Opioids hydrocodone 7.5-325 acetamin

[timbal2848]

never taken opiods before, wondering what a safe dose of this would be. and if it would give me any high effect.

 

[KS78]

2 of them should be a safe and enough dose if it's your first time. Don mix it with benzodiazepines (Xanax, valium, klonopin ...) or alcohol.
Don't aim for a high dose. With this class of substances, you don't want to raise your dose rapidly. By doing this, you can still enjoy them without turning them into a problem.
Finally, don't use them more than two days in a row and don't use afterward within the week.
Good luck, stay safe.

 

[Keif' Richards]

Hey there OP. I wouldn't exceed 15mg Hydrocodone for the first experience, as others have said. See how it affects you. You can re-dose after maybe 1 full hour if you don't feel that you're where you would like to be. I wouldn't exceed 30mg though no matter how you feel. Do not take with any other medication that is not normal for you, especially any other depressants, namely Alcohol and/or Benzodiazepines.

 

[Quere]

And you should also remember that an addiction to hydrocodone can be just as severe as an addiction to heroin.

Lots of people trick themselves by saying 'oh at least I'm not using heroin!' Or 'at least I'm not using meth!' While continuing to use analogues of these drugs with extremely similar effects.

Oh and if in the future you do use it more and in higher dosages you NEED to look into CWE (cold water extraction) to remove the acetominophen as it is very toxic in large amounts.

 

[Iceman1216]

2 of them should be a safe and enough dose if it's your first time. Don mix it with benzodiazepines (Xanax, valium, klonopin ...) or alcohol.
Don't aim for a high dose. With this class of substances, you don't want to raise your dose rapidly. By doing this, you can still enjoy them without turning them into a problem.
Finally, don't use them more than two days in a row and don't use afterward within the week.
Good luck, stay safe.

K where where you then years ago when I needed this advise ??
I am working on my taper from 10/325 Norco . Down to 10 today ( I hope - as always)
Want to get to 5mgs for. Few days and just stop!!
So as any good advice how long till I can do them again ???!!!?

 

[Iceman1216]

I can attest to what was just said!! I was introduced to opioids at 50 during cancer treatment 10 years ago. As a sober alcoholic who did not identify as a drug addict ( smokes weed in collage, did blow to drink more, and 20 years with out any of them)
Now I sit in my shit with a hydro addiction!!
It’s RX and I do have chronic pain. But I want to stop and Fuckin withdrawals suck !!!
Whole gamut , you can find all over this forum, and the Wonderful Paws to go with it!!!
So heed the advice, be very careful of that sweet soft ,fuzzy song of the opiate!!!!!
I am cancer free 10’years, and habit not bad, have not lost everything, but the 1,000s of hours in metal time, and sickness of withdrawals!
But I wish it was not so freely given to me.
Same drug differant time! Will be a long time till 80 and 160 mg oxiy are give out like candy again.
And 10,000s of more people will most likely die!!
Enjoy be careful!!!

 

[Quere]

Yeah my addiction started with poppy seed tea, which at the time I was embarrassed about as I was 16 and know one at my high school knew what it was and thought it was something like abusing nutmeg. But as i know now it essentially is orally dosed morphine and quite a large amount at that.

When I see people saying they want to try codeine or poppy tea (pod or seeds) or hydrocodone thinking that will allow them to get a taste of opioids without getting addicted I shake my head.

Because despite the stigma associated with heroin it is in fact highly similar to all other opioids in terms of effect. The main difference is in potency which doesn't mean heroin is X times stronger or get you X times more high or X times more risk, it means you take a much lower dosage to get the same effects as you would with a weaker opioid

Obviously there are some idiosyncrasies around heroin use that can make it somewhat more dangerous such as propensity towards injection use (due to lower oral bioavailability) and subjectively more euphoria etc but it is still largely the same

 

[Iceman1216]

Thank you!! I am working very hard in my home town to “Stop the Stigma””
Alcohol is a drug !!!
Addiction is a disease, not a character defect!!
I am down to 5 mgs of hydro to day
Lope and gabipenrin have helped, but sucks to sit the beach and feel like shit all day!
So OP be very careful, as I said above I met opiates and had my life saved, but I wish it could of been differant !!

 

[Quere]

Hey iceman

K where where you then years ago when I needed this advise ??
I am working on my taper from 10/325 Norco . Down to 10 today ( I hope - as always)
Want to get to 5mgs for. Few days and just stop!!
So as any good advice how long till I can do them again ???!!!?

