How often do you consume serotonergics and have you "lost the magic" with MDxx?

[Darksidesam]

How often do you consume serotonergics and have you "lost the magic" with MDxx?

**Read Before Voting in the Poll**

List of serotonergics, just in case you don't know
- Amphetamines, including Methamphetamine, Amphetamine (Adderall, Dexedrine), 2-FA, 2-FMA, 4-FA, and similar
- Pure serotonin releasers, including 2-AI, 5-AI, MDAI, IAP (5-APDI)
- Other empathogenic drugs, including 5-APB, 5-APDB, 5-API, 6-APB, 6-APDB, Methylone, Mephedrone


How often do you consume serotonergics and have you "lost the magic" with MDxx?

This poll as requested by Jesus Green is very interesting.
Also please note that the poll votes are not anonymous.

I personally went from using :

3 times in a month, (Noticed big Loss of magic needed higher dose)
So i started waiting 40 days, then eventually 60 now i have waited 3 months+ and i roll harder than some people who are new to mdma.


I Owe it to a high Tryptophan diet as well as exercising but please note supplementing etc WILL NOT prevent significant loss of the magic. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/entries/...equire-lower-dose-and-lessen-have-no-comedown

I think i nailed supplementation but even I found i couldnt roll once a month on 100mg (very nice and pure mdma) so waiting is very important.

 

[psilence]

**Read Before Voting in the Poll**

List of serotonergics, just in case you don't know
- Amphetamines, including Methamphetamine, Amphetamine (Adderall, Dexedrine), 2-FA, 2-FMA, 4-FA, and similar
- Pure serotonin releasers, including 2-AI, 5-AI, MDAI, IAP (5-APDI)
- Other empathogenic drugs, including 5-APB, 5-APDB, 5-API, 6-APB, 6-APDB, Methylone, Mephedrone


How often do you consume serotonergics and have you "lost the magic" with MDxx?

This poll as requested by Jesus Green is very interesting.
Also please note that the poll votes are not anonymous.

I personally went from using :

3 times in a month, (Noticed big Loss of magic needed higher dose)
So i started waiting 40 days, then eventually 60 now i have waited 3 months+ and i roll harder than some people who are new to mdma.


I Owe it to a high Tryptophan diet as well as exercising but please note supplementing etc WILL NOT prevent significant loss of the magic. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/entries/...equire-lower-dose-and-lessen-have-no-comedown

I think i nailed supplementation but even I found i couldnt roll once a month on 100mg (very nice and pure mdma) so waiting is very important.

First took 120mg of MDMA at Burningman 2008. Quite literally took my breath away, and I can honestly say it has saved my life.

Have been rolling (responsibly) ever since, always with 3 month breaks (often more like 4-5 months) and the lowest single dose that will work for me (around 130mg).

EDIT: Should also say, every time has felt like the first time.

 

[ebola?]

There are issues with your poll.

Amphetamines, including Methamphetamine, Amphetamine (Adderall, Dexedrine), 2-FA, 2-FMA, 4-FA, and similar

unsubstituted amphetamines are unlikely significantly serotonergic (at remotely reasonable doses). 2FA very likely is not. 2fma is unknown.

- Pure serotonin releasers, including 2-AI, 5-AI, MDAI, IAP (5-APDI)

2AI's mechanism is not fully known but is very unlikely serotonergic.
...
The wording "serotonergics" is a bit confusing. At first, I thought you included full and partial serotonin agonists, but you seem to focus on releasers.

Your poll options' punctuation is inconsistent, and the options' wording is ungrammatical, making reading through the answers a bit confusing.

ebola

 

[MollyFein74]

I wouldn't consider Amp as a serotonergic... MDxx class yeah.

Loss of magic/mdxx tolerance from a high amp tolerance theory most likely isn't because of serotonergic activity, more because of norepinephrine/dopamine tolerance.

 

[Darksidesam]

There are issues with your poll.



unsubstituted amphetamines are unlikely significantly serotonergic (at remotely reasonable doses). 2FA very likely is not. 2fma is unknown.



2AI's mechanism is not fully known but is very unlikely serotonergic.
...
The wording "serotonergics" is a bit confusing. At first, I thought you included full and partial serotonin agonists, but you seem to focus on releasers.

