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How toxic is Mephedrone?

Anyone care to list the side-effects of a2 up regulation, and the acute/chronic health risks that would come with it? Our brain's are constantly doing a balance act and fixing these harms as my slow but sure recovery from HPPD and Depersonalization from LSD has taught me, be patient and it will fix itself. But any reason why this could be a permanent switch? I'm sure it couldn't be, only maybe at times of stress/danger though, adrenergic 'effects' would be stronger than they ideally should be for, you know, the fight or flight style survival needs...? I've noticed during these exams, whilst studying my ass off, and as the exam approaches a type of adrenaline feeling anxiety that I've never really experienced before. Cigarettes also seem to not help, if I'm already stressed or anxious, they'll throw me into a real fit for about 5-10 minutes and I'll have to drink water. Does this sounds like possible a2 up regulation (I think it does).
 
please keep on topic.
nobody gives a shit how much it cost or how much money you were or were not making
start another thread somewhere else if you like

the thread title is how toxic is mephedrone.
 
i did not realize one of the only confirmed deaths was the result of hyponatremia and hypokalemia, although there are missing details, the fact that the user was female and died of hyponatremia suggests that mephedrone releases vasopressin in a similar fashion to MDMA. users (esp. females) should make sure not to overhydrate and to consume liquids with electrolites.
 
^Noone doubts that it's relatively forgiving in terms of acute effects, but what about chronic / long term effects from such abuse? We just don't know..
 
well hopefully the whole lot will be metabolized harmlessly.

Has there ever been a recreational drug discovered to hold serious profound health problems for the non habitual more epic binge user?

Mephe is just so damn addictive, more than coke imo- do they design it that way?
 
gubbs123 said:
How were you dealing it illegally when it wasn't made illegal in the UK until the day after you posted this? Also, a dealer should never touch his own stuff...everyone knows that! Too dangerous!
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u have to be a ltd company to sell it i was doing it on the street i could of got max 5 years but now its max 17
 
doombadger said:
Has there ever been a recreational drug discovered to hold serious profound health problems for the non habitual more epic binge user?
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MPTP immediately comes to mind.

I bet that serious mephedrone abuse permanently alters brain function, and may cause permanent, organic brain damage, not just the reversible decrease in SERT density seen with MDMA.

Throw in some of the serious and potentially life-threatening acute cardiovascular reactions that have been reported, and it looks like heavy mephedrone use will probably end up shortening lifespan, measured as either absolute number of years lived or the number of years lived in good physical and mental health, or both.
 
I bet that serious mephedrone abuse permanently alters brain function, and may cause permanent, organic brain damage, not just the reversible decrease in SERT density seen with MDMA.
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Why?

ebola
 
I think one has less to worry about mephs effects on the body then on the mind.

friend of mine did it over a year regulary (3g/week) and then went insane (he got so paranoid he thought he had to kill himself) and overdosed one night (6g swallowed at once. ).
in hospital they coudn't find any physical abnormalitys except for an increased heartrate but he was passed out for 48 hours.
2 weeks later he still wasn't able to sleep without medical aid and now , after three months, he's still a diffrent person then he used to be. Scared of everything and everybody, lost his sense of humour, no real interests, sleeping and eating most of the time etc pp..
They checked all his bodyfunctions when he went to the doctors, including long term ekg etc.. and physically he's absolutly fine but he might need a psychotherapist for the rest of his life.

With MDPV it's the same but worse.
 
Meph seems so hit or miss on all fronts. I didn't abuse it nearly as bad as your friend but also have found negative mental side effects minimal, only a day or two later do I feel more 'down', by the third day I'm back to normal and happy. The physical side effects concern me more, though even these pale in comparison to physical side effects some have experienced after one use.
 
My take on the meph debate, threads like this are always going to have a higher % of problems to users with no problems as the first time they suffer some side effect they are going to google it and find these threads as opposed to the thousands that do it every weekend with no symptoms who never look up these threads. I know this is a compund with unknown risks but i don't think there as bad as some threads make out, who knows for sure though?

Me, i have still not took that risk, been sitting on a small amount which i got before the ban and im 50/50 whether ill try it or flush it, maybe wait a but longer and see what else comes out im in no rush the way im feeling at the minute i could sit on it for years...

The crazy thing is i would have never bought it had it not been for it's impending ban and the fear that i may miss out on something great ;)
 
too much

I have been on a 1 to 2 gram a day habit for about three months now. Always insufflating. I recently have tried to quit But it has been very hard to. Every night when i try to sleep i get the most insane nightmares it feels like real life. Some nights my nightmares make me think that i am in the act of beating my wife and i wake up to her sleeping soundly beside me it is very scary. My nose is all fucked up and my wife keeps telling me to go see her allergist... LOL If she only knew. I have been off of it since Sunday but really want to do it again. Some nights I go on 4 gram binges. Its really bad. Now I don't even really get a rush. Its just like a coke stimulated feeling but without the empathy... what to do?
 
Meph isn't really going to turn out that much differently than coke. People can take this stuff any time and function, get totally addicted, it's a white power that you snort, and it makes you feel good for about 30 minutes - sounds pretty similar to me.
 
True... I can work on it and after it.... its just the lack of sleep that gets you seeing shit and psychooo....
 
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