Hey iceman that's awesome your taper is going well, I think tapering down to 5 mg is an excellent idea and should make the WD's much more bearable (although my WD's have never been something I would ever describe as bearable! ?).

Just to clarify, are you asking how long you will need to be clean before taking opioids will no longer 'reset' (for lack of a better word) your opioid withdrawals?

I would say you would want to wait AT LEAST 2 weeks or until you feel completely back to your 'normal'. But I would recommend being extremely careful because once you've been physically dependent once (or more times), the time needed to re-acquire a physical dependency vastly reduces (at least IME/research/people I know).

First time dependencies often take months to form but after the first one it can take a week or less and then your back to having to deal with WDs!

 

[Quere]

Oh and also Loperimide is something to watch out for as it can potentially lengthen your withdrawals (in the same way taking hydro when your still in WDs would do so) or in some cases people have ended up dependent on large doses of lope itself (which is very bad for you as it can cause cardiac issues).

But if you're using it for symptomatic relief at or close to the suggested dosage it shouldn't be too problematic

 

[Iceman1216]

thank you, I am hoping that the opiate train stays in the station!! A fun ride but too high of a price for me to be willing to pay now!!
I have read the Lope threads and can not believe how people can get to those High Doses?? I am taking 1/2 the dose in the am, right after my stomach tells and shows me that it is not happy

 

[Quere]

Ah yeah well people take those crazy doses because it doesn't normally get absorbed into the brain (well actually as I understand it, it does but then is transported out before it's able to take effect) but by flooding your system with 100, 200 mg etc an appreciable amount can get into your brain/CNS and cause active opioid effects. In regular doses it only effects the opioid receptors in your gastrointestinal system (providing relief from the yucky GI effects of withdrawal) and perhaps elsewhere in the body but not in the brain/CNS.

But yes it is crazy to do those mega doses and has killed quite a few people so I'm glad to hear you aren't doing that.

 

[Iceman1216]

I believe in reading the dose on my meds. My opiate problem started with "Take one or two every six hours as Needed" Fuck was that dad advice back in the day

 

[Quere]

When I was younger (and stupider) I used to shoplift the whole display tray of loperamide packets at the supermarket and take them all at once in order to keep myself out of WDs when i couldn't afford/find a dose of opioids. But it certainly isn't healthy and I'm glad i didn't hurt myself

 

[Quere]

I believe in reading the dose on my meds. My opiate problem started with "Take one or two every six hours as Needed" Fuck was that dad advice back in the day

Haha I had the same thing with benzos prescribed for anxiety, at first I would abuse and sell them and run out in 2 weeks or less but the real trouble came when I started actually following the psych''s advice to take 1-3 0.5 mg clonazepam as needed per day

Lol

 

[KS78]

K where where you then years ago when I needed this advise ??
I am working on my taper from 10/325 Norco . Down to 10 today ( I hope - as always)
Want to get to 5mgs for. Few days and just stop!!
So as any good advice how long till I can do them again ???!!!?

Good luck, Iceman1216. Unfortunetely, once we get a taste of opiates, willingly or not, most of us have to go through the same mess. I'm sure you will solve this problem.
I was addicted quite heavily to intravenaus heroin & cocaine for many years. Had to go through many cold turkeys, methadone ... Had been clean from h & coke since 2010. But I got cocky about a month ago when I came across some high quality opium which is much harder to get than heroin here (Istanbul); it's like a novelty, nostalgic substance which many people don't even think about. I bought some and starting ingesting a pea size which made like f.cking incredible. It feels like meating your lpng lost confidant (I'm not sure if I spelled it correct. All my depression and the feeling of having to suffer through life not for myself but the people who care about me just dissappeared.
So once again I'm dependent on an opiate; hasn't become an addiction yet. In comparison to my prior addiction, it's pretty much nothing. I'm not copping on the street, spending all my money and time on it and I'm not shooting it every hour but it's still a dependency. I know that I have to break the cycle again, yet I don't think that I want to live without it.
I'm thinking of tapering and stopping without stopping going to work or being around family which will not be easy.
Finally, I really can't say anything about time because I got myself dependent after 9 years or so on purpose. I don't think that there's a timeframe regarding this issue. The only thing that I know is that the hard part is forgetting the relief and feeling one gets from using opiates (or any other addictive substance). Once you can achive this, the rest is more managable.
Good luck to all of us.