How would 4-HO-MET affect 6-APB?

[frontbluntt]

So I'm going to be at a show where I want to trip for the first half of it and roll the latter half.
If I take 4-HO-MET and come down from that trip and then take some 6-APB, will 6-APB's trippy effects be enhanced by the fact that I am coming off a trip? Or would they be diminished?
My goal is for the 6-APB to be just as or less trippy then it usually is, I don't want the trippyness of the two drugs to compound, I'd rather trip and then roll as two separate things.
Thanks for any input

 

[Shifty38]

Just a personal opinion:

I'd do it in reverse. Roll then trip. In that way, you can just take 6. Start off with a good dose. Enjoy the roll and then top-up and have some weed. Alternatively, avoid the top-up and have some MXE after the peak. That'll get you tripping. Only reason I offer this suggestion is that I've done it several times and, if careful with the MXE, it can be a lot of fun.

Don't know a great deal about 4-HO-MET but I'm sure you'll get some good advice. Post how you get on

 

[any major dude]

I took a cocktail of 5 & 6 apb (total ~115mg) & 4-aco-dmt/ho-met & it was a nice experience, not terribly different from the ol' hippie flip. I took the trypts about an hour after the apbs.

How long a show is this going to be? Given metocin 's kinda long duration & 6apb's long come up I doubt you'd be able to fully separate the two unless its like a 12hr rave or something. Dosage timing is a little more of an art than a science given all the variables that go into such things. And everyone's going to react a little differently. I doubt you'll be able to get extremely accurate advice regarding the question in the OP as there's a lot of esoteric pharmacology involved. My best guess would be to take the 6apb maybe 5ish hours into the metocin trip. Though frankly the two are a nice combo even with stacked peaks.

 

[frontbluntt]

I took a cocktail of 5 & 6 apb (total ~115mg) & 4-aco-dmt/ho-met & it was a nice experience, not terribly different from the ol' hippie flip. I took the trypts about an hour after the apbs.

How long a show is this going to be? Given metocin 's kinda long duration & 6apb's long come up I doubt you'd be able to fully separate the two unless its like a 12hr rave or something. Dosage timing is a little more of an art than a science given all the variables that go into such things. And everyone's going to react a little differently. I doubt you'll be able to get extremely accurate advice regarding the question in the OP as there's a lot of esoteric pharmacology involved. My best guess would be to take the 6apb maybe 5ish hours into the metocin trip. Though frankly the two are a nice combo even with stacked peaks.

Actually it's exactly twelve hours lol

 

[Jesusgreen]

I can't comment for 4-HO-MET specifically but having combined 6-APB + 4-AcO-DMT at a rave I can say that was an absolutely wonderful combination, and I wouldn't have really wanted to do one after the other. However, in my case, I had amphetamine, weed, and alcohol to keep the buzz going throughout the night so I didn't crash before the rave ended.

Personally I'd start off with a dose of 4-HO-MET like you said, but then before you come down I'd redose a *small* dose of 4-HO-MET along with the 6-APB. I assume 4-HO-MET would potentiate the euphoria and overall experience of the 6-APB like 4-AcO-DMT did, but also - for me the duration of the peak was greatly increased too, so this way you could keep on going right until the end before you come down.

When you refer to not wanting more trippyness do you mean visuals etc or the headspace? Because normally for me 4-AcO-DMT has extreme mindfuck, anxiety, paranoia etc, but in the combination I felt extremely clearheaded as I normally do on 6-APB, just with incredibly beautiful visuals, and my euphoria felt more "spiritual" like tryptamine euphoria.

If you do want to eliminate the trippy element of 6-APB entirely then I think you'd need some existing tolerance to psychedelics prior to the night. Maybe trip the night before, then enjoy a weakened 4-HO-MET trip at the start of the night, and by the time you dose your 6-APB you'll be pretty much immune to the psychedelic effects unless you dose high.

 

[Solipsis]

I imagine it would be a bit hippyflip like, watch out with "rolling" first because any comedown phase could be especially confusing if you are still tripping hard. I personally don't think 4-HO-MET is that long a trip though, unless I do a serious redose.

As for the original question, I think there is a bigger chance that the second part i.e. the roll will be enhanced, but the general feeling of 'wow, I'm falling into a severely altered state of consciousness' may be smaller since you start off from a 'launch platform'. Also, the stimulant / clear-headed side of the 6-APB won't be affected by that and will only feel enhanced as in 'in a mix/combo'. Floaty psych feelings might meld together but it should be a good resultant. Granted I haven't had this combination it sounds like it could have fine potential. Take it easy with the dosages since this is not such a well-known combination as basic mushrooms and ecstasy.
Have fun, mind drinking enough water and not getting too hot and stuff like that.

Be prepared for the psychedelia of the drugs to add up, even if you do not intend that to happen. You can't always control things like that. While 4-HO-MET feels way less heavy than other similar tryptamines it still has serious potential (I've experienced that on exceedingly high doses so you should be okay), at the same time... being at an uncontrollable venue away from home may make it all more paranoid and weird and you cannot just push the combo for the rolling feeling to be isolated.

Take lower doses if you do not think that is acceptable and decide how to proceed at the time you are doing it, and don't proceed too fast on a pre-confirmed schedule.

Even if others have had particular experiences with this combination that would fit your preferences, don't be too sure that it will apply to you. There are just too many factors involved.

 

[Redbong]

I did 150mg 6apb followed by 25mg 4-ho-met about 3 hours later at a shpongle show. All I can say is amazing. Very close to a hippy flip. The only problem was the residual stimulation. I wasn't able to sleep til 4 am the next morning, I started at 8:30 pm. It was most definitely worth the lost sleep. They have wonderful synergy.

As for a 6apb chaser, I had taken 28mg 2c-e, and on the come down did 175mg 6apb. It was the perfect ending to a very introspective night.

As always, happy travels!!