Opioids Hydrocodone. Intranasally or orally? Which produces Better euphoria?

[Float777]

So I'm new here guys and I was just curious. So I have about 20 5/325 vics. For ME as an individual, what will
Produce the best results? Snorting or swallowing? CWE is out of the question. Also, I don't want to hear Anything about how snorting 5/325 is bad because it's only 5mg of good stuff and the rest is filler and apap, cause that was not my question . Now. Let's begin with my story.
My cousin came over one day about a year ago. Offered me a hydrocodone 7.5 he showed me how to prep it,and do it. Never snorted pills ever till that day,haven't stopped more than 2weeks at a time since. He taught me a swallowed pk is a wasted pk,always snort. I fell in love with the nice burn,the taste of the drip,and the feeling of having snorted it,the rush of doing it.

With tht being said you guys can probably give me the answers I'm trying to find with this info.

1 year use. Usually nonstop. I've done; vic 5,7.5,10mg and codiene 30mg. And oxycodone 5,7.5,10, and my favorite these tiny round percs that were 5mg PURE PERC NO APAP. for Christmas last year my girlfriend at the time fueled my habit because she knew I liked them,a bottle of 60 she got for her back. Sorry for my stupid scatterbrainedness. I weigh 115 lbs, high metabolism is a family gift/curse. My usual drug is hydro 7.5. But I've never researched ever..so I have ALWAYS snorted. And daily I usually snort 3-4 7.5 and when I have 5s I do usually 5-6 a day. So all this being said..is it more effective and saves pills to snort the 5s? Or is it more effective to swallow them? In my case. I got them at 5pm today and it's now, 1am and I've already done 5. What does everyone think?

 

[tricomb]

Do not snort compounded opioids. This topic has been covered probably once a day for the past ten years, you could have easily found the answers to your question by using the search function.

Hydrocodone is best absorbed orally, whoever told you "a swallowed pk is a wasted pk, always snort" was obviously no Einstein either. There's no such thing as "pure perc" but you probably mean oxycodone. Lots of people like to snort that, even though that too is much more efficient taken orally. Hydrocodone was formulated to be absorbed best via the oral route, with nearly 90% bioavailability. The only other viable alternative to the oral route of administration with hydrocodone is the rectal route.

Seriously, don't snort vicodin. You seem to already know a little bit about why it's stupid, the only people who snort vicodin are kids in middle school. Haven't you noticed how when you snort the vicodin, you don't get high? That should be the biggest indicator. Just take the pills orally and that will answer your question and you will wonder why you wasted so much time and energy trying to snort a bunch of bullshit.

 

[Float777]

Also,I have ADHD so...during w/d I get insanely depressed :/ too much emotions. I'm really REALLY going to quit after these are gone. I was just trying to get the MOST effect out of my last batch. Is it worth it for me to get on Suboxone? Because idk if I can handle a month of the emotional WD. The physical stuff is easy lmao. But mental WD is diff for me. It effects my brain and I can't control my emotions? I don't like that, cux I feel trapped at times during WD I get so flustered And filled with random surges of rage that i actually think I might be dangerous to someone for doing something as much as making a smart mouth remark to me. How long does it last? All the WD? I'm an addict..but you guys def know more than me. What should I do? Cold turkey or Suboxone? My insurance will cover every cent of suboxone,literally it's absolutely free.. No negativity please? I've just came to terms that I'm a drug addict. The last 3 years I've been getting high everyday of my life somehow. Coke,weed,spice,bath salt,MDMA,whatever anything. Mainly weed and pk. And I've realized that I used to be on a track to success and these pills this addiction, even high, I feel no need to play video game, to play guitar..which I have religiously played for 7 years...I'm fully aware that it's not too late to save my life and fix everything. Still Really young. But this is still a major deal to me and positivity and encouraging words and wisdom would really be helpful as to what to do after these pills are gone. Also I'm aware that every addict says these are my last...I've done it a billion times. But I never knew about Suboxone. Or outpatient rehab treatment... I've been ready to kick my drug habits for a long time. But this time it IS my last. It's my goodbye to an evil friend named hydrocodone. I always dreaded telling my girlfriend or my parents I have to go to rehab because I'm a drug addict. I know that this outpatient business is going to help me get my life BA k on track. -phew- I'm sorry everyone..I just had to get all of this off my chest and hear some positive reinforcement..I have no one in real life o talk to about this.

 

[tricomb]

Your talking about gettin on maintenance drugs for a 15-30mg SNORTED Vicodin habit. Because it's snorted, only a small fraction of this actually manages to reach the bloodstream, so realistically your probably looking at a 5-10mg hydrocodone habit.

I'll be blunt. You may be an addict, but you have like, no tolerance at all. If you can't cold turkey off an extremely light hydrocodone habit, then maintenance drugs are completely and totally out of the question. Honestly dude your exaggerating your habit to an extreme level. Hydrocodone is weak shit and your doses are low even by therapeutic standards. Buprenorphine is a SERIOUS drug that I am CONFIDENT you cannot handle. Hydrocodone withdrawal is literally a walk in the park as far as opioid WD goes, and buprenorphine is near the top of the list of worst withdrawals. It's like 20x more potent than hydrocodone.

