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Hydrocodone Dosage (First Opioid)

weird 20mg didnt get you high. try 30-40mg next time may be? or just thank god and forget about opiates? that'd be sweet too
 
Are you 100% sure that you actually got hydrocodone? I mean no disrespect. When I was younger I bought two aspirin for ten bucks because somebody told me it was Ativan, and I wanted them to be Ativan. Recently I even got duped by somebody who actually pressed fake roxy pills out of soap or something. If you trust your source then I'm sure it was the real deal, but did you look it up on pill identifier? How do you know what it was for sure?
 
Okay guys so like I said, I took 20mg at around 5:40pm last night and didn't feel anything after 40 minutes so I took another 5mg at around 6:20pm. Okay so at around 6:40pm my head started feeling weird. It was like a heavy feeling. At around 7pm the feeling was there and my hearing sounded weird. I couldn't stand or walk because I'd be way too nauseous and I'd feel like throwing up. So I'd remain laying down. I'd feel kinda tired but awake at the same time. I'd close my eyes and I'd feel rested but I wouldn't fall asleep I'd just lay with my eyes closed and open them back up. Time went by kinda fas from 6:40pm-8:30pm. I'd close my eyes for a while but I don't recall ever actually falling asleep but maybe I did a few times. I'd close them for a little whole then open them and be on my phone and then close them again. At around 9pm I fell asleep and woke up in this morning and went to school. So I definitely felt the Hydrocodone but it didn't feel good. There was no euphoria at all and no warm feeling. In fact I would get mad easily and I was in kind of a bad mood for a while. My mind did feel clear but overall I'd say I felt neutral leaning towards bad.

I have 3 theories:
1. I took too much and ruined the high.
2. The brand was a generic Norco pill or something. They were 10/325, identifier was like M367 or something. I was reading threads from a lot of people saying the M367 pills suck and are weak.
3. I just can't get high on Hydrocodone.

Sorry for the long posts. Tell me what you guys think about the situation. Also, should I try again and if so then when?
 
man i don't know about hydrocodone (never done it) but if it is indeed equipotent to oral morphine you should feel something at 20mg. at least a BIT of warmth, relaxation, wanting to lay down and chill. i don't know really if your nausea came from doing too much, because if you did do too much you'd also be very high and sedated on top of the nausea.

my last advice would be try 10mg and see if you feel something. if you don't then 20mg wasn't a high dose. then, take 30mg and see if you feel something - the worst that can happen is you catch a good buzz and puke your guts out, you can take Plasil (anti-emetic) before to fight the nausea too, or smoke some weed - but (someone correct me if i'm wrong) you won't die off of 30mg hydro with no tolerance (i'm comparing it to oral morphine).

and like it was said before, check if these pills are real.
 
Okay guys so today I took the remaining 5mg of Hydrocodone with quite a bit of Benadryl on an empty stomach at 7:30am. At around 8am I started feeling a little weird. At 8:05am I took 60mg of Vyvanse for the first time. A little after I started feeling really tired and kinda weird. At like 9:15am I wasn't really tired anymore. At around 10am is when I remember starting to feel really weird. My mind was clear and I was calm in a mellow/tired kind of way. I felt tired but awake at the same time. It's kinda hard to explain but I felt calm but awake and focused and my mind was clear but kinda tired and relaxed. I wasn't very out going but I could talk. Walking felt weird too. My hearing was kinda weird as well. No euphoria or warm feeling though. I was actually cold for a while. But I was in a good mood, not a better mood than usual though. I'm usually in a good mood around that time. The day went on and the feeling stayed for a little while. It wasn't really a good or bad feeling, just different and interesting. I felt more of the hydros effects this morning on 5mg than I did last night which is weird. Or maybe it was the feeling of both drugs together. Anyway the hydro wore off and then it went downhill. Around 1:50pm I started getting the bad effects that I usually feel on adderall. The focus went away and the jaw clenching came. By 2:30pm I had a horrible headache and my jaw hurts. I felt like I was on adderall which makes sense since it was Vyvanse. So anyway I just thought the whole situation was weird but interesting. I think the Hydro negated the bad side effects I usually get from amphetamines. Today was the first time I actually felt the clear mind and focus that amphetamines are suppose to give. Still no euphoria at all but whatever. I'm not sure if the hydros prevented the bad side effects that I normally get from adderall and when it wore off I felt them or was I experiencing a comedown? I still have the bad headache.
 
Yeah, those are Norcos. It doesn't matter if they're generic, they're just about the best form of hydrocodone available. You took too much and being opiate naive, you haven't created the pleasure pathways yet, so your body was telling you that you were poisoned. You might want to try 10mg, and you might like it, or you could just be thankful you dodged a bullet and won't end up addicted to heroin like myself, and you could smoke some weed instead.
 
20mg on your first time taking an opiate and you didn't feel anything? That's really weird. I mean like, really fucking weird. I remember when I first started taking opiates (hydrocodone was the one that took my opiate cherry :P) and 10mg would have me on cloud 9. It knocked me on my ass. I can't imagine taking 20mg my first time...but hydrocodone is weaker than most other opiates imo. But still. For an opiate-naive person, that should've given you at least a little bit of euphoria. Maybe you just naturally have a higher tolerance for stuff? Try this:


A.) Take one benadryl an hour and a half before your hydro. Or better yet, if you can get your hands on some promethazine, that'd be even better. Wash the benadryl/promethazine (choose one of the two. don't take both, please lol) down with a HUGE glass of white grapefruit juice. The grapefruit juice works by inhibiting certain enzymes in the stomach, which affects the metabolizing of the hydrocodone. You could also try taking two tums or something with antacid in it half an hour before you take the hydro. Basically, they lower the PH of the stomach which allows more of the opiate to be absorbed into the blood. Then, pop 20mgs again and see if that helps. If you're not feeling sick, maybe 30mgs? It's your call, I just don't want you to get sick again. That always blows. Try it on a somewhat empty stomach. Not completely empty, maybe just a piece of bread or something small like that.

