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Hydrocodone/apap 5-500 mg tabs.

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SlickChronic

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Hey bluelight members. I've recently had an oral surgery and had been prescribed Hydrocodone/apap 5-500 mg tabs and Ibuprofen 600mg tabs. I was wondering how much mg I would have to take to get a pretty strong buzz, but nothing that would put me in much danger. I'm 16 and 145 lbs. I read somewhere that 20-30mg would be a good dose, but that means i would have to take 4-6 pills which would also be 2000-3000 mg of w/e is in that apap stuff. Is this safe?

And I also read somewhere that taking some Ibuprofen would also strengthen the effects of the hydrocodone. Is this correct? And if so how much mg should I take? Let me know the reccomended dose please, I'm looking for more than just a buzz, I want something a bit stronger so I can feel relaxed. And should I eat before or not? If not, how long should I have not eaten before taking them? Thanks in advance for answers!
 
If you have a never used hydrocodone before, i would start with about 25mg. This should be enough to let you experience some nice warm fuzzies hopefully without alot of nausea. Ibuprofen does not exactly potentiate the recreational effects of hydrocone, but synergizes with its painkilling effects. Also eating before hand may decrease chances of nausea.
 
I would start with 10-15 mg first just to be safe. And your hydrocodone tabs already contain APAP which is an anti-inflammatory just like ibuprofen to begin with. so there is no need to take your ibuprofen. If you dont have an opiate tolerance then even things like vicodin, relatively weak opiates can be strong and make you sick if your not carefull.
 
I've dosed up 10mg just once 1 hour after surgery. I didn't get any buzz or anything, but it did relieve the pain. So 25mg sounds good, I'm leaning towards 30 though. Is that a good idea? And doesn't it have stronger effects if I do it on an empty stomach? And I'll just eat once it kicks in.. Good idea, or no? And if I SHOULD eat before hand, how long before I take em'?
Thanks guys!
 
30mg is really the dose that always kicked my ass with nausea on an empty stomach. But i say sure. And yea you could always eat after it kicked in too. It really just depends on if your willing to risk a stronger onset for a possibly upset stomach.
 
I'd say 30mg is a good starting dose for an averaged sized person. You say you're looking to catch a strong buzz, so you can just take that amount and then titrate according to how you feel.

I've found that the high you get on opiates is augmented by being in actual pain. I tend to appreciate the actual painkilling effects of the drug i.e. what they are actually meant for. Especially after oral surgery like wisdom tooth extraction.

On that note, the Iburprofen isn't gonna contribute in any way to the psychological high or you're buzz. These two will definitely synergize to help you more with your pain as you might expect. And just a bit of common sense, it's really not good to exceed 4,000mg apap in a day, if I'm not mistaken you're halfway to what could realistically be a lethal dose, and even though 4,000mg isn't fatal, doesn't mean it isn't tough as hell on your liver. I will add though, if you're trying to catch a real strong buzz and you find you've reached the ceiling as far as you're apap limit goes, you can always look up one of the great threads on here about cold water extraction. Which of course is separating the opiate from the apap, it's pretty simple and might benefit you.

I will say though, use your pills sparingly. I got my wisdom teeth removed about a year ago (all impacted), and didn't really think the pain was all that bad. Until I ran out of percocet on my 2nd night post-surgery and realized the pain was indeed present. I hate to be a mom, but use them for what they're for is my advice. Mouth pain is a real bitch, and from what I hear is only second to back pain. Good luck
 
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Thanks for that great info Keif, and yes that is exactly what I have them prescribed for. i had my wisdom teeth extracted and they were all also impacted. (All 4) I have been prescribed 30 tabs, and I've only used 2 so far to ease the pain, and 2 works great to relieve the pain. So 30mg would take 6 tabs, and I'm only looking to do it for the high just once, the rest I will save for my pain. So 22 should do me good. Also 6 tabs adds up to 3000 mg apap, if that is dangerous for me, (only dosing up this much once) then I'll cold water extraction thing. I have no idea what it is, and how to do it, but I'd appreciate if you sent me a link to one of those threads.
 
25-30mg sounds okay for little tolerance. Hydrocodone isn't a very strong opiate, but it all depends on the person. There's always the chance you'll get sick from it.

Here's the problem though. 500mg apap in each, so 30mg hydrocodone is 3grams of apap in a single dose, and that's a no-no. And you shouldn't go over 4grams in a day. So if you're going that route it is recommended to CWE to get rid of the toxic apap.
 
No problem buddy, I'm glad to hear you're using those pills responsibly (lol) for you're own sake. And the odds are anyway that if you use them sparingly you'll have five or six left over once your pain has subsided and you can have a good time with them then.