 

[Jktm]

Ya, don't go on a maintenance program for SNORTED hydrocodone, let alone a habit that kept you under 40mg/day...

Let alone less than 40mg snorted daily...

You get so much LESS snorting hydrocodone than taking it orally...I'm not sure exactly of the nasal BA, but the oral BA is pretty fucking high, not to mention that you're not getting all of it nasally from all the APAP you're snorting as well...

Any pill that you have to snort in 6-8 LARGE pills should not be snorted as most of it's just gonna be absorbed orally or stay stuck in the nostril...no point really...

good way to fail a drug test a few days down the road though...

 

[Float777]

What the fuck...so it's all in my fucking head...? How long will I suffer? What can I expect? And most importantly, will my life be normal again? Try not to be so negative and condescending and pessimistic. Seriously dudes. I want to quit for ONE REASON and one reason ONLY. That's my girlfriend. I've been with her for 5years and we never had problems
Still I started doing this shit. I don't want to fuck up my relationship with my future wife..what I'm asking straight up AT MOST COLD TURKEY. How long until I get enjoyment out of playing guitar,video games,stop getting moody with my fiancé,not irritable. How Lon till I'm back to normal completely? An seriously..of you don't have anything positive to say. KEEP IT TO YOUR FUCKING SELF!!!!!! I'm not saying anyone has said anything that has offended me but just saying for everyone

 

[T. Calderone]

I was addicted to oxys for a few years and went to pain docs, ad-nauseum went on for quite some time. I ended up with a good doctor who gradually weaned me down to hydros. If you want off this drug, simply stop it and yes you may feel ill for a few days. Get some immodium to help you through the gastrointestinal symptoms. I have been dopesick so many times from taking my meds more than I should and running out early.

I won't even try to judge and all's I can say is you know when you get to the point where it's out of control. You should concentrate on doing this for yourself not just your girlfriend. It's hard to say how long it will take before you get to feeling like your old self again. I went through the last run of hydro 17 months ago. I was ill for 2-3 days and didn't take enough immodium, couldn't eat but looking back, I could have taken steps to make it easier.

Hang in there because it will get better once you decide you're done with it.

 

[tricomb]

No one is being condescending or pessimistic. Just chill dude were just trying to make sure you don't make a bunch of huge mistake.

I'm not saying the addiction is all in your head, Its obvious you struggle with substance abuse. But what's in your head is the severity of your addiction, and the withdrawals really ain't gunna be a big deal since as I said earlier, the way you have been using the drugs kinda protected you from ever developing a bad addiction. If you had been taking them orally it is much more likely that you would actually feel a little withdrawals, but the truth is, your method results in a fraction of hydrocodone hitting your bloodstream so your dependency really should not be as bad as your saying it might be.

That being said, you should feel like your normal self a little bit more with every day that passes that you don't use opioids.

 

[Float777]

Honestly tricomb. I chuckled And smiled when I read your post. I appreciate the support dudes very much so..being on this site jut for the one day I've been here. I realized I'm not as bad as I thought. I seriously thought I was hardcore addicted like...bad addicted hooked for life. But I guess it's not that bad

 

[tricomb]

Nah dude, you honestly have it sooooo good compared to 95% of us. I mean, honestly I'd never thought I'd say this, but the fact that you were snorting them, well, that probably saved you a lot of withdrawals!

also another important thing, most opioid addicts, especially over time, we tend to over think WD and exaggerate their intensity. Especially after a while (or if your new and lack experience), you sorta lose focus on what it's gonna be like, so the addict inside us tells us that WD is the worst thing ever and to avoid it at all costs, but really opioid WD is not that bad. There are sooooo many worse things than opioid withdrawal.

 

[T. Calderone]

Absolutely spot on Tricomb, as many times I have anticipated opiate withdrawal it just felt worse coming on. You psych yourself into feeling sick before the physical symptoms actually emerge. Getting all worked up thinking "I'm nearly out of pills, oh damn here it comes" I'm so glad that is over for me.

But Float, you will feel so much better once you're off this hamster-wheel as I like to call it. I could kick myself with all the money wasted, time spent obsessing and getting sick from the drugs. You know what they say about hindsight.

 

[Float777]

But see I'm genuinely happy right now. You have given me the words of inspiration I was hoping existed but was sure did not. A moral boost, if you will! I was scared, about doing rehab,just to show you how out of whack and psyched out I was my thoughts before posting on this site today - dude you can't do this alone man your in too deep,your going to go thru crazy WD and be in a spiral of emotions and the woman you love is going to see why a monster you are and leave, plus, the treatment is for opiates. You'll never be fully sober so forget it dude. Just kill yourself with pills and live life. But I've learned so much in so little time and I can tell you guys have seriously already changed my life. All the people I know in real life are negative and full of hate and misery...so you can see why my attitude was where it stood. I see now..I don't like weed haven't toked in 2 years. I've only done hydrocodone! I feared this demon inside of me for so long. Now I realize he fears me. He is nothing but a small pussy ass bitch and I'm going to crush his ass thank you so much you guys!!!! Your words are very appreciated I can't even tell you the great deal of stress I have gone through for the past 6 months not even knowing half of this has been placebo!! Thinking I'm a practical gram bag a day heroin addict! I LOVE YOU GUYS 333