If that doesn't work, then I'm not sure what to tell you. Maybe try a different opiate like Oxycodone. But just a little reminder; Oxycodone is much stronger than Hydrocodone. I wouldn't recommend going over 15mg on your first time with them. First time I took Oxy's I took 20mg and I was puking all night long. Not a fun time. So that's a whole other forum in itself lol.

But the ONE thing I can't express to you enough...stay safe. If you're not getting any high from 30mg of hydrocodone, more than likely they're just not for you. Don't keep taking more, hoping to catch a high. That's an overdose waiting to happen. Opiates aren't meant for everyone. And don't get mad if you're one of those people, just stick to smoking weed or whatever drug of your choice ;) Just be safe while doing so!

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me! Xoxo
 
I remember back in the day when my opioid tolerance was way lower that 30 mg would have me on cloud 9 in pure tranquility and euphoria.
 
brownbradley39 said:
I remember back in the day when my opioid tolerance was way lower that 30 mg would have me on cloud 9 in pure tranquility and euphoria.
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Right? I miss that. Now I have take at least 25mg to get a buzz. Shit's for the birds.
 
kiznard said:
Right? I miss that. Now I have take at least 25mg to get a buzz. Shit's for the birds.
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I miss the days when 30-40mg would have me in unspeakable bliss. Now 75 mg of hydros is just okay. One time I took in way over 100 mg hydrocodone and a few hours later took 45mg of oxycodone, I have NEVER been so itchy in my life! Haha but for the OP, just sloooowly increase your dose till you hit the sweet spot. But easy does it! Haha
 
Damn. My tolerance hasn't gotten that high yet....thank God. I try not to take it that often because of that very reason, but those little shits are so tempting when I'm having a bad week.... :X Hahaha, I love the itching.. don't ask me why. It feels good especially when my euphoria is through the roof...but it can be annoying as hell. But yeah, slow and steady wins the race.
 
That was my tolerance at its peak.. It has since lowered substantially, 30-40mg is what I need to feel just about anything. Preferred dose is in the 50-70s.
 
kiznard said:
20mg on your first time taking an opiate and you didn't feel anything? That's really weird. I mean like, really fucking weird. I remember when I first started taking opiates (hydrocodone was the one that took my opiate cherry :P) and 10mg would have me on cloud 9. It knocked me on my ass. I can't imagine taking 20mg my first time...but hydrocodone is weaker than most other opiates imo. But still. For an opiate-naive person, that should've given you at least a little bit of euphoria. Maybe you just naturally have a higher tolerance for stuff? Try this:


A.) Take one benadryl an hour and a half before your hydro. Or better yet, if you can get your hands on some promethazine, that'd be even better. Wash the benadryl/promethazine (choose one of the two. don't take both, please lol) down with a HUGE glass of white grapefruit juice. The grapefruit juice works by inhibiting certain enzymes in the stomach, which affects the metabolizing of the hydrocodone. You could also try taking two tums or something with antacid in it half an hour before you take the hydro. Basically, they lower the PH of the stomach which allows more of the opiate to be absorbed into the blood. Then, pop 20mgs again and see if that helps. If you're not feeling sick, maybe 30mgs? It's your call, I just don't want you to get sick again. That always blows. Try it on a somewhat empty stomach. Not completely empty, maybe just a piece of bread or something small like that.

If that doesn't work, then I'm not sure what to tell you. Maybe try a different opiate like Oxycodone. But just a little reminder; Oxycodone is much stronger than Hydrocodone. I wouldn't recommend going over 15mg on your first time with them. First time I took Oxy's I took 20mg and I was puking all night long. Not a fun time. So that's a whole other forum in itself lol.

But the ONE thing I can't express to you enough...stay safe. If you're not getting any high from 30mg of hydrocodone, more than likely they're just not for you. Don't keep taking more, hoping to catch a high. That's an overdose waiting to happen. Opiates aren't meant for everyone. And don't get mad if you're one of those people, just stick to smoking weed or whatever drug of your choice ;) Just be safe while doing so!

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me! Xoxo
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Thank you! Just to clarify, I did feel something. It wasn't as if I didn't rake anything. I just didn't feel the good effects like the euphoria or warm feeling. Or even a good mood. I was actually pretty irritable. I was nauseous if I stood up but felt fine laying down. So should I try 20mg again and after 40 minutes if I don't feel anything, should I take another 10mg? Maybe it is a good thing I didn't get high as I'm young (17) and haven't done many drugs. I want to feel the euphoric anyway lol.
 
Hey man opiates aren't for some people. I had a step grandpa take one and he got completely lost and disoriented in his own town... And my stepdad doesn't enjoy any pleasant effects either. Everyone's body chemistry is different, so if you still haven't found any real euphoria i'd forget about them... And lucky you cause opiates are some very addictive SOBs.
 
I would take the first 1 and see how you feel. The first time I tried it I puked, and that was from 4 and I thought I had somewhat a tolerance. Every persons body will react differently. If you feel fine after the first one than take the other.In my opinion, I think it's best to have food in your system before you take them.
 
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