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How to Get the most out of Heroin?

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General_A. Napoli

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Well today was an interesting day... I picked up 2 grams of potent black tar heroin (from what I'm told). The problem though, is I have never truly gotten high off of heroin before. I used to have an 80 mg Oxycontin habit and have ingested opiates of all shape and sort. I have experience with opiates, but not the Father of Opiates, Diacetylmorphine.

Earlier today I tried smoking it off of a 4x4 of tin foil by heating the bottom and inhaling the fumes, just to end up with a disappointing buzz that didn't compare to oxycontin. I suppose my question is how can I get that buzz heroin is famous for? What's the best way of ingestion?

I know IV shots are the best way, and I am considering trying it but I would also like to know the other best ways to get high off of black tar heroin.
 
dissolve in a solution and plug it (not for everyone, but it works), or just try to hone your smoking technique
 
i really dont know much about BTH, ive only dealt with powder. what ive always wondered is how do you guys inject BTH? isnt it like a gooey wad of goo?
 
Black tar is a solid gooey mass of heroin. It's generally jet black, as it sounds and smells strongly of vinegar. There are multiple ways to ingest it, but I'm still unsure, which is why I started this thread.
 
I suggest you quit pussy-footing around, and just shoot it. Anything less is like buying yourself a 1960's muscle car, and then driving it at 5-mph under the speed limit. I mean, what's the point?

If you're traveling over thin ice, you might as well dance!

Peace,

Gatherer
 
^Don't give advice like that, it goes against the whole goal of this site. You can try dissolving some in water and then snort the mixture... it's often called waterlining. Be careful though, it's pretty irritating on the nose. Then there's plugging, and also perfecting your smoking technique. Try and find someone with a lot of experience smoking it who can show you the best way, because once you've got it down it becomes a very enjoyable high, plus I think the act of chasing the dragon is fun in itself
 
If you aren't into shooting as of now, I don't suggest starting. Yes it's the most efficient way of using it, and it's an utterly amazing feeling, but in the interest in H.R. no one is going to suggest this route.

Smoking tar in my opinion, is a complete waste. A lot of my friends love it.. not me.

Your other options are to cook it into a liquid and insufflate it, or plug it. Either of these two methods work quite well. Plugging is probably more efficient, it just takes some getting used to.
Snorting the liquid works well too.. if you try this way I suggest diluting the water as much as possible, because the more concentrated the solution is, the more it will burn.
 
Best way to get down on tar is the same way you would any other form, injection. Find a comfortable chair, sit, strap and shoot it up then nod out. Remember that the high is sort of different from Oxycodone, as Heroin is much more sedating versus stimulating. I had a 160mg OxyContin habit before I discovered tar and slapping my arm did the trick, although it took a few bindles.
 
i went from oxy to tar too, and at first i didnt even think the heroin was doing anything. The highs are very different, and if you stick to the tar you will eventually recognize the feeling and love it. It was weird at first i would smoke tar until i felt naseous but still didnt feel high really, now i can smoke and catch a nice nod on a little bit of good tar. stick to it and youll like it after a gram or two.

Also keep the flame way under the foil, try not to end up with soot on the bottom its tough but its better.
 
heroin just doesn't work for some folks.

i get high off it but hate it because i get itchy and usually throw up my guts

smoking it is the best way if you aren't going to shoot. if you aren't high enough just smoke more. maybe the stuff you got really isn't that potent.

honestly... you were already addicted to oxys why do you want to start doing heroin?
 
heroin just doesn't work for some folks.

i get high off it but hate it because i get itchy and usually throw up my guts

smoking it is the best way if you aren't going to shoot. if you aren't high enough just smoke more. maybe the stuff you got really isn't that potent.

honestly... you were already addicted to oxys why do you want to start doing heroin?

No, I did used to have an oxy habit though. I quit cold turkey a few months ago and the only opiate I was able to find recently was this black tar heroin. I think I want to IV it though, I tried waterlining (from the advice from everyone else) and I actually did enjoy the high somewhat, but it's still lacking something I got from OC. Because I want to see what's so great about this drug, I might try IVing it for the first time tomorrow.
 
I saw a few posts asking how it is possible to shoot BTH. It's actually pretty easy.
You just do it like other stuff I would imagine. You fill the spoon with water and bth. Cook it with your lighter. It will bubble a little and liquify. Then you throw in a piece of cotton and suck it up in your rig. Then shoot away.

(I would always blow on it before I would suck it up in the rig, I never liked that burning feeling when it first goes in)
 
Since my habbit I have moved to a new area and can't seem to find anything around here. I think I am going to aggressively look around tomorrow and ask anyone with a sign for money or something. Cause I can't seem to get any luck 'stumbling' onto any nibbles.
 
