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how to achieve the BEST euphoria

Awwww, don't be upset!
I'm sexy!
Just kidding...
Just keep in mind it's a discussion....
Peace, grrrrly girl. :)
 
i fell in love once....it was EUPHORIA...she was so perfect and round, she made me happier than ever before. her name was molly. I have to say a really good roll with some good music. Hell you don't even need good music. I would have to say MDMA is the hands down anwser.
 
It's hard to even consider that anything else could be slightly euphoric after IVing cocaine.
 
I guess perhaps the terminology is what's throwing some people off...
I do agree the highest state of euphoria will be achieved with chemicals outside the body...
(There was no need to be a shitbrick, Effigy.)
Anyways, I just see two sides to the triangle and uh....yeah, whatever.
Muuuuuhaha.... :)
 
5T3ll4R, I think my main problem with your posts was that you kept saying that you found it hilarious that someone would have to use drugs daily in order to cope with life. To each his own, I guess. I dont find any humor in that though. I was there before. I havent been there in a long time. It's not really funny. In fact, it's a really sad state of existence. I'm not really thinkng of myself when I say that. I actually had the time of my life when I was high everyday for a few years. For many others though the party isnt quite as fun.
It just sounds like you would sit in front of a methadone clinic so you can point and laugh at the junkies.
[ 10 January 2002: Message edited by: Effigy ]
 
my gripe with steller's posts...he sounds like he is confusing happiness with euphoria. imo happiness on a daily basis is not achieved through drug use. but intense feelings of euphoria are. getting checked out cuz you are hot produces a feeling of happiness, but you can't compare that to a meth high or a mdma. and i also agree that it is narrowminded of you to dismiss heavy drug users as nerds. i personally am not a heavy drug user, but that has more to do with my brain chemistry than my values. i just have some natural anti susceptibility to chemical dependence.
 
I don't find humor in other people's misfortunes.
I do find it humorous that people are willing to argue that their LIVES depend on drugs for happiness, euphoria, whatever you really want to call it...
My first roll was nothing spectacular. I've had extremely good experiences since then, but don't put a template on other people's ideas...
My point would be this...
And this will be my last reply to this seemingly never-ending thread...
Sooner or later, you will realize and most likely agree, that there are other things in life that will make you happy.
Nobody abuses hard drugs regularly from their early lives into adulthood and remains productive and successful..
Some of these replies imply that people actually think their lives will consist of little more than drug-inspired, false euphoria experiences and : This saddens me.
I'm not being a prick, and Effigy, with that last post you made it kinda made me wonder what you were talking about in all the other ones...
If you too feel sorrow over hearing people fuckin' up their lives on the shit, then why defend that lifestyle in the manner you did?
Like I said, this discussion is never going to end, and it exited the stage that the subject originally entered on...
I'm out, good luck with the path you folks choose to lead in life.
peace.
 
Well, stellar, what if you're not the model citizen & you don't find pleasure in your job, house, social position, religlion, romance, etc..
Has it ever occured to you that the people here that use drugs on a daily basis have already tried all those other "natural" highs & tired of the emptiness of it all? Why do you think so many people today, both young & old, are on anti-depressants or benzos(myself included)?
At least drugs give you what you expect of them(usually). What do you mean by productive lives? 100K a year? 3 cars? A dream(exactly, a dream..) girl to spend the rest of your life with? Are those the other things you say that will REALLY give euforia. Ok drugs may not be the final answer, but these other things aren't either.
 
No, I completely agree with you. There are many things in life that make me happy. Like aliengirl said though, there is a big differnce tween happiness and euphoria. I'm happy most of the time. Euhoric maybe once or twice a week.
Also, are you confusing me with someone else who posted here cuase I only posted twice and I didnt defend that lifestyale at all. I just thought you were being an arrogant dick and I pointed it out. It doesnt matter anymore.
"with that last post you made it kinda made me wonder what you were talking about in all the other ones..."
Before you take off fix that typo...please. Not beign a dick at all but since it's directed towards me I wanna know what you meant.
Like I stated befre IV coke kinda ruined everything else for me. Many things in life make me happy. Other drugs are fun. Nothing but IV coke is truly euphoric. Well orgasms are euphoric but sadly that rush is shorter lived than a coke blast.
[ 10 January 2002: Message edited by: Effigy ]
 
"losing my viginity wasnt 1/10th as good as my first roll, or any experiances after that." i wouldn't agree with my FIRST roll. Cause it was kind of shitty, i was with one of my mates who had done it before who just spent the entire time stressing about me and askign me if i was ok, so it kind of killed it. my LAST roll, however,, on NYE was definetly 10 times better than loosing my virginity. Maybe more. :)
 
When I stopped i.v. coke and speed - and coke was better but more difficult to get hold of - I thought like you effigy that nothing could compare, but after using heroin i.v. and then shot both the stimulants - after a 14 years break - I didn't like either of them anymore. Not even the hit when you injected. It was as if nothing but heroin was anything.
 
God, what a let-down this thread is.. look, no one can tell anyone else they are "wrong" for what they believe is the ideal euphoria... for me, I can easily say that drugs produce a greater euphoria then being in love, losing my virginity, getting hit on, etc.. for some this may not be the case - for me it is..
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, (as I was in stating that I wasn't going to reply anymore), But I'm sure you were the one who said I was an asshole.
PhreeX is right in saying you can't put a label on someone else's idea of euphoria...
Like I said in my LAST post...
What's euphoria to some isn't to others...
I do agree there is nothing in life that will occur naturally that can replicate the feeling of being high on your favorite problem.
Let's end this discussion on a good note, I don't have beef with anyone and like heated arguments as long as everyone stays mature.
Peace.
 
And Tyler, I wasn't saying "Go to the mall, get looked at. Lead a "normal" life."
You missed my point.
When I say productive and successful, I mean at daily living, not how much money you make or how many cars you have.
That would make me shallow, which I'd like to think I'm not.
Peace.
 
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