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How toxic is Mephedrone?
letoureiffel?
Greenlighter
Sometimes vendors have the least first hand experience, sometimes the most. this has to be one of the most pop highs available from a head shop. I think the only tests (excluding any historical records, if in existence) people did for Khat was basically the human guineapig. it was fun till i fell off the wheel...
letoureiffel?
Greenlighter
yeah what an ignorant gooner. he obviously just sits in drinking yorkshire tea with his slippers on looking out the window at either a field or some sort of factory, while his wife potters about making sure his pie and gravy's on the table by 5.30 on the dot... and then on saturday he'll have his ba'on buttie and feel dead indulgent. 
8) oh yeah with his copy of the star open at page 3.
The readers of that article mentioned chewable pure khat. i would imagine this would be equally harmful to people that already suffer adverse effects, and it notes that its use is common among certain cultures. It might be a bit like chewing tabacco, i.e. mildly stimulating, though quite irritating in the mouth, or like paan, which when tried in its native habitat (i.e. India) is only edible by the locals due to the pollution that they are accustomed to.
really want to know what the MKat tests discover. Hopefully it won't just be in a chemical jargon and therefore not really groundbreaking.
letoureiffel?
Greenlighter
This may be a long shot... but i wonder if it is possible that the reason some people have had adverse and fatal effects was actually because they suffered from Guillain Barre Syndrome?
http://www.nowpublic.com/health/guillain-barre-syndrome-panic-factor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain–Barré_syndrome
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Idiot 1st class
I don't need to mug old ladies for my kicks (but I do it anyway) 
Just reading between the lines that he's a hideous beer monster
Idiot 1st class
I don't need to mug old ladies for my kicks (but I do it anyway)
Just reading between the lines that he's a hideous beer monster
...who beats his wife.
letoureiffel?
Greenlighter
Also not to be a prang-face but i know peeps who have had problems in their mouth - on their tongues and gums feeling sore;
be careful phet use does not lead to gingivitis i.e. worst case scenario your gums become loose from your teeth.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/amphetamines/amphetamines_health.shtml
i'm allowed to talk of this as this is a toxicity thread/ bonjela all the way. sources not verified but found by searches.
letoureiffel?
Greenlighter
though it's probably more likely i'd cause damage by going to bed without brushing my teeth. oo pass the bacon buttie dipped in common sense please.
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
My first encounter with obviously mephedrone intoxicated people this weekend. One lad had a Tourette's like tic th\t kept jerking his whole head round while I was talking/listening (mostly listening) to him. Another had this weird mouth thing going on - both more exaggereated than anything I saw with MDMA
pofacedhoe
Bluelight Crew
yeah the gurning is brutal- and the lip licking is way more like amphetamine+citalopram combo
I agree, mephedrone completely fucks you up, it gave me eye whigles but my eyes were literally smashing from one side to the other mdma didnt ever come close to that.
I'm betting this is one of the reasons why its so damn popular, ppl want to get fucked up, and mephedrone does a very good job at that.
InternetMuse
Bluelighter
You guys must be taking it in quite large doses then...maybe I've just not hit that threshold. But I've never had excessive gurning, eye wiggles, lip licking, tongue chewing or anything else that people say you are definitely going to do whilst on mephedrone.
Granted, I've never taken more than 1g in a 24hr period and each dose (insufflated) is about 80 - 100mg but never much more (often less).
Just wondering what doses you are taking to get such pronounced side-effects?
Just 2 lines, cant say the exact dose, but in total a gram was used and we were with 3 persons. (probably 150mg or something, snorted)
Mephedrone is just an incredible intense drug, its a shame its not that healthy
. I've only used it twice.
FutureFlash
Greenlighter
When I just started I was getting a nice high of 100mg or so insufflated. I think the first time I got serious eye wiggles was after a .5 bomb.
Absolutely. Meph can fuck you up even at small dosages, but it greatly vary from person to person. I had massive jaw clenching on 100mg+150mg while my buddy experienced a much more resonable level. Any substance affects different people in different way, even effect-wise, but meph I found probably more than other things.
Also it's able to cause concerning side-effects even when not abused, and this is enough for me to stay away.
China Rider
Bluelighter
Fuck mephedrone, I ignored all the warnings and abused it during the month of October(10 grams). Well now every time I get my heart pumping my hands get a little pale and turn a reddish/SLIGHT purple tint...i'm really nervous of what this can turn into...have been taking fish liver oil and cayenne pepper capsules in hope to combat this bullshit...any other suggestions?(besides, go see a doctor)
Seems that the vasoconstriction caused by mephedrone is semi permanent in many cases, i wonder how that is possible?
This is a post on drugs forum, wich may be off intrest:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=627554&postcount=85
.xbuzzybeex.
Bluelighter
ive heard a few people talking about buphedrone, apparently a less harmful more potent version of mephedrone, anyone have any info on this at all?
buzz xxx
Buphedrone is a pretty weak stimulant from what i've read, its nothing compared to mephedrone.. If you want an alternative for mephedrone, go for methylone of flephedrone.