Chase it mate especially if u ain't keen on needles.
U might not get the rush but i find chasing a far more social and fun way of ingesting opiates.
At present theirs nothing of any note in the whole of the UK . I' d love 2 chase abit of tar atm enjoy.
 
you have to refine your smoking technique, that's the key, very little smoke is wasted when you do it right. I never injected because smoking worked great for me. but it did take some practice, I found that a hollowed out bic pen, lighter, tar and tinfoil is all you need.
 
No, I did used to have an oxy habit though. I quit cold turkey a few months ago and the only opiate I was able to find recently was this black tar heroin. I think I want to IV it though, I tried waterlining (from the advice from everyone else) and I actually did enjoy the high somewhat, but it's still lacking something I got from OC. Because I want to see what's so great about this drug, I might try IVing it for the first time tomorrow.

At least give plugging a shot before you jump right into IV use. You may find that it provides the effect you are looking for, and it is a much more "sustainable" ROA vs. IV.
 
ya i can relate to most people here.....i went from OC 10s to dope right way.......

weird that smoking isnt working......sorry to say that IV is sounding pretty good atm.......
 
i really dont know much about BTH, ive only dealt with powder. what ive always wondered is how do you guys inject BTH? isnt it like a gooey wad of goo?

ok, so here is "how to do it" and this is the safest way that I know of, and the best way i know of how to do it. I wrote ALLOT of extra information, its always better to be safe, than sorry and to late. Because with this, there is no messeing up and just doing it another way later, you mess up and od, or get infections, its done for then. I mean you wont always die from an infection but, who wants one tho right? Anyways. what im writing is for learning purpose's only, I am not condoning doing herion or telling you to do it at all, just informing on how to do it properly and safely for learning purposes if "someone" was to do it, or just wanted to know how its done safely periode. This is long but read it all before you decide or judge please.

Materials:
•One or two 100 unit, 1/2" insulin syringes. (50 units may be acceptable, but 30 units is definitely not. More than 100 units is fine too. 1/2" is a minimum figure. Ideally, IM injections are done with 1-1/2" syringes, but I personally don't have access to them and have had no problem with 1/2" insulin syringes)
•Spoon or cooker
•Clean water
•Rubbing alcohol, alcohol swabs, or both
•Cotton pads to apply alcohol (strongly suggested if you can't get alcohol swabs. Really, you should have both because swabs are easier to use to sanitize skin, and cotton pads soaked in alcohol are easier to use to sanitize and dry the spoon or cooker)
•Q-tip or micron filter ( I dont have a micron filter, so i do not have much experince there, but they r safe.)
•Hand sanitizer or soap
•Toothpick
•Something to cut off pieces of tar. ( try not to use razor blades or metal that has any sighns of rust, and tar residue will start to rust metal also so dont reuse)
•A clean, sanitary surface that things like q-tips can be put on

** Like I said, IM writing how to be EXTRA safe, you do not have to follow all the saftey steps if you feel safe enough, but im writing EVERYTHING on how to be safe and very cautises with this, def if its ur first time, but like I said its better to be safe than sorry, so please do not post things like thats not needed etc etc, some things may not be needed for everyone, but if you wanna be as safe as possible, and still recieve the same high and have fun, with no worrys this is the way to do it, plus its better to learn EVERYTHING and decide for your self on how someone would wanna do it or learn from this on there own.***


Procedure:
0. Clean the spoon or cooker with alcohol. This is step 0 because you shouldn't even think about starting without doing this. You should also use hand sanitizer or soap and hot water to clean your hands if possible.
1. Place the tar in the spoon or cooker and mix it with water. I use 20-40 units depending on how much I'm using, but I get very clean tar and my tolerance isn't as large as many other people.
2. Apply heat to the tar just until you see it begin to melt in the water.Do not boil!!!
3. Stir the tar using the back of the syringe plunger or a toothpick to and break it into smaller pieces. This should result in tens of little pieces of tar floating in the water. Using a toothpick is obviously less sanitary, but I prefer it because it doesn't collect tar like the back of the plunger does and I feel as though it handles better.
4. Apply heat again until you see the pieces become smaller. Once again, do not boil.
5. Stir the tar again.
6. Apply heat slowly. You should first see the pieces shrink completely leaving grit at the bottom of the spoon or cooker and then bring the solution to a boil, just for a second thats ALL! no longer, or you will start to cook the dope to and thats a waste.

