ( 300 mg/kg).
Factors affecting toxicity
1) amount taken
2) amount absorbed
3) activity of glucuronidation and sulfation systems
4) activity of microsomal oxidizing system
5) hepatic glutathione stores
Taking alot of APAP is not safe, you may not die, but it still isn't safe. 4mg isn't going to cause any damage if you don't do it alot, but over 4grams should be avoided.
 
therefore the APAP flowed through and it was the most bitter mixture I have ever put into my body.
actually, even w/o the tylenol, the solution is *very* bitter, no matter codeine, hyrocodone, or oxycodone. mix in alot of lemonade mix to mask the taste, then chase with a glass of water.
to the orginal postee: your fine with 4g apap, just don't drink.
 
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