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Stimulants How to avoid dieing tonight?

cyberius

cyberius

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Hi so

90 days ago I had a life/sanity threatening dose of crystal meth. Since then I've improved my health and recovered a lot. My question is, will I have consequences if I use crystal meth again tonight? I have a gram sitting next to me and I'm ready to use again. I did DXM and I drink occasionally and my mind seems resilient enough to handle minor drug use, would 500mg of meth kill me?

My main concerns are that I may have a kindling type affliction for seizures, adregenic storms, serotonin, and schitzophrenia, as the overdose was NOT pretty and I had incredibly real hallucinations occuring in all my senses for a day after the overdose. I mean granted I took a gram in a half in a single dose after being awake 3 days on a bendor, but still. My liver was in the bottom 1% when I had my health tested days after the overdose. I've been told if I continue using anything I'll get cirrhosis of the liver and face certain death, but I've been drinking and I've yet to have any symptoms and exercising heavily to where I'm in pre drug use physical shape.

Sadly to say, if there's a reaction and I don't reply, move this thread and post to bluelight shrine.
 
Sorry dude, can't tell you that it's ok, not what BL is about. Certainly can't predict what, if any, consequences may occur from using any amount. With the health problems and your other concerns it honestly doesn't sound like a great idea.
 
Damn. Probably not. I was gonna say, if you're new dose was 50-100mg, even then I would give a word of warning as doses can increase progressively over multi-day benders. Sounds like when you use, you do it all at once. Perhaps not the best thing to do to yourself. There isn't such a thing as long term tolerance to that effect, unless you increase it slowly over time.. and even then a bunch of other adverse health effects tend to appear. Wishing you the best of luck, however if I were you I would stay away. Perhaps if smoking it - try to smoke smaller amounts and involve yourself in rewarding activities? At least then, you'll still feel the reward of having it in your system, and perhaps be able to function normally for a short to medium-term length of time. Even then, there's not any guarantees. It's much easier to say yes to just a bit more once you're already under the influence.
 
I wouldn't do 500 mg man, just do a little at a time, till you're good, remember you can always do more, but you can't undo what you did.
 
Is there anything that would be of benefit if you were to use again? Like the rave to end all raves with with some good friends that are leaving the country soon, or VIP passes at a new casino or anything that would make the experience more valuable than just a cure for boredom?
You're intelligent and have a lot of experience with meth so I would ask yourself what makes this planned usage more important than abstaining and putting the emphasis on your health. At the very least add some milkthistle and hydrate if it's a foregone conclusion . The smoking smaller amounts does seem like the lesser of two evils if it comes to that but we can't give our blessings on this one, sorry Cy..
 
I'm more concerned about the alcohol if your liver is really that bad.

A lot of people don't realize they're having serious liver problems until it's too late. As a drug user, your chances of getting a transplant are slim to none, and even if you did, it would be a life full of even more "dos and don'ts" that can otherwise kill you. So keep in mind that if you're having any symptoms, it might already be too late to save your liver. You're almost there already.

As for the meth, that is a massive dose. I would recommend against it.

It sounds like you need professional help. Are you seeing a psychiatric specialist of some kind?
 
I booty bumped the whole shebang last time because the imaginary swat team found my stash (wot)

I plan on doing 100mg lines every 2ish hours to stay TWEAKTARDED
 
Slow_Mobius said:
I'm more concerned about the alcohol if your liver is really that bad.

A lot of people don't realize they're having serious liver problems until it's too late. As a drug user, your chances of getting a transplant are slim to none, and even if you did, it would be a life full of even more "dos and don'ts" that can otherwise kill you. So keep in mind that if you're having any symptoms, it might already be too late to save your liver. You're almost there already.

As for the meth, that is a massive dose. I would recommend against it.

It sounds like you need professional help. Are you seeing a psychiatric specialist of some kind?
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What signs should I be aware of for liver issues... Shit
 
cyberius said:
What signs should I be aware of for liver issues... Shit
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That's the rub. A lot of people don't have any noticeable symptoms until they reach the point of liver failure, and at that point, the only option is often a transplant. If it's an acute overdose on something, they can basically try to neutralize tbe poison, but if enough damage is already done then you're just fucked.
 
It's irresponsible using like that which makes governments emergency schedule more and more substances every day. Why can't you just enjoy the high and not take it to overdose extremes?
 