7. Filter the solution
7a. Rip off a piece of a q-tip, wet it, and roll it into a tight ball. Drop the ball into the solution and slowly draw it up, placing the bevel of the syringe on top of the cotton ball and not allowing it to draw up the raw solution.
7b. If you have access to micron filters, prepare the micron filter by drawing water through it and discarding the water. Then draw the solution up through the micron filter. I personally don't have access to them, so I am not completely familiar with their use.

8. Draw up 5-20 units of fresh water after filtering the solution.( with the syringe that has the dope in it) This step is crucial. Whether this happens instantly or over time, you will see several small particles come out of the solution and collect in the syringe barrel. The addition of fresh, cold/room-temperature water decreases the temperature of the solution, forcing the insoluble particles out (this effect can be explained both by the relationship between temperature and the effect of throwing fresh water on an emulsion).
9. Let the syringe sit for a little bit regardless of whether or not the particles come out instantly.

Optional:
If you want something to do to occupy yourself while the heroin sits, or you want to conserve the leftovers from boiling which you should see on the spoon or cooker as a layer of brown resin, use a separate syringe to add water to the spoon or cooker. Using your plunger or toothpick, scrape the ends of the spoon and slowly heat the water until it boils. Then using the same filter from step 7, draw up the solution. You can now squirt this solution up your nose to not waste anything in the spoon. DO NOT, however, use this solution for IM injection. Anything that was left in the spoon or cooker is most likely not water soluble and should not be going into your muscle's or viens.

10. Clean the spoon or cooker with alcohol.
11. Discard the filter used in step 7.
12. Empty the contents of the syringe into the spoon. You should see a murky suspension.
13. Clean the syringe, emptying the contents anywhere but the spoon or cooker. (This is stuff you don't want in your body!)
13a. (3x) Draw up 20 units of water and move the plunger up and down the full length that was used earlier in order to catch any particles.
13b. (3x) In order to ensure that there are no particles caught in the needle of the syringe, draw up 50-100 units and apply strong force while emptying the syringe. The goal is to not have even one single undissolved particle in the syringe.
14. Filter the solution again just as you did in step 7.
15. Look in your syringe. You should see a translucent, completely particle-free, iced tea-colored solution. ( unless you used more dope than what im talking about,the more you use the darker it will start to look, but you still dont want it to dark or looking thick or particles floating, if u filtered and followed all these directions it should look like it would if you where shooting up China white.


16. Swab the injection site with rubbing alcohol and sanitize your hands again with rubbing alcohol or an alcohol-based hand sanitizer. If you used soap in step 0, then clean your fingers with, then use alcohol instead of soaping and washing your hands. The alcohol will work better.
17. Enter the injection site. I personally use my upper arms. The further up the better. Wherever you enter, enter completely perpendicular to the site (90 degree angle). Or a vien, DOES not have to be your muscle your entering.
18. Inject 10 units of the solution to get a feel for it (but still keep the needle in). If you feel a strong burn or pain, then the solution is not clean enough and you must filter it more. A small amount of pain is normal. You will definitely know if it's hurting too much. It is also a good idea to not inject into the site that you just felt pain it.
19. Remove the needle slowly. Have an alcohol pad ready for if a few drops of blood drip out
20. Pay attention to your body. If you begin to feel a worsening pain, don't worry too much. If the pain subsides within an hour, you should be fine. If it doesn't (or you begin to see a change in skin color or other signs that something is clearly wrong), then you have cause to worry.

These directions are NOT only for muscle injection, you can use these for vien injection also, they work the same. Some people do not filter or clean correctly when using tar herion, and that is why they get crazy abcest and infections and nasty looking trac marks, doing it this way will help to avoid all that, of course you will have trac marks, but they wont be gross or gaint, just normaly small marks, and this helps prevent absests. I have done it MANY of times, daily and still no infections or abcest. I used to get them, but I wasnt being smart and doing it correctly. I stoped that and now im still healthy. If your smart about it, take the little extra time its ALWAYS worth it. ITs better to take a little extra time to be smart and safe than having to take time to worry about did i do it right? Am i gonna get hurt or sick or infected, or have to waste the time to go to the hosp cuz you got a seruise infection or anything that your not sure about and need checked out, so be safe, take the extra time. its worh it, even tho it sucks lol. I hate it but im happier and safer. These directions are for TAR USE, if your using powder, like china white herion, its allot more simpler, still have to be safe, but unfortunatly with tar it can be a little more tricky, but can be fine if you do it the correct safe and smart way. HAVE FUN And ENJOY and be SAFE!!! ANd like i said, this information is for LEARNING purposes ONLY, Whatever you do with this information is on you, but I rather people be safe than to not be safe at all. And some people do just wanna learn even if they do not use, and that is what this information is for!!!! :D %)
 
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