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how to abort oral DMT.

Youkai

Youkai

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whats a safe drug that can be used to abort a overly intence oral DMT experience?
 
I am not sure, but I think you will have to be careful due to the MAOI nedded to activate it oraly. I have been wondering this myself.
 
egor said:
I am not sure, but I think you will have to be careful due to the MAOI nedded to activate it oraly. I have been wondering this myself.
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which is why I put it here and not psychedelics.
 
Damn, that is a tough one. I would be very hesitant to attempt an antipsychotic as they can have paradoxical side effects with an MAOI. I think that a beznodiazepine (e.g. diazepam, midazolam) would be your best choice, if not your only viable choice. But why squelch your trip (save for a psychotic or otherwise dangerous reaction)?
 
Riemann Zeta said:
Damn, that is a tough one. I would be very hesitant to attempt an antipsychotic as they can have paradoxical side effects with an MAOI. I think that a beznodiazepine (e.g. diazepam, midazolam) would be your best choice, if not your only viable choice. But why squelch your trip (save for a psychotic or otherwise dangerous reaction)?
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not me, people who may be introduced and underthesheets not ready.
 
Adrenochrome said:
how about not;

just pass me the glass my friend
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ever had a manic episode? a psychotic break? what about dealing with someone who ahs. its not fun and somethingt o abort the experience is good.
 
I'm also interested. I can't imagine not loving oral dmt, but then again, no matter how spun I get smoking it in never lasts more than a half hour. The thought loops never make it around the giant curve.

From what I have read, dosages are all over the place. Strange business...
 
kong said:
I'm also interested. I can't imagine not loving oral dmt, but then again, no matter how spun I get smoking it in never lasts more than a half hour. The thought loops never make it around the giant curve.

From what I have read, dosages are all over the place. Strange business...
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yeah, and sometimes you miss calcualate a dose.


adrenocrome, I can handle it, its the possibilty. being prepaired just as much as prepreation prior to taking it.
 
Adrenochrome said:
Dude it you can't handle drugs don't do them
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Advanced & intelligent resopnse eh?

Don't think anything will abort an oral DMT experience, best you can hope for is to make it safely managable (not sure how phenothiazines & MAOIs go together, or any other groups of antipsychotics for that matter); for that I'd go with fuck off doses of a very fast acting benzo (diazepam is simply not going to act quickly enough unless it's rectal or by injection). I'd say lorazepam (Ativan) for oral or midazolam for other routes (if available)
 
fastandbulbous said:
Advanced & intelligent resopnse eh?

Don't think anything will abort an oral DMT experience, best you can hope for is to make it safely managable (not sure how phenothiazines & MAOIs go together, or any other groups of antipsychotics for that matter); for that I'd go with fuck off doses of a very fast acting benzo (diazepam is simply not going to act quickly enough unless it's rectal or by injection). I'd say lorazepam (Ativan) for oral or midazolam for other routes (if available)
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thanks I have access to lorazepam in almost unlimited supply.


and again, this is about how bad ass you can be, sometimes the going gets to ruff for your mind to handle, and instead of doing possible long term damage to your psyche just ease out of the experience befor you scar your self. Iv never had to abort a trip (besides droping cid and not wanting to trip for 8 hours) but I dont want to risk me or someone I talk to completely wigging out in the middle of the woods one night.
 
I've had a friend spiral out too far on DOI/MDMCAT and start to really panic. Having an intense panic attack during a psychedelic experience makes for a bad, bad trip. Unfortunately, all I had was clonazepam, which worked but took an hour to start kicking in. Sublingual midazolam or lorazepam would have been perfect in this situation. Alas, this psychotic experience forever turned her off to all psychedelics and really chemicals in general. So, while I have never wanted to cancel my trip, I can see where it would be essential. I would recommend 2-4mg lorazepam or 7.5-15mg midazolam orally whilest talking them down (which can be almost as difficult as hostage negotiation).
 
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Riemann Zeta said:
I've had a friend spiral out too far on DOI/MDMCAT and start to really panic. Having an intense panic attack during a psychedelic experience makes for a bad, bad trip. Unfortunately, all I had was clonazepam, which worked but took an hour to start kicking in. Sublingual midazolam or lorazepam would have been perfect in this situation. Alas, this psychotic experience forever turned her off to all psychedelics and really chemicals in general. So, while I have never wanted to cancel my trip, I can see where it would be essential. I would recommend 2-4mg lorazepam or 7.5-15mg midazolam orally whilest talking them down (which can be almost as difficult as hostage negotiation).
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"NO, NO, NO, NO tHATS NOT REAL, YOU ARNT REAL!!! OMG IM DYING!!! IM IN HELL WHO THE HELL ARE YOU REALY, ARE YOU JUST ME TELLING ME IM DEAD? ARGH!!!!!!"

"no, your on a realy potent psychedelic, it will pass in a few hours. You'll back to normal, here take my hand and feel that Im here with you, THIS WIL PASS"

"NO,NO, NO!"

yeah it sucks when people freak out.
 
fastandbulbous said:
Advanced & intelligent resopnse eh?

Don't think anything will abort an oral DMT experience, best you can hope for is to make it safely managable (not sure how phenothiazines & MAOIs go together, or any other groups of antipsychotics for that matter); for that I'd go with fuck off doses of a very fast acting benzo (diazepam is simply not going to act quickly enough unless it's rectal or by injection). I'd say lorazepam (Ativan) for oral or midazolam for other routes (if available)
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"Drug interactions, including an increased incidence of extrapyramidal effects, have been reported when some MAOI and phenothiazines are used concomitantly."
 
Yeah in that sort of situation I would be very hesitant to use antipsychs due to the risk of interaction with the MAOI.

I'd go for a quick acting benzodiazepine with anticonvulsant and anxiolytic activity.
 
As others have said, fast-acting benzos are the way to go!

If lorazepam or midazolam are not available, I recommend alprazolam (Xanax).
 
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