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How often do you go through withdrawls

Between being addicted to daily marijuana(5+ years), temazepam(1-2 years), pregabalin(almost 3 years), nicotine vapor (7 months), kratom((2 years?) while taking other opioids (not daily) such as tramadol, hydro/oxycodone and PST. I honestly don't know how much of what I've been feeling is withdrawal and what is "normal" anymore. Obviously I know when I'm deep into withdrawal but when it comes to the PAWS I have no fucking idea far too many overlapping addictions.

I came off temazepam about a year ago but I still take them 1-2 times a week. I kind of recently c/t kratom while tapering pregabalin at way too fast of rate, I still have 2-4 weeks left to go with that. After being off kratom for about a month I came back and got high on oxy and hydrocodone which then lead back to mostly daily kratom and frequent use of PST and hydrocodone. I think my tolerance is higher now than it was before my break lol. :(
 
jammin83 said:
I am in withdrawal every day, all day. Been that way for over a year. Kicked benzos and opiates plenty of times but the damn psych drugs fucked me off. Zyprexa has pretty much fried my brain. I don't if anyone can really fathom what being in withdrawal for a over a year is like, but its a long ass time. It has been the worst feeling in the world and really indescribable unless you have felt it before. It's a constant pulse surging through your veins that makes you hate to be alive. I have also kicked phenibut, opiates, and alcohol at various points inside of this withdrawal bc I was using them to cope. Kicking kratom starting tomorrow, no biggie, its all the same anymore. You learn to live outside of your skin. I seem to be permanently manic now, not the fun, euphoric, cocaine type of manic either. Can't sleep and all speedy. I am constantly hot. Sweating all of the time. Mood swings, paranoia, and hundreds of symptoms. A bad trip gone bad. I think it has permanently effected my mind in some ways. You can't experience that type of mental anguish for that long and not be permanently affected. FUCK!
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Damn bro reading your post made me suicidal through the entirety of the read. I feel alot better knowing I am still doing drugs.

Withdrawal while clean fucking sucks and people do not understand it. I hate it when I get forced to get clean and I go to a meeting and some kid who is like 22 tells me that it will get better. I am thinking to myself "Listen you little bitch, I have been using longer than you have been using and clean and I have pulled more clean time then you. You have no clue what real drug addiction is and the only thing you are addicted to is the NA chants, picking up chips and getting props from other losers, and the money your parents give you for stopping your miniscule flirting with drugs."

I feel for you man cuz I gave getting clean a legit go many times and was succesful without a fucking program until I got injured bad and well now its all shit and I got 7 years or so of IV drug use under my belt and regular opiate dependence for twice that time. I started kinda young with pills and really everything.

I dunno about everyone else here but if I smoke a shitload of pot, I don't get withdrawals that bad but I grace the court system with my spectacular urine quite often so I never risk it. Drug tests just make it so I can only do hard drugs.
 
heroin is a motherfucker. ever since my wife went back to the homeland for a minute i have been buying and sniffing as much heroin as i can stuff up my nose. the shit we get is not great. it was a gram to get me feeling good, warm, happy, but 2 grams to get fucked up for say 8 hours. shit is much cheaper than in the USA, but i know i am getting ripped off even though i am paying half of what i used to pay stateside, just because there is too much of the dope, its too mediocre, and israel is too close to dope producers to not have cheaper stuff. regardless, i spend half the week mildly sick. it takes about 24-36 hours since my last dose to get really harsh, but 72 hours in and i cant hold down food. i rode the fuckin bus to tel aviv the other day vomitting into a seat next to me because i was 4 days in, shaking, sweating, puking. i walk up to the dope man (who is ALWAYS outside) and buy my gram, take it all to the face and BAM i feel great for 8 hours. sat outside with the illegal immigrant and gangsters and chilled with my fellow scum of society. my gorgeous wife would be horrified.

im currently 48 hours into a withdrawal and took some otc codeine to ease it, surprisingly 60 milligrams of the codeine is driving away most of the sweats, which must mean the dope I get is CUT TO SHIT. hahaha. i even feel a faint glimmer of psychoacivity.

im thinking about kicking it for good sometime soon, but man when you have 500 bucks in your hand, the wife is away, and you aint got work... and you know the man will be outside... saying no is hard. even so id rather do this than maintenance. tht nightmarish existance of "never high but almost always sick" is the worst. as bad as being a junkie is, the ups and downs are part of it. id rather go up, then kick, then come down off of it and do it again when i have money than spend my whole fucking life standing in line at the clinic waiting to get WELL.

still i need to kick it for a while soon, spending every check i get from the government on heroin and pizza and cigarettes sounds way fucking cooler than it is.
 
