How often can you use RC's

[jwrhodes89]

In the past week I've used 2c-e & 4-aco-dmt along with some good X. How often would you people suggest is too much when using RC's?

 

[Eva~Love]

an rc stands for a research chemical, and that means they are still studying the drug, hence the word research. so you may have to wait for more studies to come out before you know for certain.

 

[jwrhodes89]

Yea I understand its a research chemical, just trying to figure out if peoples had bad experiences using them close together. Thanks for your input.

 

[amapola]

You seem to be asking about the hallucinogenic and entactogen amphetamines and such so I'm going to swing this over to PD for you.

OD >>> PD

 

[clubberdude]

Difficult to say, but as they are (the psychedelics anyway) serotonergic in action, you wouldn't want to use them more than once a week tops. I feel that the 2C family of compounds are probably relatively forgiving with repeated use (there doesn't seem to be much in the way of more than the idiosyncratic report of people being screwed up with high and/or repeated doses), but it pays to be sensible. Besides, tolerance would build rapidly.

The DOx's are probably somewhat less forgiving, and repeated use may well end up doing a number on you potentially. There again, maybe not, but there really is a lack of experimental data out there.

Tryptamines, not sure about. By and large, they are generally physically non-toxic, and at worst only mildly neurotoxic, but because of the nature of the experiences, could screw about with perception if used to heavily (though tolerance would probably put some control on that).

The serotonin receptors require time to regenerate serotonin, I don't know how long this typically takes, but will probably be in the order of a week or two before reserves are back to normal.

 

[Acidtek]

That's some good advice clubberdude! It's a difficult question really and no one can say for sure, if you think you are doing it too often you probably are

 

[jwrhodes89]

Thanks for the advice clubberdude.

I've used these products 3 times within 6 days. Your probably right that might be too much in a small span. Tolerance is the last thing I want but it doesn't look like I'm in that direction :/

 

[Addam]

I second clubberdude's take on this.
I take a week off bare minimum, but try to use less often that that. There was a period where I was excited to try several different compounds and ended up experimenting once a week, but now that I have them under my belt it's far less often than that.

 

[jwrhodes89]

I second clubberdude's take on this.
I take a week off bare minimum, but try to use less often that that. There was a period where I was excited to try several different compounds and ended up experimenting once a week, but now that I have them under my belt it's far less often than that.

I've just recently been experimenting with stuff other than weed and yes the excitement of trying new things has gripped me and I do want to try more, I just need to try not to do it so often.

 

[allium]

OP, even if you limit all research chemicals to "legal drugs that you can buy online", there are still several classes of compounds: stimulants, empathogens, psychedelics, dissociatives, cannabinoids. And from tens to hundreds, from hundreds to thousands of compounds in each class. They have different mechanism of action, different safety profiles, so your question "How often can you use RCs" sounds very strange.
In other words, you can't generilize two specific psychedelics to all RCs.

Psychedelics(in "strict meaning" of this word, i.e. 5-HT2a agonists) aren't neurotoxic, with the exception of very obscure chemicals like pyr-T, and its derivatives(especially 5-MeO). Still psychedelics can induce/promote some long-term effects - HPPD, various dissociative disorders, sometimes depression, etc. Should you worry about these effects? If you don't abuse them for long periods of time, then probably not.

Just listen to your mind and body!

IMO, 3 times within 6 days isn't really much, although doing psychedelics every 2 days for a month isn't healthy idea.

 

[amapola]

I've just recently been experimenting with stuff other than weed and yes the excitement of trying new things has gripped me and I do want to try more, I just need to try not to do it so often.

If you treat it as a special occasion you can get more out of each trip and not burn out as well. I'm sorry special occasion was extremely poor wording for what I meant. More like picking a date in advance and setting up an environment to trip in. Meditating for some time each day leading up to the trip to ready your mind with where you want to go and what parts of your psyche you want to explore. You can also take vitamins and supplements to preload for your experience as well as different stacks to help the healing process afterwords. In other words let the trips integrate into your entire life experience. People are so eager to trip as often as they can every weekend but forget that every night as you fall asleep you have some of the best psychedelic trips possible which manifest as dreams.

p.s. I don't actually practice any of that but know those who do and a lot of people enjoy it

 

[Roger&Me]

If you have to ask randos on an internet forum whether or not you're using too many drugs, the answer is most definitely yes.

