how to achieve the BEST euphoria

[Photon Master]

25mg oxys railed, wait til you itch, take off your shirt, lie on your stomach, and have a hot girl straddle you and scratch your back with her looong fingernails (with a good amount of pressure). If you've never had this done, DO IT! You must try it before you die! Oh yeah, have 'em scratch the front too. And your legs. And head. And balls (haha)

 

[HTK]

I can Honestly say that i have experiances that ive found better than any drug ive tried. Theres a girl i love and no drug experiance has even come close to some of the time ive spent with her, First pill was with her and we had fun, but it was nothing compared to some of the sober times we had. Saying all that though ive had some mighty nice Euphoria, Whoever said Ecstacy+Smack was bang on, THAT is Euphoria.

 

[Brainrape]

A few notes...
Chemically induced euphoria IS natural euphoria...
And surprise, surprise, this thread has shown us that kids prefer drugs to being sober, or "natural highs", welcome to being like a billion other people on this fucking planet, there is nothing wrong with any of you, you're not radically different or unnatural in anyway...
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"Rock and roll adolescents storm into the streets of all nations. They rush into the Louvre and throw acid in the Mona Lisa's face. They open zoo's, insane asslyums, prisons, burst water mains with air hammers, Chop the floor out of passanger plane lavatories, shoot out lighthouses, turn sewers into the water supply, administer injections with bicycle pumps. They shit on the floor of the United Nations and wipe thier ass with the treaties, pacts, alliances."

 

[fairnymph]

Geez.

Do I get shitty drugs (joking) or do I just love life too much?
Dave, that's very observant of you...now, can you remember (without looking at my email) what my middle name is?

Brainrape - excellent point! EVERYTHING IS CHEMICALS -- this is why I am a chem major!

 

[*kell*]

Another vote over here for MDMA & Herion, that really is the true meaning of bliss.

 

[PhreeX]

Phyllis (sp?) ..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)

 

[5T3ll4R]

I'd hate to start shit, but I have the pheeling someone was a nerd in highschool...
I'm into substance abuse hard core, but to assimilate everyday unliveable without chemical alteration is hilarious.
Draw the line, phruit cake...
Or remain in your state of being, as it matters not to me...
Information is good, but fairytales are too much...

 

[PhreeX]

Originally posted by 5T3ll4R:
I'd hate to start shit, but I have the pheeling someone was a nerd in highschool...
I'm into substance abuse hard core, but to assimilate everyday unliveable without chemical alteration is hilarious.
Draw the line, phruit cake...
Or remain in your state of being, as it matters not to me...
Information is good, but fairytales are too much...
What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[quale]

Whoever said that to say `needing drugs everyday' is sick or whatever...you were probably a nerd. Well FUCK YOU. You probably ARE on drugs every day. Your brain produces chemicals (or is otherwise genetically organized) so as to make normal life pleasant for you. However, just as there are midgets and giants we should expect some people to be exceptionally happy and others to be depressed. Critisizing PhreeX (and others here) because their chemicals aren't synthesized inside their cells is the height of pettiness.
There is a program on the discovery channel on about daredevils. These are individuals who jump 200 feet on a motorcycle while on fire for the rush. Anyone else think it is absurd that for doing something which is far more destructive to their life than anything but a datura habit they are lionized placed on TV and given protection by the sheriff when they are essentially doing the same sort of thing drug users are doing.
Moreover, there is evidence which suggests that early social isolation (perhaps because people called them nerds in school) causes chemical deficencies in the brain. It is precisely this sort of judgemental attitude towards them which makes them require artificial assistance in the first place.
Instead of telling ppl that they shouldn't need drugs everyday (what about the truly mentally ill with psychiatric medicines) why don't you help make better drugs which let these individuals be happy productive members of society with fewer side effects.

 

[quale]

For the record I have to say my best euphoria ever has to be at a rave on e. Pure chemical stimulation really isn't enough...stims, e, opiates all leave something lacking. Drugs plus achievement (or impression of achievement) of other life goals plus social interactions however is ungodly good.
Don't get me wrong the drugs are the essential part of the equation. I was so euphoric because the E let me love (yes truly love) more than I have ever experienced the other people at the rave and when that love is returned (or appears to be returned) it is utter bliss (yes I have good loving relationship with parents, and had it with a woman but quite simply the love of everyday experience is nothing compared to that induced by e). Combine this with the natural euphoric nature of e and you are out of this world. However, doing e in a differnt setting would have been nowhere near as good. This of course suggests (given all these moods are mediated by chemical brain states anyway) that much much much better drugs are possible. It is our duty to find them.

 

[PhreeX]

I would agree fully with quale - a rave while on MDMA is a pleasure greater then most anything that could be produced naturally... my first such experience was FAR greater/more euphoric then the first time I fell in love, the first time I had sex, etc...