Here is my personal fave as far as CWE guides go, it's real thorough. Also the search engine won't bite bra

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=272847
 
Haha yeah I did try using the search engine, I did find a guide but it was pretty confusing to me. This one though is great, thanks a lot. :) Oh I also wanted to ask you how long will this buzz last? And what do you recommend I do while on it. Lay down, watch a movie, listen to music? That's my current plans, not sure yet though.

Oh and also, about the CWE guide. Can I do all 6 tabs at once, or do I have to do a specific amount, like 1 at a time or something?
 
Shit's pretty straightforward, you'll just need to use more water for more pills, I've done many many pills at once, and in countries where Codeine is OTC they do the same or so I've heard.

You'll probably be high for around three hours (my subjective experience, not necessarily how it is for everyone) with residual effects like itching probably outlasting the euphoria and such. As for what to do while on these that's all on you. You'll find that pretty much any activity will be pretty enjoyable. If you smoke weed I would highly recommend throwing some of that into the mix. It really does enhance the experience and will help negate (hopefully) the potential for nausea that comes with opiates
 
Oh, sweet, I happen to have 2 joints right now so I guess I'll burn one, or just half of it. Alright, well thanks for all the info Keif! Bye everyone!

Hmm, did the filter method, but not sure if I quite got much of it. There was a lot of water dripping from the tissue papers, so I think I may have lost some of the hydrocodone, we'll say though. I just drank it, so I'm not sure when it will kick in.
 
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SlickChronic said:
Oh, sweet, I happen to have 2 joints right now so I guess I'll burn one, or just half of it. Alright, well thanks for all the info Keif! Bye everyone!
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I remember when i got my wisdom teeth out it hurt like hell to smoke some weed and coughing and shit trying to hold it in etc. have fun
 
holy fuck you all must be 600 lb enormous blobs to take 20-30mg of hydrocodone for your first time to get a nice buzz. I am a pretty big guy (260lbs), and I only took 10mg for my first time and I was in pure heavenly bliss for hours. Don't fucking tell someone to take 30mg for their first time, as it could possibly lead to an overdose (especially for those who are highly sensitive to opiates), or just an unpleasant experience due to nausea and vomiting from too high of a dose.

To the OP, start out with 10mg and go from there. I assure you that if you are opiate naive that 10mg will get you plenty fucking high (especially since you only weigh 145lbs).
 
OP, you were saying that you didn't feel much right after surgery, and this is partly because 10 is a low dose (i feel like 15mg is a good point). but redosing any drug (especially opiates for me) is gonna be less and less strong, and i mean if your coming off like fentanyl iv pushes in post op. then your little vicodin aren't gonna be shit for a minute...... but then they will, so be careful.
 
He just said he had taken 10mg before and didn't feel shit. 30mg will be fine - I took that much my first time when I was like 11.
 
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holy fuck you all must be 600 lb enormous blobs to take 20-30mg of hydrocodone for your first time to get a nice buzz. I am a pretty big guy (260lbs), and I only took 10mg for my first time and I was in pure heavenly bliss for hours. Don't fucking tell someone to take 30mg for their first time, as it could possibly lead to an overdose (especially for those who are highly sensitive to opiates), or just an unpleasant experience due to nausea and vomiting from too high of a dose.

To the OP, start out with 10mg and go from there. I assure you that if you are opiate naive that 10mg will get you plenty fucking high (especially since you only weigh 145lbs).
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Or maybe we have high tolerance to begin with. It's not like hydrocodone is that potent of an opiate. No one told him to take 30mg for his first dose as he already said he took 10 and got nothing out of it, so why dose 10 again? Dose 20 imo.

When i originally started on hydrocodone for pain, it took 30mg to deal with the pain, and I got no euphoria out of it. Everyone is different.
 
try 30mg imo to get a good buzz... don' worry about your liver... 3 grams of APAP is a lot to take at once... generaly its 2grams in one go, but as a one off, you'll be fine....

make sure you eat something before, it will really reduce the very small risk that the APAP will have an unpleasant effect...
 
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Or maybe we have high tolerance to begin with. It's not like hydrocodone is that potent of an opiate. No one told him to take 30mg for his first dose as he already said he took 10 and got nothing out of it, so why dose 10 again? Dose 20 imo.

When i originally started on hydrocodone for pain, it took 30mg to deal with the pain, and I got no euphoria out of it. Everyone is different.
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He is not YOU. That is exactly what I'm getting at. He did not state whether he has a tolerance or not, but I assume by his post that he is opiate naive, and I recommended that he start with a lower dose because he might react differently to it than you did. It could get him too high and feel nauseous, or it might barely affect him.

I am just trying to make sure that he is safe, that is all.
 
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