Ugh man I used to go through heroin withdrawal like every morning, afternoon and night. Then, once I waited on the dealer for like 3 hours, I'd be shaking so bad I'd miss half the time. That was seriously some shitty living. It was a constant state of desperation. Immediately after doing it I'd start worrying about getting money for more. I had ZERO control over myself with it. I swear it was like feel good for about a minute, then normal for maybe 4 hours, then hell for what felt like forever. I finally went to the methadone clinic & stayed for 2 years and just quit 20 days ago. So basically, I've been withdrawing for 20 days. Fun stuff.
 
withdrawal is momentary. I learned to detox right. Its the damn PAWS that always had me going back for just one more.

I remember, being on the turnpike withdrawaling so many times...sneezing so much that I could barely see the road. Driving as fast as I could switching lanes like a crazy person....Never again I hope.
 
Every other month or so but I have a formula that works for me and I can limit the damage so to speak
 
I think opana wd's are worse than heroin wd's.

I had a friend get opana to get off smack and well a few days later he called me up to get some heroin to get off the opana.

Opana has its own special nasty feel. You smell it in your sinuses even if you shoot it. It is just gross for the next day and then it goes into I dunno just heavy regular wd's but morning opana wd's are nasty and the only thing that works for it is more opana, some heroin, or ketamine.
 
yeah dopemaster, I only shot opana if no morphine was available. Sometimes that high is too much, and yes it always lead to me throwing up the next day...not while I was high on it, but the leftover taste in my throat, coupled with the fact I would usually be waking up dopesick. Its like plastic and stale cheerios. Opana is not a functional opiate either.

for content: I used to get alcohol withdrawals bad. The shakes are no joke.
 
A couple to a few times a week. I think ive posted in this thread like 3 times. Cuz...my addiction is getting shiftier and shiftier. I cannot fund my habit and was kicked out of the suboxone program 2 weeks ago. Withdrawing again now. Its day one and ive only recently taken sub....but bad you guys know that first day is Shitty no matter how much sub you take. At least for me...
 
good luck woamotive! If you need someone to shot the shit with then send me a pm. Ive been through it and made it to the other side. think of me as your own private cheering section.
 
As often as I want to, my addictions are legal.

Doesn't help the fact that I'm still an addict.
 
Last winter I picked up a mild habit and I noticed if I didn't have some type of opiate daily I would get uncomfortable. When I stopped using Kratom over the weekend to clean up for a drug test I noticed my blood pressure went up. Idk if that's related to Kratom, or the excess caffeine in my system to compensate :)
 
That is true in some cases, dopemaster. A prime example is the neurotoxicity of (severe) GABAergic withdrawal, and of course the detrimental effects of seizures from said withdrawal.
 
dopemaster said:
I think withdrawal does more harm to the body than the actual drugs.
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Yeah. I'm not sure if it's backed by studies yet but I bet that a good part of the 'addiction memory', the circle of abstinence, relapse etc. and all that is exacerbated by the obsolete practice of cold turkey.

There are pharmacological ways to reverse tolerance to opioids as well as GABAergics, possibly even dopaminergics. You can get off either addiction without too much discomfort, as many anecdotal reports and even human studies prove. Just that the practice doesn't keep up with the science.. this causes masses of people to suffer completely without need.
 
dopamimetic said:
Yeah. I'm not sure if it's backed by studies yet but I bet that a good part of the 'addiction memory', the circle of abstinence, relapse etc. and all that is exacerbated by the obsolete practice of cold turkey.

There are pharmacological ways to reverse tolerance to opioids as well as GABAergics, possibly even dopaminergics. You can get off either addiction without too much discomfort, as many anecdotal reports and even human studies prove. Just that the practice doesn't keep up with the science.. this causes masses of people to suffer completely without need.
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Are you talking about NMDA antagonists? Could you link the studies you're talking about please? I'm intrigued as you make it sound very trivial that you can get off an opioid/GABAergic dependence without too much discomfort.
 
It's not trivial of course, but it's a reality and I've done it successfully w/ opioids. The GABAergic link is more difficult but there is backing evidence.

Unfortunately I'm out of time currently, but look here as a starting point. I'll post more details and references soon on my blog :)

Also DAMGO is really remarkable, and that thing about respiratory depression.
 
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