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chapstick69

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Basically, I've been taking MDMA for the last 2 years. For 13 years clubbing, I never took drugs, only alcohol. It really did change my life for the better. 2014 was a great year!

This year however, the comedowns are becoming rediculas. Work is suffering as a result of my weekend activities. I'm starting to get concerned about what I'm doing to my body. I remember when I first started doing it. I said I would only ever take mdma crystals, no more than 250g (in one night) every 6 weeks. Seemed pretty sensible. A typical weekend now is a lot of alcohol, 1/2g MDMA, 2-4 pills, speed, coke and maybe a bit of MKAT. Actually, just writing that down has shocked me.

I'm heavily involved in the scene now and have some great friends. I'm now out at least 3 weekends of every month. I now produce music and get involved with event promotion. I love the party's and doing what I do, so much.

I would love to carry on doing what I'm doing, but without the drugs? I want to say no. I would love to do clubbing straight! I find it really hard to not partake when everyone else is doing it. The simple solution would be to stop clubbing. But its a massive part of my life.

Any tips?
 
When the comedown is worst than the high, it's time to let it go

You are not respecting the time between doses (1 month min - 3 month recommended) and you are taking MDMA (with other things) 3 out 4 weekends each month. What do you expect? You are not the exception to anything, your brain is the same as everyone else's.
 
Looks like you're new here and glad your asking for help bc you need it. Glad your looking for a solution and acknowledging theres a problem.
didnt you study this before doing it? (esp with harm reduction so popular now a days). Better late than never--its okay man I did ignorant stuff fifteen years ago with mdma, story ahead

ime 3-6 months (of course can always wait longer) is best to retain thats special feeling while being responsible. You can have a good time with out drugs,when good thing happen to people brains, brain scans show it positively changes their brains with rewarding chemicals and the opposite is true, having a tough life , things arnt working, negative brain changes occur as well. so fight for a good life bc when you win it changes you for the better. Drugs arnt the answer; however empathogic drugs, when used responsible (no more than 4x;s a year minimum ime) can help you sort out your problems and esp with a caring empathetic person, which can help you even more. (thats why trained mdma psycho therapy used to be legal, and thats why they're doing the maps studies)

are you testing your stuff? 250 mgs is way to high and every weekend, you're setting yourself up, if not already, for some difficult times. I did on average 30-35 rolls every weekend for six months , never got the magic back after waiting 4 months, then 2 more, so just quit all together. My second roll could have been 300-450 mgs , five days from my first, and I went into bad depression next few days afterwards , then kept chasing the feel good, untill finally it wasnt working. I feel like too much abuse caused my brain to become irrational, confused, cognitive impairment , so most likely the things you said work performance, and such has been effected by mdma abuse. The onl thing you can do is give yourself a long break and live a healthy lifestyle-if you cant say no to drugs because of social proof of the crowd , then time to say good bye. these people sound like uninformed e tards. (again its okay i used to be one)

based on my experience it slowly got better , and within two years , my brain seemed to be okay. I eventually did get the magic back ; surprise, after a thirteen year break off all empathogeons! Looks like your in a long road to recovery, and study up in the mean time and learn why this has happened, and how to prevent it ever happening again, while still getting the feeling once in a blue moon
 
Thanks for taking the time to reply to this. Actually just posting what I'm doing made me realise I need to sort this out sooner rather than later. I'm off to Ibiza next week. Am I being unrealistic to stop now?

I'm not respecting the time between doses. It's just become a habit of going out and what goes along with it. I did do my research before all this. I just never envisaged being out so much and it ending up like this. It just kinda happened.

This is the first post I've made on here, though have been reading posts since before I started. I do need some help now, I just need to get out of the habit and mindset that I need to take something everytime I go out. I need to do as many nights straight as possible. I'm quite strong willed when I'm sober. But if I drink, I just think f**k it. So it's kinda all or nothing for me. It does my head in.

My friends would support me all the way if I explained what's going on. It's just the way it would make me feel. I'm not testing my stuff personally, but I do use certain people who do.

I'm a quite annoyed at myself for getting into this situation tbh. My plan is to drive to the events for the rest of the year and not do any drink or drugs.
 
I used to roll weekly a couple years back, after awhile you're right it's not fun. I switched over to booze weed and L, you can't be around that scene sober, trust me I've tried. Sometimes i would take a fat dose of L and a k-pin and pretend i was rolling. It almost worked. :P

This last april i bought 3 pac man press pills and had the best rolls of my life on em. And last weekend i got some shards which were lovely. Its just a matter of time i feel like, and the wait is so worth it. I fell back in love with MDMA, and maybe accidentally fell in love with the person i rolled with heh <3
 
Wutang_Forever said:
I fell back in love with MDMA, and maybe accidentally fell in love with the person i rolled with heh <3
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good to hear youve regained magic back. I did as well after abuse.

btw you did fall back in love with that person and was no accident. When you already have a deep connection with someone and you do mdma it just amplify's it and brings out feelings that are there

again, when I abused it, the feelings went away, so very few and far between is a must for keeping the deep true amazing empathy
 
chapstick69 said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply to this. Actually just posting what I'm doing made me realise I need to sort this out sooner rather than later. I'm off to Ibiza next week. Am I being unrealistic to stop now?
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My honest advice here - if you were smart enough to get travel insurance (and that it covers cancellation), can your trip and start the recovery process now. I know you don't want to do that, but really...Ibiza sober, and in this state? :(
 
dmtmixalis said:
If you can stay sober in Ibiza, you sir, are a true hero.
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My first trip to Ibiza in 2010, I went 100% sober. And I had a great time. You don't NEED the drugs to have fun. They are fun, but you don't need them. Trust me. But that depends on the person, of course.
 
