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how to use ket and not get sloppy

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Need4speed

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my friend just got a little sample of k to use

he's not interested in tripping out staring at tree's or k- holes ect, his primary expectations are to be sociable and chill out and loosen up and not be sloppy

he respects all compounds he comes across so showing off isnt in the equasion

what ever feedback will be great, id say he will most likley be " taking bumps"

ive read other froums but those guys/girls seem too hard core with ket use, i figured bluelight is more educational so i ask here

thanks bluelights

N_4_S
 
Id start with an allergy test for safety sake.
You should also go to erowid and check the dosage chart, figure out what a small to moderate dose is.
One more thing he could do is, only take a certain amount with him and stick to just that for the night while leaving the rest somewhere else. When doing try and note the size of a bump in case you cant weigh it. Use a match head a something small like that for size comparison.
I hope this helps you, be safe, if not have fun.

Peace and Pot
DTHM
 
thank you

he was planning to start with i little like you said " size of a match head " since its powder he got and only a tiny amount figured a a small bump to start to see how he responds to it before using it around others

a match head size bump is what he will start with, he says he just wants to feel groovy and not so uptight around others

hes tried , weed, blow, opiates ............. K is next experience

thanks dawg
 
Need4speed said:
thank you

he was planning to start with i little like you said " size of a match head " since its powder he got and only a tiny amount figured a a small bump to start to see how he responds to it before using it around others

a match head size bump is what he will start with, he says he just wants to feel groovy and not so uptight around others

hes tried , weed, blow, opiates ............. K is next experience

thanks dawg
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Thatd be a good starting place. if he wants to up the dose id get a ruler and measure out a bump, about a quarter inch in length give or take depending on how the first round or two goes. Or hell even key bumps get the trick done.

Enjoy.
 
DawgTheHallMonitor said:
Im just curious, from the way the you worded your reply sounds like hes doing it right now. If so, do tell how its going.
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he partied pretty good over the last weekend, i forgot to add he played with molly as well

he wants to wait until at least thursday since he still coming down and functioning for his job ect....... over weekend he did molly, some perks and a few xanax in between ( 2-3 1mg xanax tabs ) to ease the edge

N_4_S
 
DawgTheHallMonitor said:
Thatd be a good starting place. if he wants to up the dose id get a ruler and measure out a bump, about a quarter inch in length give or take depending on how the first round or two goes. Or hell even key bumps get the trick done.

Enjoy.
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bumps off a key is ideal , hes not interested in plowing lines and going all out, hes a 9-5 er with responsibilities thats why he so critial about using it, he cant flow with the party for days on end like the younger generation he cant afford " not to give a sh*t"

thanks dawg
 
btw he doesnt get stimulated off blow, he says its non stop paranioa and traveling with it made him even more paranoid, so he's pretty much done with it
 
Well thats good. Blow is a waste in my opinion, to expensive and doesnt last long enough. But then again im not much of a stim person, nor a big fan a railing things
 
If by sloppy you mean impaired then I don't really think you're going to find much of a way around that with any dose of Ketamine, aside from sub-threshold doses that won't produce any effects ;)

If you just mean he doesn't want to be laying on the floor drooling and unable to move, then simply avoid higher doses and he'll be fine.

Start with an allergy test as always and then tell him to work his way up with 20mg "bumps". The good thing about Ketamine is it hits you near instantly and redosing works great, so you don't have to jump in at the deep end and can work your way up from a small dose to where you want to be :)
 
By "he", you mean "you", right? Don't worry, the cops don't care about you reporting on a board with hundreds of thousands of international members that you are going to take ketamine to get high.

And yes, ketamine will loosen you up socially, but it will also impair your judgement and motor skills. You can't have one without the other when it comes to dissociatives and GABAergics.
 
Never Knows Best said:
There's this really revolutionary drug that's great for this, it's called "beer." It's crazy easy to source some too. ;)
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nah dont like alcohol, i drink occasionally but its not my " thing"

Jesusgreen said:
If by sloppy you mean impaired then I don't really think you're going to find much of a way around that with any dose of Ketamine, aside from sub-threshold doses that won't produce any effects ;)

thats y he will start so low even if it doesnt phase him he willl know it increase bump size GRADUALLY

If you just mean he doesn't want to be laying on the floor drooling and unable to move, then simply avoid higher doses and he'll be fine.

Start with an allergy test as always and then tell him to work his way up with 20mg "bumps". The good thing about Ketamine is it hits you near instantly and redosing works great, so you don't have to jump in at the deep end and can work your way up from a small dose to where you want to be :)
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yep that the goal, maybe he's over thinking this but he is always cautious with anything new and something that needs to be respected

shishigami said:
I get very nauseated off of any dose of K --> I'm always sloppy.
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if he feels like vomiting its normal then? also allow him to vomit or encourage him to hold it in until it passes?

Survived Abortion said:
By "he", you mean "you", right? Don't worry, the cops don't care about you reporting on a board with hundreds of thousands of international members that you are going to take ketamine to get high.

And yes, ketamine will loosen you up socially, but it will also impair your judgement and motor skills. You can't have one without the other when it comes to dissociatives and GABAergics.
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he's gonna try to find that right balance/dose so he can use without desire to lay down , he's hoping a small bump does justice enough where he doesnt have to get loaded on booze to talk to people
 
One solution, that unfortunately might not be a real option for you or your friend, is using the R-isomer of ketamine only instead of the racemate which is by far the most common form of K found.

I get exactly those side of K effects your friend is looking for and don't get sloppy at all.

The other isomer (S-ketamine) which is also present in the racemate (normal K which is a 50%/50% mix of S and R) is responsible for flopping around and holing like a mofo. Personally I think R is useful for doing at parties and staying level, but it's also a bit edgy like MXE can be and especially what I hear about PCP and its analogues. I do K almost only at home and am the opposite of your friend: I like navigating innerspace and lying quietly on the sofa with the assistance of some music and/or visual input. But no, that is not a social thing at all.
 
Need4speed said:
if he feels like vomiting its normal then? also allow him to vomit or encourage him to hold it in until it passes?
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I would try to hold it. Puking on K didn't make it any better for me. Same with MXE. And with alcohol. 2C-E and DOC, puking on made it much better but that was different.
 
Never Knows Best said:
There's this really revolutionary drug that's great for this, it's called "beer." It's crazy easy to source some too. ;)
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While i agree with you on the fact that alcohol can be extremely sociable i do not agree with the sloppiness. In my experience and from watching many others fall all over the place alcohol can be one of if not the sloppiest out there seeing how most people stumble, fall, knock stuff over, and slur words. But Ketamine does produce ataxia (loss of motor coordination) and confusion or disorientation which adds on to the sloppy feeling.

My advice would be to listen to the advice that DawgTheHallMonitor provided you with, he not only gives a great and simple method on finding the right dose for a comfort zone but also a tip in harm reduction such as: take it slow on finding your dose and take an allergy test. Well put Dawg

And just as Jesusgreen said since it hits you almost instantly your "friend" can judge the experience rather quickly and assess whether it is a good idea to take another bump.
My words of advice are just to wait around 30 minutes in between each bump as the peak will have been set in or pretty damn close to setting in.

It does my heart good to hear of honest citizens with legitimate jobs trying to have fun but in a responsible and safe way but most of all, in a fun way for the user that will not induce a distasteful or dangerous experience.
BTW you came to the right place seeking answers. Bluelight users and mods almost always have the best advice as we are like you said more educational

Keep on 'lightin!
 
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