 

[jwrhodes89]

If you have to ask randos on an internet forum whether or not you're using too many drugs, the answer is most definitely yes.

well like i said in previous posts i've only been around anything more than weed the past few months trying an opiates in october twice, heroin twice in may, and then the 2c-e, 4-aco-dmt, & molly the past week.

 

[JBrandon]

Roger&Me, you are almost always my favorite poster in every thread you reply to.

To the OP - due to extenuating circumstances, I made the irresponsible decision to use a different chemical every weekend for about 2 months. I was absolutely fine with 4-AcO and the 2Cs (moderate to small doses). The DOC took more out of me. However, methylone destroyed me. It isn't as simple of an issue as "how often can I take an RC" - as others have said, RC is an extremely broad term. Your choice of compound is paramount.

I would say the 4-substituted trypts are a-ok for frequent use, then the 2Cs, then the DOx, and at the bottom of the scale are the cathinones, which I really don't think you should ever do less than a month apart minimum.

 

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

Man I really don't understand the deal with these RC's. Has LSD not opened enough doors for you people? It changed me so much that I don't even need to trip or be high on anything anymore and I'm still experiencing so much constant personal growth. Sounds like a whole lot of unnecessary risk - why not stick with the tried and tested?

Is it really worth it at all when all that is required is to inspect your own mind? Seems like a really easy way of fucking up a brain, using these things at all. You're playing with fire in the first place when it comes to psychedelics; using any amount of RC's is too much.

But who knows, maybe it's helping you attain enlightenment. Personally, I think I'll stay away.

 

[allium]

^ I'm wondering, why do you believe that LSD is safer than all these dangerous research chemicals?

 

[Chemical Wizard]

^ maybe because LSD hasn't killed people like 2C-T-7 or 2C-E or bromo-dfly or whatever the hell it was that killed people. LSD, while it may make you go crazy, is a pretty safe bet compared to the RC market. even though some of the DOx have contaminated the LSD market to some degree....annnnyways.....

But as to how often can you use RC's.....this quesetiosn can relaly only be answered by you, and you have to be able to be totally honest with yourself: why are you usign these chemicals ? Why are you using them so often ? Do you have an intention when you take them or do you simply want to get high ? If so, is getting high really inherently bad ??? If you cannot answer these questions for yourself, then I very much suggest that you take some time to reflect on them before you further indulge in too many more psychedelic journeys...

Tripping is awesome, but you can't stay in outer space forever....

 

[boiledfruit]

but as to how often can you use rc's.....this quesetiosn can relaly only be answered by you, and you have to be able to be totally honest with yourself: Why are you usign these chemicals ? Why are you using them so often ? Do you have an intention when you take them or do you simply want to get high ? If so, is getting high really inherently bad ??? If you cannot answer these questions for yourself, then i very much suggest that you take some time to reflect on them before you further indulge in too many more psychedelic journeys...

Tripping is awesome, but you can't stay in outer space forever....

boooom!

 

[allium]

maybe because LSD hasn't killed people like 2C-T-7 or 2C-E or bromo-dfly or whatever the hell it was that killed people

How about 4-AcO-DMT which gets converted to psilocin in your body, and psilocin in its turn has long record of spiritual use.

Also, this was a question to the one specific poster, not to everybody here. I realize that there are risks associated with the use of research chemicals, but saying "LSD is safe, RCs are dangerous and playing with fire.

And although Bromo-DragonFLY is probably the least safe psychedelic, it killed people only because they OD on it. I doubt that taking 20 mg of LSD is perfectly safe.

 

[HofmannBlotter]

maybe because LSD hasn't killed people like 2C-T-7 or 2C-E or bromo-dfly or whatever the hell it was that killed people. LSD, while it may make you go crazy, is a pretty safe bet compared to the RC market. even though some of the DOx have contaminated the LSD market to some degree....annnnyways.....

Sorry but 2C-E never killed anyone, it was a mislabelled batch of Bromo-DragonFLY. No ?

Psychedelics(in "strict meaning" of this word, i.e. 5-HT2a agonists) aren't neurotoxic, with the exception of very obscure chemicals like pyr-T, and its derivatives(especially 5-MeO)

Hey bro, could you explain more about the 5-meO neurotoxicity ? I always think they were safe, at least 5-meO-MIPT & 5-meO-AMT feel very clean both body & mind ? Do you have any thoughts about it, it would be appreciated ?

Thank you!