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mj1945

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It's been a little over a year since I've started following the harm reduction rules which are waiting atleast a month (always longer though), not redosing, testing, and not dosing too high. There's a rave here on Friday and I'd like to dome some adderall but have looked absolutely everywhere and can't seem to find any. I know some people have trouble finding mdma, while for me mdma seems to be the only thing I can get anytime. So since I can't find any adderall I'm planning on rolling, on Friday it will be 18 days since my last roll.

Just wondering here how many times you've broken the 'guidelines' since you've started following them and for what reasons you did etc.
 
Pretty much every time
I usually redose once, though at festivals I can redose numerous times.
I hardly wait a month between use, never test (although I am ordering a couple testing reagents, and like dosing fairly high, but never out of my personal boundaries; I know my body.
 
Well to be honest I've always been aware of the dangers and never followed the "rules". I normally use about .35-.5 every time I roll, which is initial dose + 1-2 redoses, and roll usually about twice a month, sometimes less. And like I said, aware of the risks and happy to shoulder those risks

Edit - I do test every batch of gear I plan on eating though and weigh my own doses rather than just buying pre-filled caps or pills. I'm very confident that taking it more often and in higher amounts than recommended but knowing your gear is more effective harm reduction than waiting the 'right' amount of time and refraining from redosing but not testing your gear and not dosing it yourself (ie, pills)
 
I have not broken the guidelines since I learned of them. The times I have been irresponsible with it were the times when I was being stupid and doing dumb things. I learned the hard way which led me to bluelight which then lead me to the guidelines, but by then I had already learned my lesson and have been much better and more responsible. I think you will be ok doing it as long as you know what the possible consequences will be as far as any hangover effects, gL and be responsible!
 
When I first started using MDMA about 10 years ago, my average was once or twice a month with 1-2 pills each session. After that, I had a lull for a few years where I only used it a few times a year. Now, most recently, in the past year or so, I'm up to 2-3 times per month with around 150-250mg doses of very pure stuff. Haven't really ever had an adverse effect that lasted for more than 2 days after use. Often, I feel just fine the very next day, but sometimes I'll feel lethargic and a little mopey the day after. Always gone within a day or two though.

I think "the rules" as they are listed here are excellent guidelines to start with, because everyone's body is different and you can't know how things will effect you until you've tried them. But I also would not consider them to be written in stone or to be the same for every person.
 
Back when I first started there were no real rules so to speak. I still did it only during special events though because it was so "magical", for lack of a better word. I still do it only a few times a year...but nowadays good inexpensive testing kits are now readily available as well.
 
Personally, never. I put 2-6 months between rolls, always test, always take 125 mg, never redose. And I'm on top of the world, every time. ;)
 
Before I found this website... well let just say I broke every "guideline"...

After however I've only broken the 1 month rule once way back last august, I am however going to be rolling this saturday after only being 24 days since my last roll... so twice I guess...

As for testing sadly I ran out of testing kits from EZTest and am to sketched out to order them again to my parents house so right now I'm just finishing up my stash then I'm gonna have to buy without a kit...

I haven't had multiple doses in one night since september but I do plan on redosing on Saturday...

yeah... Sadly not the best person for following ALL the rules.
 
I rarely break the 1 month rule, my dosage is 200mg (not entirely pure MDMA - would guess 70% ) and then redose once 50-60mgs. I am a large person (220lbs) and therefore mostly needs a higher dose than other people.
 
I had broken the rule in the past i had done every month, but after this summer i decided to take a big break perhaps beginning again around december... I also break the dosage rule i mostly redose 2-3 times and about 200-300mg and max was 450mg.

So far it haven't had any bad experiences but i just wanna take a big break for myself so i can focus on other things i guess...
 
all the time.

my rule is once every two weeks, with no more than a gram a night. I know many others who do this too. None of us have ever had anything bad happen but a bit of a shitty comedown.
 
^^^ So we are supposed to assume because you're friends roll every 2 weeks on around a gram per night that it's okay to do these things? I'm sorry but a lot of you are probably in for a real surprise down the road. I hope there is sarcasm/exaggeration in your statement
 
A gram in one night, every 2 weeks 8o I went too far at times too, but that's a bit extreme... Sooner or later that usage pattern is going to catch up to you man...
On-topic: Once every year, at the same festival. I always say in advance "this year I'm only going to drop 1 night and only 1 redose" and every year I go waaaaaaaaaaay too far there =D
 
Northern LIGHTS said:
^^^ So we are supposed to assume because you're friends roll every 2 weeks on around a gram per night that it's okay to do these things? I'm sorry but a lot of you are probably in for a real surprise down the road. I hope there is sarcasm/exaggeration in your statement
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Yeah for me I started noticing the really bad side effects once I stopped and then I was like wtf did I do to myself. That kind of use will catch up to you sooner or later, I don't care who you are if your taking around a gram in a night your product is shit.
 
Every festival.
Probably only roll 3-4 times a year still though, winter/spring tends to be pretty uneventful
 
Northern LIGHTS said:
^^^ So we are supposed to assume because you're friends roll every 2 weeks on around a gram per night that it's okay to do these things? I'm sorry but a lot of you are probably in for a real surprise down the road. I hope there is sarcasm/exaggeration in your statement
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I live in the UK mate, most people here laugh at the American mentality to MDMA, and most people are totally fine doing liberal amounts. I think Americans really really over exaggerate the neurotoxcity of MDMA, and that exaggeration causes people to panic and think they've got all these problems. All this 'harm reduction' causes paranoia which creates more harm than the drug itself.

But no exaggeration, honestly go over to EAAD, where a lot of people do similar amounts to me, and I bet you'll be hard pushed to find anyone with any of these long lasting problems you yanks seem to go on about.
 
^ one major thing to realize is a lot of Americans are throwing random chemicals down their throat while in Europe good quality gear is much easier to come across. Obviously piperazines and such are going to be more detrimental than MDMA




one great quote from the Pirates of the Caribbean fits here though..

"The Pirate's Handbook is not a set a rules, more like guidelines"

so, follow the rules.. only until it makes more sense to break them. Just be responsible, is the main thing.
 
I abused the crap out of MDMA/Mephedrone so personally I have only one rule. No more. Have broken it once in 4 years...
 
hexagram said:
I live in the UK mate, most people here laugh at the American mentality to MDMA, and most people are totally fine doing liberal amounts. I think Americans really really over exaggerate the neurotoxcity of MDMA, and that exaggeration causes people to panic and think they've got all these problems. All this 'harm reduction' causes paranoia which creates more harm than the drug itself.

But no exaggeration, honestly go over to EAAD, where a lot of people do similar amounts to me, and I bet you'll be hard pushed to find anyone with any of these long lasting problems you yanks seem to go on about.
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Makes sense now. You motherfuckers in the UK go HARD. My problem was I broke the consecutive day rule 1 too many times. While on some bunk acid.
 
I broke the "rules" once. I did MDMA after a short 2 week break. It had been my third time doing MDMA and I felt completely fine after, but I'll probably never in my life do that again.
 
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