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How we rolled in the 90s when the pills were super strong

yanker said:
U say a good dose of mdma would do that? can u recommend something better than speakers and defqons then? She's not the first person I've heard say that either.
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Who cares about specific pills? 200mg of MDMA is 200mg of MDMA.
 
yanker said:
U say a good dose of mdma would do that? can u recommend something better than speakers and defqons then? She's not the first person I've heard say that either.
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Yeah lol, get the Triforces.


The Defqons/Speakers/Triforces are suspected to have different ratios of the isomers, which would cause different effects... and since racemix (equal amounts of isomers) is considered the most "magical", it's very possible the Defqons aren't as loved up as the old MDMA... or the stuff going around now lol
 
Folley said:
Logic really says that the quality of MDMA would only go up... as the chemists that make it are able to refine their techniques, the purity of their product should increase, making a better product
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Can u explain this with the current US situation then? One would think being Americans wed have the best shit in the world based on ur theory. I'd think that there would be many more reasons why ur theory would work the other way actually. Stiffer penalties harder to obtain the necessary ingredients just to name a few.
 
George I have not had the pleasure. Dezz calm down I will stop rolling when bears stop shitting in the woods. Just kidding. Everyone calm down. There was a time when I had not rolled for numerous years. I do not abuse MDMA so my Brain is not permanently fried it is just the fact that maybe the chemists back in the day maybe sold their shop when they retired to a newbie and didn't include the magical recipe book what ever the case maybe but they def added and extra special touch of something else. Don't get me wrong todays pills do the job, they are just runner up to as we would like to say, the good old days
 
Americans are cheap lol, they'd rather sell pipes and make more money.


I'd still think Holland has the best stuff lol, because they have the best chemists, equipment, access to precursors and less stiff penalties if they get caught lol...



I was talking about the same chemist, like how a weed grower can make his crop better and better every time by tweaking/improving the process




^ Everybody wants the good old days dude lmao... I would love to go back to when I was 6, that doesn't mean that being 6 is better
 
Folley. Quick question. If you don't mind me asking your age? Because if you didn't roll in the 90s then all you can do is base your facts from google or personal experience ( present time ) just curious
 
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Younger than anyone else on this board, that's for sure. You're right though, I have no personal experience with the pills back then... but when science and subjective reports have conflicting views, I have to side with science...

I really have been looking for something that could explain how ALL the MDMA then is different from ALL the MDMA now... but everything I've seen so far points to the opposite..


I'm 16
 
16?! How fucking old were you when you started rolling? That's terrible man. I didn't take my first pill till I was 24. Seems like you're sorted out now though...but Jesus that's young to be messing with your brain chemistry. And you say 300 pills? That's got to have had some effect on your development....
 
kimmy7878 said:
Folley. Quick question. If you don't mind me asking your age? Because if you didn't roll in the 90s then all you can do is base your facts from google or personal experience ( present time ) just curious
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basing your facts from personal experience is exactly what you are doing as well. That is a logical fallacy.

of course, BL wouldn't be half as fun without fallacies! :)
 
^ lol nice one.

BobJillespie said:
That's got to have had some effect on your development....
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Oh I'm sure of it... and nah, it's more like 200 or so. :p 163 actually (that I remember, it's in another thread), with like 125 of them being taken in a 6 or so month period. Probably like half of those weren't even MDMA but meth, but I loved to combine them with the MDMA pills, or just eat them by themselves even though I knew they were meth.



I don't know, I know I've done a ton of damage but I've recovered vastly and devoted myself to not let it happen to other people who have a fighting chance.. I just hope the damage doesn't follow me for the rest of my life.
 
Folley said:
^ Dude I used to get that SO bad like 3 years ago, I would fucking rub dirty ass concrete because it felt so gooooood lol...


Since I started abusing it I haven't really gotten it as much though... I still rub everything and wrap myself up in fleeces and shit lmao, but it doesn't have that same otherwordly soft feel it had before.... it's still soft as clouds though haha


More recently I've been more interested in massage chairs lol... that's like a full body orgasm.
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ok.. now if some people out there are still getting that feeling then i am willing to concede that it may be possible that us veteran rollers might just have less overall serotonin function... or the other possibility is that the doses were just wayy higher and we all need to drop more pills at once...
 
It doesn't matter how old folley is he knows more shit than 90% of us combined! ThT being said do u really think pills back in the day were all pushing 200mg? I mean back then all I hear are people saying they needed one pill for the night. I only started rolling 3 yrs ago and I've only rolled maybe 16-18 times. Even today a single defqon or speaker or some of the purist Molly in the world doesn't do the trick for me. Its more of a tease than anything else. Y is it so hard to believe maybe back in the day it could've been synthized better?

Reading the other thread that was started I have a suggestion. Maybe the reason people think rolls back in the 90s were stronger was because maybe the majority of them back then had mda in em. As far as I know mda was much more abundant back then readily available and were probably the norm to buy a pill that contained a healthy dose of mdma with mda. That would make sense as to why people consistently say they rolled harder back in the 90s. I don't think ecstasy data was around then so getting factual answers on this theory may be impossible but that's my thoughts.
 
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I was asking your age just to try to find out what your opinion was based on was it either personal experience or facts. You are entitled to your opinion as I am but one can't say I can't be wrong to have my opinion when one was just being born into this world . It would be like me talking about how hard the Jews had it in concentration camp when I never lived through it. All I'm saying is and I will stick to my story that some how and some way the pills were very much indeed stronger 16 years ago. Idk if the chemists had fairy dust but what ever they had it was glorious . Sincerely, original gangster
 
There fairy dust was mda I bet.

I know from personal experience the closest feeling to my first magical experience came on new years eve when I mixed mda/mdma. It was so fucking intense i t was getting stronger 3 hrs in to my roll. I had never had such an intense roll in my life besides the first time. But even my first time wasn't as intense just different.
 
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I'll shoot that one down given what I know of MDA now vs what things were like then. There is zero loved up empathy for me with MDA where MDMA then had me walking the path of Ghandi I loved everyone around me so much it was overwhelming. Plus i don't get the sex drive from MDA like MDMA, even when i mix them.

MDA gives me personal euphoria that borders on cocky arrogance while I'm on it, but no empathy. Like "Uhhh bitch! Fuck you I'm on MDA getting raped right now! Enjoy your pipes!" Like my sexy ass 100lb lady friend said to some chick that said something about my lady friend doesn't know what she's talking about E when she answered about what she took and explaining MDA to her at the event the other weekend.

Exact quote of the arrogance factor that MDA gave her, where she would never say something like that with MDMA. At least not out loud lol. So, no. The love isn't there.
 
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Combo pills my friend. A healthy dose of each. Don't forget if I remember correctly seeing somewhere on tv mda was just as common if not more in the club scene. I think after mdma became illegal they started pushing mda until that became illegal. But actually I think that was in the 80s. But u get a healthy dose of the 2 and u get everything u described.
 
If you check ecstasydata or w/e, about half the pills in the 90's were mdma + mdea, or mdma+ amph, i only saw a couple of just pure mdma if my memory serves me correctly, most pills here in europe are usually just pure mdma nothing else, maybe thats whats missing is the other ingredients.
 
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