How to recall a lvl 6 Salvia EXP.

[ROBOtussin]

I took 1 big hit of 80x purple sticky salvia and tripped hard but only rememberd like the last minute of it. I was bored and alone, so I took a small hit of it, and when I started to feel it, all I could think about was my last trip and I remembered how everything felt and what I saw and heard. I didn't really trip on the small hit, it just made me remember my last one. I remembered that I was the ceiling in the dark part of a tunnel of a log ride and everytime my friends yelled my name, I would try to jump off the ceiling, but if felt like I was leaning over and was about to fall to my death! I forgot completely about that until the second I took that hit.

 

[egor]

Try chewing fresh calamus root before smoking it. Calamus centers you nicely and facilitates recall of the salvia experience, for me at least.

 

[bobby177]

Just BTW purple sticky extract is not what it claims to be. Their 80x is closer to 20x in reality.

 

[psood0nym]

If I remember correctly it's called state-dependent memory retrieval. I use the idea to try to remember dreams I just woke up from but rapidly forget all the time with some success. I don't go back to sleep, but go into an in between hypnogogic state, sometimes multiple times (in my private thoughts I call this later practice "skipping rocks"). Once in the state, I wait for hallucinations to begin. The hallucinations will often have objects or themes from the forgotten dream that act as cues for me to remember it more fully. The whole production is an interesting mix of conscious intention (effort to remember) and intelligent non-conscious cooperation (producing symbolically meaningful hallucinations that help me remember). It's as close to a dialogue with my own non-consciousness self as I've experienced. To be honest, it's kind of intimidating. It seems much more attuned to metaphor and all around smarter than "I" am!

You did something pretty analogous. By taking a lower dose of salvia you dipped back in without being taken into the dark by the undertow. It wouldn't surprise me if, through training, salvia visions, like hypnogogic dream memory cuing, could become intelligently responsive in their evocation of symbols and themes.

 

[solistus]

psood0nym: there's a reason Freud was so big on interpreting dreams. They are indeed a peculiar window to the unconscious and reveal, as you astutely point out, that its 'intelligence' operates symbolically much like conscious thought does.

The concept of 'state-dependent memory recall' in psychoanalysis is also quite interesting. The basic idea is that memories are essentially designed with the assumption that a more or less stable, static self had the experience and is now remembering it in a nearly identical state of mind. Drugs are a great example of altered states, but dreams, fever hallucinations, mood swings and all sorts of far more subtle changes in mental state saturate even our sober experience. The more dissimilar the remembering subject's mental state is to the mental state at the time being remembered, the more difficulty will be experienced properly recalling the experience. This can be dramatic, as with forgetting dreams moments after waking up, or more moderate, as with the difficulties fully remembering the weirder mental and experiential aspects of a trip even if one can remember the basic chronology of events.

 

[psood0nym]

Non-conscious intelligence is extremely fascinating. Very clever experiments in cognitive psychology over the past few decades indicate that there is very little that the non-conscious mind cannot do. The mystery that's emerging seems to be why, if we apparently don't need it to function, there is something so extraordinary as conscious experience at all.

One of the more interesting experiences I've had in my interactions with my non-conscious I term metahypnogogic reflection. Its name comes from the fact that the content of the vision references the process of having the hypnagogic vision itself. In my case, the vision revealed cues to recall a dream memory in response to my efforts to recall that memory while simultaneously displaying the symbolic architecture of the introspective process I was engaged in real time. It also seemed to connote multiple things about the messenger (the subconscious) of that memory. I wrote a report for Erowid on it a long time ago.

It's as though the non-conscious aspects of our minds are aware of themselves as "beings" (semi-permeable spheres of awareness) both integral to the conscious mind that interacts with the external world and as dwelling within their own mental worlds comprised of metaphorical symbols.