• 💊 OTHER DRUGS 💊 Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Notable Threads 1 Notable Threads 2
    Dangerous Combos Addiction Support
    Emergency Services Benzo Guide v.1
    Addiction Stories Scary Case Studies
    Biology, Pharmacology & Drugs 101
  • Select Your Topic Then Scroll Down
    Alcohol Bupe Benzos
    Cocaine Heroin Opioids
    RCs Stimulants Misc
    Harm Reduction All Topics Gabapentinoids
    Tired of your habit? Struggling to cope?
    Want to regain control or get sober?
    Visit our Recovery Support Forums

Benzos How the heck are benzodiazepines addictive?

Blind Melon said:
Fuck with that Alcohol, those Opiates, or some Benzos and you will experience what real addiction is. It's not being able to physically move without your drug. It's not being able to eat without your drug. It's not being able to go score your drug without your drug. It's not being able to think rationally.... I laugh at stimulant addiction, not that I wish it upon anybody. But honestly, every time I hear some coke-head bitch about "withdrawals" I just wanna smack them in the face. Try 195mgs of Methadone + 250mgs of Diazepam a day for a month straight (I'm not dick-sizing, I'm explaining just how retarded my addiction has made me). When you need to take a lethal dose to get out of bed, and only then, can you bitch about addiction. That's addiction.
Click to expand...

This. I agree with you 100%. You know you're addicted when your body alerts you to the MINUTE that you hit your dose schedule, no matter what you're doing. Back when I was taking Xanax, I had a 15 minute period where if I didn't get Xanax in my system when that first alert hit, letting me know I was starting to come off of it, that I would have a panic attack and have to double my dose.

I can't tell you how many times I doubled over at work (I worked in a call center no less so you can imagine how disruptive this was) because I simply took too long getting the pills in my system.

I have NEVER experienced anything like that with any other drug. Not even close! Benzos are just plain pure evil in a pill. When I switched to Klonopin, my time period went to about 30 minutes, sometimes 45. It wasn't until I switched to Valium that I got a good 2 hours before I'd have a panic attack and I don't know if I'd be here right now had I never convinced my doctor to switch me to Valium. Of course the downside is that I furthered my dependency on benzos... So now I'm going through the motions with a taper.

I can tell you that I've cold-turkeyed every drug that I've ever taken and gotten over it... But benzos... No fucking way. Stimulant addicts have it easy because they get to SLEEP!
 
I believe (and i may be wrong) that OP is asking what it is about their effects that make them desirable to use habitually.

And if I'm not mistaken the addiction that forms with benzos is a physical one, not psychological.
So it would be less of the person having a intense desire for the effects of benzos, and more about the persons body requiring the drug in order to feel normal.

-p
 
Insomnia from opiate withdrawal is utter hell and I already have insomnia. I can only imagine what benzo withdrawal induced insomnia is like. It must be at least twice as worse as what I have gone through recently trying to get off buprenorphine.
 
wds insomnia from opiates is particularly bad but overall i find benzo and amp wds to be just as troubling just in a different way and there are reported cases of people dying form opiate wds
 
Same reason even on a switchover One to another half tab isn't even the equivalent
 
Clonazepams not addictive. Cross that 1, off
weak pills good 4 the garbage can bout itt
 
piller97 said:
I believe (and i may be wrong) that OP is asking what it is about their effects that make them desirable to use habitually.

And if I'm not mistaken the addiction that forms with benzos is a physical one, not psychological.
So it would be less of the person having a intense desire for the effects of benzos, and more about the persons body requiring the drug in order to feel normal.

-p
Click to expand...

I think it depends on what you're taking them for. It is VERY easy to form a psychological addiction to a sedative - just look at the people who get addicted to DPH for sleep. The same thing goes for people who have panic attacks. Benzos are a godsend. That in itself makes them dangerous because of how quickly they can bring relief.

Captain.Heroin said:
Insomnia from opiate withdrawal is utter hell and I already have insomnia. I can only imagine what benzo withdrawal induced insomnia is like. It must be at least twice as worse as what I have gone through recently trying to get off buprenorphine.
Click to expand...

The worst thing about benzo withdrawal insomnia is the light sensitivity combined with the weird body pains. My pupils grow to the size of marbles from all of the adrenaline that my system gets flooded with in withdrawal to the point that with my eyes closed, I can still sense ANY light around me. Couple that with weird pains in your body when you close your eyes and you've got a recipe for a never-ending cycle of starting to pass out from sheer exhaustion and waking up constantly because of the pain shooting through your body. Then the hallucinations start. Everything just gets progressively worse. At the peak of my last withdrawal, I had gone almost 5 days with zero sleep, my heart was pounding out of my chest, I was burning up, I was sweating, I was shaking, I was nauseous, I was hallucinating... If I could have moved at that point, I would have jumped off the balcony but I couldn't even get up to use the bathroom because my chest was so tight. I was pissing in bottles and cups and anything I could get my hands on because my heart would shoot through the roof whenever I would try to walk even to the kitchen, let alone the bathroom. I've never been so miserable in my entire life.