 

[5T3ll4R]

Someday in life you'll realize.
Drugs are fun, aren't that bad for you in moderation or even in excess with experience...
But when you substitute life's true joys such as love, you've got something wrong with you...
This isn't coming from an anti-drug sign toting cowboy, it's coming from an everyday user...
Eventually you do have to realize what life is about.
Of course this comes down to philosophy of life and personal iteneraries...
So we'll leave it at that : To each his own.

 

[5T3ll4R]

And a sidenote: Chemically achieved euphoria is not the same as naturally induced...
Though it may involve some of the same reactions within the body, receptors, etc...
It still isn't the same....
Hence my nerd comments...
You can't replicate the feeling of knowing you're a good looking guy...
You can't replicate the feeling of walking through a mall and having chicks turn their heads...
And you can't replicate the feeling of holding your son for the first time...
You can SUBSTITUTE it, but as I said, that's just hilarious.

 

[Binx]

Couldn't agree more (W/ Quale, PhreeX) my first pill at my first-ever rave blew me away.
That single night reduced all my supposedly "happy" non-drug induced memories to nothing.
It gunned them all down *evil laugh here*
Couldn't imagine life without drugs...
Thats not a sad thing, its just that anything thats good... well it makes it 10 times better
[ 07 January 2002: Message edited by: Binx ]

 

[tathra]

first use of mdma is probably the most euphoric thing you can experience.
5T3ll4R: maybe that crap works for you, but that doesnt mean it works for everyone. girls check me out all the time, but never even bother saying anyting to me, and i have no self confidence and could never say anything to them, so really all it does is piss me off
is it just me noticing this, or has anyone else noticed that high intelligence and lack of love for life seem to be related? not attacking anyone here, but all the really smart people i know basically hate life and get more pleasure from chemicals than from anything else

 

[Aja909]

smak and rolls :D w00t!

 

[quale]

Yes tatha that really does seem to be the case (about smart people). Sucks doesn't it. Those who don't abuse drugs sometimes are content but never really seem that happy (with some notable exceptions). I wonder if it is enviornmental (not fitting in as children) a consequence of their intelligence (see how meaningless many things are) or just genetic.
I agree too much drug use can be hard on the body...this is why I probably abuse less drugs than you. However, I am luckier than many in my level of happiness.

 

[5T3ll4R]

My IQ is 160+, via a fly-in test at a known university that took a weekend to complete...
I'm a smart person, possibly the exception to the rule?
As I stated, I'm not disagreeing that experiences aren't enhanced tenfold by outside chemical interference, but can you really say that you can't be happy without drugs?
It's totally different...
As I said, I'm not really ripping on anyone, but you're a nerd if you lack the self confidence to live life without the fear that without drugs, you can't be happy.
I would refer to you as a joke, possibly even a moron.
The realization is, someday, in some shape or form, you will be without, and if you've relied on drugs for what you can achieve through daily living...
You'll fall apart, as most of the people who agree with Phreex will...
I'm no hypocrite, and I do get fucked up beyond what most of you experience...at least from what I've read...
I just strongly disagree with this outlook and harbor pity for those who follow this philosophy.
Peace.

 

[5T3ll4R]

And being so intelligent only encourages smart and informed drug use...
It also inspires flaming lame responses...sorry.
But being smart is the greatest gift you can ask for, if you feel unintelligent or "you hate life", enjoy your drugs but most definitely take the time to look at life and what it has to offer.
What are your plans for life?
Mod a forum for free on this site?
If you plan to sell drugs, which is not a bad choice, then your lifestyle might suit you...
But...
Phreex was speaking about being accepted to a medical program : you have no future in any medical establishment with a history and or future that involves abusing drugs...
You aren't going to succeed with a medical career with where your life is aimed...
I'm a mechanical engineer and I have it tough as it is, I couldn't imagine coming to the doctor's office and seeing track marks or dilated pupils...
Haha, maybe I'm wrong!
To....each.....his.....own.
Plain and simple.

 

[Effigy]

You sound like a real asshole. You criticize others for finding happiness in drugs. Then you claim that you "do get fucked up beyond what most of [us] experience." You are a hypocrite,and you're wrong.
Also you are sadly mistaken if you think that you are even one of the most intelligent people here. You write like a 6th grader. I'm almost embarrassed for you.

but to assimilate everyday unliveable without chemical alteration is hilarious.
^^No, what you wrote is hilarious cause it makes no sense.

My IQ is 160+, via a fly-in test at a known university that took a weekend to complete...
I'm a smart person, possibly the exception to the rule?
Your IQ is 160+ via a test??? That's hilarious too. You are not an exception. You seem quite stupid to me.

You can't replicate the feeling of knowing you're a good looking guy...You can't replicate the feeling of...having chicks turn their heads...
Could you be more shallow? Like I said you are an asshole. Nobody gives a shit about anything you have to say so you might as well shut the fuck up and move on.