Your poll options' punctuation is inconsistent, and the options' wording is ungrammatical, making reading through the answers a bit confusing.

ebola

I don't know full list of serotonergic drugs tbh and i had read through it before i posted this up, as requested by Jesus Green.

I do think that other drug use does come into play maybe when it comes to keeping the magic with mdma.

The poll wording is like that because i ran out of room , you are limited so i had to cut it back.


Im going to leave it as it is, because its getting the right message across. Wait time is important and i think that not waiting long enough is harmful.

 

[rolls_]

2 year break, lost the magic even with pure molly, m1, meph, meth.

 

[epic11]

2 year break, lost the magic even with pure molly, m1, meph, meth.

ouch.

 

[cerebral_cortex]

took E several times on average a month or so appart for about 1.5 years - was starting to notice loss of magic. Took a 2 year break, then got ahold of some pure, lab tested mdma pills (125mg) and while i was mashed pretty good, the magic wasn't there. Took a few more cracks at it, and while still quite enjoyable experiences, just not the same as the first 5 or 6 times with mdma were. After a while i gave up on mdma, and discovered methylone, which i soon grew to love as much, if not more than mdma ... magic was there big time at first, but diminished slowly over a year or so of use. I still do methylone occasionally, and enjoy it, but no magic usually felt anymore.

 

[mark881]

Been retaining the magic recently, but I've done MDMA pills with a 3 week and 2 week break the last two outings - and I have lost the magic. Definitely. I am probably taking a 3 or 4 week break now just because of what dance events are running. It is pretty annoying and sucks ballz tbh. Wish there was a way round it.

 

[FunkayRavin]

How many times can you go to disneyland and still have fun? Its not just mdma, all psychedelics will lose that crazy feeling you get the first few times. Ive been taking mdma for probably 12 years now, its still fun as hell. For the last few years, *real* mdma was impossible to get. After I finally got some, it was amazing. Its been so long I dont think I even remember what the "magic" felt like, but I do know its not quite the same. Its still fantastic.

If you're bummed out that your drugs arent working anymore, its time for a serious long break. MDMA should always be fun.

 

[MollyFein74]

First rolled about 5 months ago and used to take the 4 weeks between rolling rule to heart until 7 weeks ago ive been rolling everyweekend... Have never had a bad comedown, just go from peaking to an afterglow that slowly dimishes by monday night, everytime. However, the first 3 times that magic was deffintly there, the 3 after that I have stilled rolled hard but that special magic feeling wasnt there as much (these pills were very low in mdma and were cut with meth, the 5th time I had meth seperately along with 2 of these low mdma rolls with meth and it blew me away), the 7th time though which was this weekend they were pure mdma rolls and the magic was there. I don't reccomend doing this (rollign every weekend), this weekend was the first time I noticed brain zaps which was while comming up - they didnt hurt they felt alright but I knew what they were, like little pulses of electrical zaps floating around my head but they lasted 5 minutes at most. I do believe strongly in antioxidant use - vit e and C which I have been usin since my 2nd roll onwards and will continue to do so.

So yes I can deffintly feel the magic is SLOWLY dissapearing due to weekly use which I am now stopping and will only roll with minimum 4 weeks in between for obvious reasons.

 

[mark881]

Rolled 2 week break, the 3 week break then 3.5 week break - totally lost the magic. Need 60 days off.

 

[5000m]

Haven't touched it for 10 weeks huzzah

 

[ebola?]

I don't know full list of serotonergic drugs tbh and i had read through it before i posted this up, as requested by Jesus Green.

The problem is that you list drugs that are not serotonergic as serotonergic.

 

[northskyfla]

Never lost the magic just have a hard time finding legit stuff. How I miss the 90s.

 

[naughtynicknails]

(Haven't voted in poll)

I've definitely lost the magic. I used to take pretty high doses most friday AND saturday nights for about 2 years.. well.. it was either MDMA or amphetamine.. mostly MDMA though..

I've taken long long breaks (months to yearsish) from MDMA and, I'm sorry but, it hasn't come back. I enjoy it alot more than i did immediately post abuse but i'd still rather take pretty much anything else (MDMA used to be my favourite drug.. i still love it.. i just don't enjoy it)..