I tried going to club sober one night, I was shocked to see how people dance stupidly LOL
Another night I was with this lady friend who's anti-drug so we were both sober, does high on dark chocolate counts!? and had a fun time dancing
If you really think about how bad you feel on comedown/days after, you'll learn.
 
Personally I can't do clubbing sober. Festivals, sure no worries. But the nightclub scene just isn't enjoyable sober. Well, there are some aspects of it the can be enjoyed sober, but it's pretty much limited to shit like just chilling on a couch watching all the idiots haha. It's just the whole part I enjoy about clubbing personally is taking MDMA and losing myself dancing with friends.

However rather than find an alternative drug like alcohol (which I just don't drink at all any more) or something, I simply moved on from that lifestyle. While I was single, I'd go out once a month and roll (which when I look back, I would rather have taken a little longer break). Once or twice I pushed it taking only 2 weeks off, but it wasn't worth it at all.

Since I met my now partner March last year, we've gone out clubbing together a handful of times. I'm actually glad I'm the one to introduce her to MDMA given everything I've learned here on Bluelight, and subsequently passed on to her. We've not taken any less than an 8 week break between rolls, though lately 2-3 months.

So really for me personally, I love clubbing but only when I'm rolling...so I decided it was better for my health in the long run to cut back, and find other means of socialising ;)

EDIT: and nobody give me that "you don't need drugs to enjoy X" bullshit haha
 
I've actually went to raves sober and had OK times. My friends all went to raves like EVERY WEEK. But, I wanted to stay healthy so limited my uses to 1-3 months. I've actually fell asleep at raves (sober) cuz well, yeah. You just have to make a decision. Just remember, you're only doing damage to yourself...
 
I used to be high every time I went to clubs, even if it was just a bit of weed. I used to do MDMA often when I went to clubs. I remember when everything changed. My dealer left town and I couldn't get MDMA for a while, so I was clubbing without it, and I just found the whole scene so boring. When MDMA came around again and I took it, it just didn't create the same illusion anymore. It's like I saw through it.

Clubs in general are boring, and I notice that among most people, drug use is done just for the hell of it, or to create fun. But I'm thinking, if a scene dull enough that you need to be high to enjoy it, then what's the point? I love being high in scenes that are already awesome because it puts them over the top.

I did MDMA almost every weekend for 6-8 months when I was younger. By the end of that, my health completely collapsed and I had to quit my job and go on disability. I probably still have mental health problems to this day because of my ignorant choices back then. Even now if I do MDMA once or twice a year, it has long-term impacts. Kind of sucks because some of my other adult friends do MDMA with only short term come downs, but it's because they've never binged on it. I think my neurons are just sensitive to it now.
 
Clubs in general are boring, and I notice that among most people, drug use is done just for the hell of it, or to create fun. But I'm thinking, if a scene dull enough that you need to be high to enjoy it, then what's the point? I love being high in scenes that are already awesome because it puts them over the top.
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While I'd emphasize that not all clubs are alike, on the whole I strongly agree with this sentiment.
 
I've never been to Ibiza, it's on my bucket list.
However, instead of doing the usual touristy let's party non stop for 10 days (I'm a little too old for that now) I would like to explore the Island, check out the beaches, the best local food etc etc and probably just pick one or two nights to go clubbing.
 
if the music is good I don't need drugs for partying. nowadays I mostly smoke some weed while going out, because it makes music even nicer, but during the 2 years when I didn't smoke I almost always went out sober. not a big fan of stims, but when the music bangs, I can dance like there's no tomorrow anyway :)

I don't drink alcohol at dance parties because it makes me too confused and sloppy to dance how I like to dance. weed is my favorite drug for dancing!

but in general, if you wanna go sober and you cannot enjoy yourself at all, it might tell you something about the place you're at to be honest...
 
If you're going to be a weekend warrior I reccomend only taking 1 drug plus alcohol 1 night a week. Like, just take speed and alcohol.

MDMA hs a much longer longterm effect profile IMHO than dabbling in speed once a week. Or do like coke and alcohol in moderation.

The potential for addiction is there but IME it feels like I can bounce back from coke/speed in a day or two and it takes like 3-5 days to bounce back from MDMA.
 
You should be waiting 3+ months between rolls, if you arent. You will be fucked up. Sounds like you are abusing drugs. This is my thing when im clubbing during my breaks. Edible + a drink here and there throughout the night. I find a nice synergy there for dancing. Also, joints + small amounts of alcohol are fun. Its pretty much my go-to when im not rolling (which is a special occasion) Remember, if you love dance music for real, you should be able to club completely sober and still have a blast. Ask yourself WHY do you really go clubbing?
 
I 'like dance music for real' but won't do clubbing sober. Need I quote my post above to explain why? Or will you still insist I shouldn't need drugs to enjoy clubbing?

Seriously, anyone who actually believes that someone has a problem if they don't enjoy an activity without the addition of drugs should shut up and keep it to themselves. It's not what OP asked.
 
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