If I was in your position, I likely would either use no substances at all or possibly use cannabis from time to time instead of alcohol along with other drugs. If your liver function was that bad, it could really be a life or death issue, especially with regard to the alcohol. Liver function that is worse than 99% of the population is dangerous business, and even if you aren't experiencing symptoms, you're on the precipice of having a serious problem with it, especially as the doctor said that continuing to drink and do drugs would result in cirrhosis that would likely become fatal. As for the meth, it would be best not to do it at all for sure. Especially as amphetamines can be bad for the liver in some people I have heard (though to a lesser degree than alcohol, but 500 milligrams of meth is an extremely (dangerously) large dose for anyone and you'd likely be more prone to liver issues from any substance if your liver is already in a vulnerable state). While meth may not cause liver problems on its own for most people, 500 milligrams of meth would likely cause some temporary issues mentally for pretty much anyone and certainly wouldn't be good for anyone's health, and it could be disastrous for you if your liver is already strained.

If you do take the meth anyways, as it is possible you already have, don't take it all at once. That would be more of a strain on your liver. And since it's such a large dose (for anyone, even if they didn't have a liver issue), perhaps share some of it with some friends or otherwise have a way of not taking all of it yourself.

I wouldn't drink either if a doctor said my liver was in bad shape and my doctor hadn't said the condition had reversed itself and/or it was considered medically okay to do so. Because liver damage can kill you. If I were in that position, the only thing I would consider to alter my headspace would be cannabis, and I'm not even suggesting that. Just saying that if I got that sort of news from the doctor, that's probably the only thing I'd do or even consider doing.
 
I don't plan on doing 500mg at once and jt was my vape juice that arrived tonight not the crystal
 
Just remember man chipping rarely ever works out how you plan, i know every time I've ever tried to just do it one more time it falls to pieces and I'm back where I was.
 
OP, people don't generally get a "feeling" that they're liver is failing. I'm just saying, please don't approach your situation with a "well, nothing is going wrong" attitude, because if your liver is truly as bad as you say, it could easily kill you and/or cause severe scarring and cirrhosis. You should not be drinking Alcohol at all, not even a single drink. Given the bad shape of your liver, one Alcoholic drink might as well be a handle of Vodka.

I'm not judging you man, but please take better care of yourself. We don't want you to die. We don't want to see you needing a liver transplant. At the very least, use recreational substances that don't harm your liver. They are myriad, so there should be no reason to use Alcohol.

I really think it would be in your interest to start taking Thiamin (B1). Deficiency of Thiamin is a really common feature of Alcoholics. Lack of Thiamin is a major agent of Wernicke-Korsakoff Syndrome, colloquially known as "Wet Brain". Wet Brain is the culprit when you encounter chronic Alcoholics that just seem to have gone crazy or lack much of their executive function. This is a permanent condition. Please start taking a Thiamin supplement in addition to just treating your liver better!

We are here for you man.
 
Keif' Richards said:
OP, people don't generally get a "feeling" that they're liver is failing. I'm just saying, please don't approach your situation with a "well, nothing is going wrong" attitude, because if your liver is truly as bad as you say, it could easily kill you and/or cause severe scarring and cirrhosis. You should not be drinking Alcohol at all, not even a single drink. Given the bad shape of your liver, one Alcoholic drink might as well be a handle of Vodka.

I'm not judging you man, but please take better care of yourself. We don't want you to die. We don't want to see you needing a liver transplant. At the very least, use recreational substances that don't harm your liver. They are myriad, so there should be no reason to use Alcohol.

I really think it would be in your interest to start taking Thiamin (B1). Deficiency of Thiamin is a really common feature of Alcoholics. Lack of Thiamin is a major agent of Wernicke-Korsakoff Syndrome, colloquially known as "Wet Brain". Wet Brain is the culprit when you encounter chronic Alcoholics that just seem to have gone crazy or lack much of their executive function. This is a permanent condition. Please start taking a Thiamin supplement in addition to just treating your liver better!

We are here for you man.
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Thank you for the information om wet brain. I couldn't use drugs anymore (parents) but they let me drink all I want. I don't really like alcohol honestly amd I really don't drink all that much.

*sigh* what recreational drugs don't harm the liver? Don't all of them harm it? I'd rather die than stay sober.
 
Cannabis is a pretty safe bet. Really a lot of drugs aren't hepatotoxic, but you'll also want to stay away from drugs that could potentially be cut with something hepatotoxic. Benzos or z-drugs would even be better than alcohol, but you don't want a benzo addiction.

I asked before, but have you seen a psychiatric specialist of any kind? They might really be able to help you
 
Slow_Mobius said:
Cannabis is a pretty safe bet. Really a lot of drugs aren't hepatotoxic, but you'll also want to stay away from drugs that could potentially be cut with something hepatotoxic. Benzos or z-drugs would even be better than alcohol, but you don't want a benzo addiction.

I asked before, but have you seen a psychiatric specialist of any kind? They might really be able to help you
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I don't want help

Cannabis blows shit

Id rather be an addict
 
Sounds like you've made your mind up then. Hopefully you at least spend some time with the people you care about before you kill yourself with substances.
 
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