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Opioids How to use Benzos with Opioids safely.

I punch everything I take into the "drug interaction checker" on drugs.com. Many poly drug combos come up as "moderate", "severe", and "major". I particularly pay more attention to the "major" drug interactions.

Just an FYI of one more tool to use when taking shitloads of pills.
 
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xanax & any opiate is my favorite buzz in the world but yes, dangerous. i od'd last year from bupe & xanax, woke up 3 days later on a breathing machine and had no clue where i was/how i got there. scary shit, so be careful. i was lucky that the person i was with knew cpr and was there when i stopped breathing. unfortunately not everyone is that lucky. you sound like you have the right idea though so just keep being cautious, being scared is a good thing!
What were your doses of bupe and xanax when you OD'd?
 
the weird thing is some people can mix the same amount of opiates and benzos for many days/months and then just one time out of nowhere, they don't wake up, despite having a tolerance for both and not overdoing it. I get too paranoid, last time i was plugging dilaudid, like 8-12mg/day without a huge opie tolerance while being dependent on etizolam and i'd just fight the nods so hard because of that paranoia, just ruins the whole high for me.

i guess the safest option is to take as small of a dose of each as possible, of course that's no fun but too many people die from this combo, even on BL.

SO TRUE!!! i was on methadone maintenance for 1 yr, on 130mg ( JUST got off of it), anyway i have a tendency to abuse benzos on methadone, trying to chase a high or trying to potentiate the methadone, which i clearly cant succeed...i feel 100% sober mixing mad xanax on top of my methadone dose, matter fact i still feel not content i want more benzos..well as the evenings would come, i would fall asleep eating, or smoking a cigarette that i never had in my hand to begin with, i was in the danger zone, my dad kept getting up in the middle of the night to make sure i was still breathing as it was shallow..people die all the time for mixing benzos and methadone even if there tolerant to both, thats why i got scared for my life and switched to subs now...
 
I punch everything I take into the "drug interaction checker" on drugs.com. Many ploy drug combos come up as "moderate", "severe", and "major". I particularly pay more attention to the "major" drug interactions.

Just an FYI of one more tool to use when taking shitloads of pills.

Same here. Not necessarily the exact same website every time, but I always check extensively any and all possible interactions between pills I take (particularly when mixing a new combination)...or even if I'm taking something new and taking it alone - which I always do when taking a new substance - I find out the lowest therapeutic dose and then half THAT.
You can never be too careful and I personally would never put something into my body unless I know exactly what it is.
 
mixing benzos with opiates is fairly safe under a doctors supervision....if u wanna play doctor, well then it can be russian roulettte, or america's funniest home video outcome...
 
What were your doses of bupe and xanax when you OD'd?

16mg of bupe, 4mg (2 bars) Xanax, 4 gabapentin. It all hit me at the same time and I passed out & stopped breathing. Ill add that I have a high tolerance for opiates & had a high benzo tolerance at the time as well. It doesn't matter what your tolerance is, it can still happen.
 
Please be careful. It is a great high but u do have to dose pretty low until u know what's gon happen to ur body. This is how I OD'd the first time. Mixing benzos and opiates can be a dangerous game. There is a VERY fine line btwn catching that high and waking up in the hospital 3 days later not knowing wtf happened. Don't go crazy w/ that shit.
 
16mg of bupe, 4mg (2 bars) Xanax, 4 gabapentin. It all hit me at the same time and I passed out & stopped breathing. Ill add that I have a high tolerance for opiates & had a high benzo tolerance at the time as well. It doesn't matter what your tolerance is, it can still happen.

I made me mistake of taking an opiate and a benzo together (literally swallowed them together). Knocked me out for 22 hours.
A friend of mine who is and has been an expert on all drugs for many years told me to wait 40 minutes after taking the/a benzo before taking the/a opiate.
Worked out very well for me so far. And this guy knows what he's talking about.
 
Okay well I am just worried about the added Respiratory Depression from falling alseep. Now since Hydromorphone is very quick and short-Acting would I be 100% Safe if I just made sure I wait 2 hours after Snorting my last Dose before I go to bed. From my own Experience the majority of the High and Effects will be gone 2 hours later but I know the Histamine-Release lingers longer and can build up by the time the end of the day comes around does the Respiratory Depression work similar risk?
 
Okay I am Physically Dependent on Hydromorphone and I just got a prescription for Lorazepam to help me sleep at night. Now I figured best way to do this would be take my last Hydromorphone dose about 2 hours before bed just enough to prevent Withdrawal Symptoms. 2 Hours should be enough time to let most of it wear off and leave just the Lorazepam in my System allowing it to help me sleep and wake up nice and safely lol.

Is there any further advice someone would like to add and or something I am over-looking and or missing here?
As some that has been on 32 mgs of hm,2 mgs of ativan for the most part of 3 years. I would suggest only taking ativan if you really need it. I tried going off of it and I felt like my mind wasn't attached to my body. Brain fog, brutal paranoid, depressed etc. I am back on 2mgs but try to take 1 a day. It's helped getting the above withdrawl symptoms gone. As for hydromorphone, like you I'm physically depended on them. Zero high or euphoria besides doing what it's intended to do,help with severe pain.

If you're going to take both you should be fine, just start with one mg or half. Try your best not to go over that if you are going to use them long term. I don't see me getting back off them anytime soon. Definitely not a benzo for recreation but really is effective for anxiety and sleep. Combining hydromorphone with it does for me,give an extra sense of calmness and comfort.
 
If you're a tolerant patient should be ok....

Hydromorphone (Dilaudid)
Pregabalin
Valium & Xanax
Ethanol

Safe for a tolerant person....10-15 years daily plus Ritalin (Methylphenidate) 60-80mg IR
 
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