Needless to say, I couldn't take it, and I went to the ER. They ran two ECGs because they weren't sure on the first one, shot me up with a shot of Ativan which didn't bring down my vitals so they shot me with a second one and then sent me home with a script for Ativan and I had my roommate get my Valium the next day. That was just from 20mg of Valium no less.

Dunno said:
Clonazepams not addictive. Cross that 1, off
weak pills good 4 the garbage can bout itt
Click to expand...

Uhhh... Clonazepam is certainly addictive, I don't know what you're smoking but its one of the most addictive benzos.
 
Dunno, I beg to differ. I am extremely addicted to clonazepam.

I'll to try make a long explanation nice and concise, so to the OP:

How could benzos possibly be addictive? Already it is apparent you do not and potentially have not ever suffered from anything but the usual, healthy anxiety. When you wake up every morning to dash to the toilet to vomit--you'll understand. When you're so self conscious you're living your life in 3rd person--because that's the only way to bear it/yourself--then you'll understand. When you have to pack 3 shirts with you everywhere you go because you know you'll just sweat through them all--you'll know anxiety. When you can't sleep at night because...

Now imagine a little pill (or in some cases a handful of them) that makes all those worries go away, you aren't stupid and yet you no longer give a fuck. Suddenly you can breath. You didn't realize it, but your back is relaxed for the first time in how long? It can be almost like a shot of heroin. Not to mention the psychological addiction is pure insanity. I will always be an Opiophile first, but it may just be the benzos that have me by the balls... what with GAD, social anxiety, panic attacks and chronic insomnia...
 
Ugh, yeah the insomnia aspect of any withdrawal is bloody hell. The worst part is that it lasts so damn long.. even after you feel better during the day and all your other symptoms have gone after a couple weeks.. you still don't start getting good sleep for months sometimes.

I had a seizure last year when I was in detox after about 9 days without sleep and really really dope sick.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
Ugh, yeah the insomnia aspect of any withdrawal is bloody hell. The worst part is that it lasts so damn long.. even after you feel better during the day and all your other symptoms have gone after a couple weeks.. you still don't start getting good sleep for months sometimes.

I had a seizure last year when I was in detox after about 9 days without sleep and really really dope sick.
Click to expand...

Owwww that sucks man! I'm so sorry about that. Sounds painful and agonizing.
 
@musterman what a big internet tough guy you are. you made shit up, said it as fact, got called out and now your crying. you must lead a wonderful life
 
If you don't find benzos worth as a drug, be extremely happy with that little fact! I've never managed to get properly addicted to benzos or anything else affecting the GABA system, which I can only really attribute to the fact that I've always taken 'therapeutic' doses of such drugs, but....

When people say that opiate withdrawal compared to benzo withdrawal is like comparing a wee headache to a gunshot wound to the head, it makes me shudder. I've been whacking the phenibut too hard lately and am sort of giving my new hookup for 1mg xanex for absolutely dirt cheap the side-eye, due to that little fact.

I just cannot.
 
Clonazepam has a different pharmacological profile compared to the other benzos.

I mean hell, you know something is weird about it the first time you chew one up and get that almost minty flavor compared to the absolutely disgusting and vile taste of alprazolam and diazepam! :p
 
moe.ron said:
@musterman what a big internet tough guy you are. you made shit up, said it as fact, got called out and now your crying. you must lead a wonderful life
Click to expand...
LOL, what shit did I make up?

Some people are simply not interested in knowledge. They just wanna share their little anecdotes. They want their own beliefs to be confirmed. We love drugs, everything is all good. Well, and when sometimes it's not, we at least want to get a pat on their back.

And when somebody says something you don't want to hear all you do is cry out "source?" That's ridiculous. Why I am more liable to provide references than others? I have other work to do. When I work, I provide sources. When I hang around BL for half an hour, I won't always do that. I may not have the time. I still try to argue scientifically to the best I can. But this is an informal exchange. You can't expect me to regularly point others to references or data. Of course, I'm all happy if somebody volunteers to compile references or data.

Lastly: despite your hostile tone, here's a suggestion for you. Why don't you put "addictive potential" into google, or search a research database (and/or journal database)? You will find that it's the majority opinion that quite a few stims (e.g., cocaine) are considered more addictive than commonly-prescribed benzos.

Lastly: despite your hostile tone, here's a suggestion for you. Why don't you put "addictive potential" into google, or search a research database (and/or journal database)? You will find that it's the majority opinion that quite a few stims are considered more addictive than commonly-prescribed benzos. Obviously, a lot of variables are gonna matter (ROA, etc.) but I tried to make a simple statement. I'm not here to write papers.

tl;dr this constant call "source?" is to be considered trolling. do your own research!
 
Last edited:
I could never understand the appeal either, then I ended up dependent on them.

I started using etizolam as a sleep aid (I can never sleep well, plus I use stimulants). Then I stumbled upon the realization that etizolam + 4-FA is extremely, maniacally euphoric. I would stay up for days binging on both substances until I was having vivid open-eye hallucinations. Most days I'd only take a very low dose of etiz, but binges did happen.

Before I knew it, I'd been taking etizolam daily for over a year. Quitting was absolute hell but I had no choice. The drug had destroyed my mental and physical health to the point where I couldn't even stand a taper--I had to quit cold turkey.

Worst experience of my life. Been off since late September and will never go down that road again.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top