Huggy pill vs Dancing pill

[wikings]

Ok I take this one pill and I am on my ass. Hugging and talking.
Another time I take this pill and I am dancing like a wild man.
Not too strange, apart from the fact that it was the same brand pill from the same batch on the same night.
I am confused, it doesn't really make sense.
Can anyone offer some info? How can the same pill do 2 completely different things?

 

[Tarsarlan]

Your own emotions play a large part in the way a pill, any pill, will affect you. If you're in a good mood, feeling energised and ready to party, you're more likely to feel like dancing. If you're feeling relaxed, still ready for a good night, but not really amped up, then you're more likely to sit and chat.
And even if you feel exactly the same before going out on the two occasions, there are many other things that can happen to you throughout the night that will change your mood.
I find that I can do either on a pill, that is either dance my butt off or sit and chat. It really depends on the atmosphere, on the people around me and the music... For me the pill no longer makes me dance or just sit on my ass. The strength of the pill can affect my willingness to get up and dance (white mitsi = sitting on my ass all night soaking up the euphoria

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A while back I had a batch of gold cK's (mmmm). Took one one night, danced for about 2 hrs, then spent the rest of the night on my butt (think it was at Teriyaki). Then at Kryal Castle I had another, didn't dance all that much, just went off and chatted for ages, then sat near the fire cos I was freezing. Can't remember the next couple of times, but I'd say they would have been different too...
Experience, tolerance, environment, and simply the different ways the drug affects different people all have a part in determining how you'll feel and what you'll feel like doing.
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[Cowboy Mac]

agree with what was said above, but i find its what you turn the pill into. you can be smacked out sitting on the ground loving everything, or you can be dancing and charging your arse off, depends how you control it, or if you can control it depending on your experience and the strength of the pill. With that in mind tho you can also have an off nite where the drug 0wnz j00 and you cant do much about it, im sure im not the only one who has off nites occasionally

[This message has been edited by Cowboy Mac (edited 05 October 2000).]

 

[A]

im sure JB will jump in and refer u to a thread on
MDMA, MDEA and MDA
i just cant find it..too lazy.
all will be revealed.
A.

 

[Its Chaos]

Hey A. is this d link?
http://www.bluelight.ru/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000278.html?reload=21

 

[BigTrancer]

Moreover, I think that a large part of this comes back to 'set and setting'. If you have a few quiet weekends in a row and are in good health prior to taking a particular pill, you'll give yourself the best chance to get the most from it. If you're on the end of a 5 day bender, you may find the same pill just keeps you awake a bit longer or has limited duration or intensity. It just depends on your current state of health/mind.
BigTrancer

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I don't want to sound paranoid, but just consider how much of what you're writing could help send you to Jail.

 

[Acid_Reign]

Maybe it was cause you had the in the same night.
You have one and your sitting and hugging etc
and most of your serotonin is depleted. Then you have the second one and it's more speedy cause you've got less serotonin and more "chemical that makes speedy". I'm not that eductated on this but i think what I'm saying in seems reasonable.

 

[johnboy]

A: nope... wrong... i would have just made the points on "set and setting" that tarsalan and BT have made already.
i have always felt that these factors play a much larger part than actual chemical differences. do a search on "set and setting" and you'll see.
try and not put words in my mouth ok?

 

[Never Mind]

Here's how it all wokrs for me.
Dome one night, I was totally off my face, leaning up against a wall, in bodily exctasy.
And I sure as hell couldn't dance. My mates were but I was more like a jelly blob. But then afterwards, when the head effects of the pills wore off, I had all this energy and I had to rock it out at Commercial lounge.
It seems to happen to me most times. If I have a chargey pill, then I dance all night and day, but if I have a 'smackey' pill, I am 'smacked' out for a few hours, then I get all the energy and I can dance.
Weird, but I like it.
Depends again on yourself.
Anyway, just my $0.02 + $0.002 GST
BASS OUT
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[A]

alas
JB i am sorry for putting words in ur mouth.
totally out of character and it wasnt called for.
my sincerest apologies.
and i apologise to the board as well.
sorry.

A:>

 

[gumby]

I havn't had that much experience with pills but from what I have had and what I've read on bluelight I reckon acid reigns explanation seems the best. Once your seretonin gets lower or empty your seretonin receptors start picking up dopamine instead, which causes you to become less wobly and lovey etc and more sped up etc. sorry this is pretty much waffle, but this does seem reasonable as all supposed good pills that ive had (like gold cks and white euros in december99) but me on my ass in loved up bliss for 2 hours before making be reved up and bouncy and happy. ..sorry about the waffle again. its late.did any of this make sense ? do a search for more concise info i guess

lubadeedoobadeeyoobadeeaallbadeelaterbee.

 

[*chaoscat*]

Yes AR sounds about right... you cannot possibly have the same pill within 2 weeks, let alone one night, and expect the second to be as strong as the first. The first was strong and knocked you out, the second only had half as much effect (for example), so you could still dance...
seems obvious to me. That's why it's better to not have a whole handful in one night, but spread it out over a few separate times if you want to get the most out of it.

 

[fat tony]

bass J... that's xactly what happens to me as well. i have always put it down to good clean MDMA.. no other active ingredients. it only happens off the best gear and on those nights i always seem to have the smoothest comedowns.
i'll be sat on my ass within 20 mins of it hitting me.. and i'll go through all the usual bullshit.. ppl coming up going "damn you're smacking out mate", and i'll b like "no.. actually i'm in heaven"

and then maybe 2-3 hours later, sometimes before, sometimes after my peak, the music will get deeper and deeper inside of me until i can't resist and i'll spring up, scaring the shit outta the ppl around me and dance fiercely till it ends. and often well into the next day as well.... the comedown will be almost non-existant.
and i'll smile at all the ppl who thought i'd got 'smacky pills', and grin at their cracked out, speed comedown faces and give them a barley sugar and a ciggy. bcoz i'm left on top of the world and they are totally 8up.
but sorry, back on topic. i find that whatever i'm doin at the moment my pill hits me i keep doin it. like if i'm dancing i keep dancing and wouldn't dream of sitting down. but if i'm relaxing on my ass and it kicks in there's no chance of me getting up. that's assuming we're talkin MDMA pills but.
neways, hope it was a good nite, i always enjoy any strange twists like this.
tony

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[Nickstar]

Fat Tony - I have the same tendancy to continue doing what ever I'm doing when the pill hits. Seems if im sitting down when it hits you sorta get glued to the ground and cant get up

and vice versa if your dancing.

 

[wikings]

Thanks for all the info

Don't get me wrong, I was having the best time laxing out and talking.
It was at GateCrasher and my second pill came on at the same time as, 'double 0 flemming'.
It was the best night, got nice talking + dancing my ass off.
I think next time I will try and 'dance in' my pill. My mistake was waiting for it to hit, and not just enjoying the music and dancing.
Next party I am dropping when I walk in the door, then won't stop dancing from then!

 

[BigTrancer]

Good idea. Sometimes it's best to just drop and then forget you've even had anything. Run around and meet people and have fun partying like normal then before you know it, you're flying.

 

[fataliss]

A similar thing has happened to me
I was wondering if anyone could tell me if this is possible...
I had 0.5 at an ian pooley gig and I went off on the dance floor
the other 0.5 at those guys who do 'I see you baby' a week later
i figured that it may have been b/c the pill was ot mixed evenly ie different proportions of the mixture in each 0.5, it was just a guess, is it possible?