if you give the same person a dose of mdma hcl from the same batch on two different occasions, they can have qualitatively and quantitatively different experiences.
To a point but if you take pill reports for example some pills generate better reports than others and they are relatively consistent reports. For each user the feelings seem to follow a pattern.
In my eyes a quality pill is a quality pill. Whilst the experience might not be exactly the same from my own personal experience quality pills do produce repeat feelings.
so you give the same person a dose of mdma hcl then, another time, a different mdma salt and they have a different experience, you've learned absolutely nothing because they can have a different experience when taking the same salt.
There is quite a difference between a feeling and an experience.
If I were given two different pills I could clearly define the difference between the pills without being confused by the individual experiences.
how would you explain it if, in your experiment, they ingest two different salts and report the same experience?
Again I would choose the word feeling as opposed to experience but if the onset was the same, the come up felt the same, levels of hallucination 0-10 were the same, come down the same, aftermath the same then conclusion would be that particular salt has zero effect.
Clearly not every come up is the same etc etc but when taking different types of pills I can certainly feel a noticable difference. Taking the same type of pills there is certainly a repeat feeling one gets.
one problem with this entire discussion is, in my opinion, that you have already come to a conclusion and you're trying to fit the evidence to it.
Its not the entire discussion by any means its a small element of it but yes I do beleive the salt type of MDMA has an effect on the perceived high. In my opinion the Mint is an example of this in reality.
we're not working on our phds so the bar is set in a different place but your approach is extremely unscientific, for want of a better term.
Unfortunately not having a lab at my fingertips and que of volunteers then a scientific approach is impossible. However, like with many of the other discussions on Bluelight gatherings of information, constant discussion and endless debates often reap rewards.
Re-basifying it is nothing, but it would take a lot of care, glassware, & materials to actually get to crystals of another salt. And not every salt makes nice white crystals, they each have their own properties. Some salts might not be too bad, while others might not form at all (regardless of skill & care). So there's really no clear way I can answer that for sure
Thanks for this update.
Looking at some of the gassing setups its always looked relatively simple but I guess actually gathering all the solvents etc together is often harder than it looks.
Clearly we wont say anything about solvents and how too etc.
but..
This pic springs to mind where by a Narc is gassing some Base using a Garden Pressure Sprayer. Without going into any synth detail it looks relatively simple.
